John Caryll
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John Caryll (abt. 1554 - 1613)

Sir John "of Warnham" Caryll
Born about in Sussex, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Husband of — married about 1582 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 59 in Warnham, Sussex, Englandmap
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Biography

Sussex (historic flag, adopted 2011)
John Caryll was born in Sussex, England.

Sir John Carill of Warnham was born on or about the 19th of March 1554 in Sussex (see research notes)[1]. He was the only son of Thomas Caryll and Dorothy Buckenham. [2] As most senior member of the Carill (including variants) family, he inherited the right to bear the arms of Carill undifferenced:

Coat of Arms of Sir John Carill

Argent, three bars sable, in chief three martlets of the same.

These arms appear on his tomb in St Margaret's Church in Warnham.

Marriage and Children

John married Mary Cotton, the daughter of a knight and granddaughter to a councilman of His Majesty King Edward VI and they had several children, only three of which survived to adulthood.

  • Sir John Carill "of Harting" [3]
  • Mary Carell born on the 6th and buried the 16th of February 1579/80 [3]
  • George Carell buried the 13th of April 1583 [3]
  • an uncertain child born on the 27th of August 1583 [3]
  • Thomas Carell buried the 9th of June 1586[3]
  • Harry Carell born the 29th of August 1587 buried the 6th of May 1588[3]
  • Jeanne Carell born the 20th of June 1589[3]
  • Elizabeth Carrill, married Sir John Morely, and inherited sizeable property from her uncle Edward Carill. [4]

Middle Aged Life

He inherited, owned, or was involved with several named properties including.

  • Manor of Meston.[5]
  • Anmering House
  • Manor of Chiltey (aka Liphook).[5]
  • Manor of Swanborough in Ilford.[5]
  • Manor of Seaford.[5]
  • Manor of Houghton.[5]
  • Manor of Bromehall.[5]
  • Manor of Ixworth, previously the Ixworth Abbey, which was sold to the Carill with the disollution of monasteries.[5]
  • Manor of Shortsfield.[5]
  • Manor of Poling, rented in a 1,000 year lease to Sir Edward Caryll.
  • A messuage called "The Theale" and an accompanying "Myll Farm" in Rudgwick.
  • A messuage called "Alwins" alias "Allens" in West Grinstead.

Sir John was very active in the area, especially in the trade of land. On the 15th of June 1587 he sold some of his inherited property in Horsham.Tenement and garden in Horsham, in occ. of Thomas Parson, abutting W. and N. on lands of Henry Wickins, E. on lands of Edward Booker, S. on King's highway from Horsham market-place to Slaugham. Appointment of Francis Hobbes, gent., and James Allyn, notary public, as attorneys to deliver seisin. Witnesses to sealing: Gilbert Dentets, Robert Hames, Robert Hudderast, Daniel Studel; to seisin: Thomas Pennycodde, Edward Stephens Gilbert Dentets. [6] This land, based on the court books above, was possibly the Manor of Shortsfield.

He developed a relationship with higher officials through his cultural and political stations, more than once recieving lands taken by confiscation. He recieved parts of an estate taken from William Shelley Esq, found guilty of high treason. [7]

These are only a small selection of the large number of properties he owned, rented, or otherwise controlled.

Knighthood and the Royal Progress of 1591

Sir John participated in the Royal Progress of 1591 when Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth I stayed at Cowdray House, the home of Lord Montague. This was an amazing six-day affair with actors, music, and a table over 70 feet long to serve a meal of 3 oxen and 140 geese. The Queen stayed from the night of the 15th of August to the morning of the 21st. When going to depart, she saw six men awaiting to accompany her and her progress to Chichester. She ordered these men, Sir John among them, to be made Knight Bachelor for their service to her. They were dubbed by the Lord Admiral Charles Howard. [8] [9]

Sir John also had the honor of hosting Queen Elizabeth later on her progress, having her at his home for dinner on the 26th of August in that year. [1]

Later Life

High Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex 1588, in which year he contributed £100 in defence of his country against the Armada NEEDS CITATION

In 1604 he was involved in a £1,000 debt owed to Peter Vanlore owed by His Majesty King James I. [10].

At some point in his later years Sir John and his family were found to be recusants. As part of the punishment in 1612 King James I approved a Letter Grant, siezing land from Sir John and giving it to be maintined by Philip Herbert, the Earl of Montgomery.

Death and Burial

Below is a transcription of his tomb. The latin has been corrected for spelling, punctuation, and overall clarity. Following this is an english translation, and does not exist on the original stone.

Deo Optimo Maximus [Sanctus]
Nobilis et pius vir Don Joannes Carrill eques auratus Thome Carill de Warnham armigeri filius natu maximus una cum dulcissima et pientissima. Sua coniuge Dna Maria filia Georgii Cotton de Warblington armigeri Neptis honoratissimi viri Don Richi Cotton Equitis aurati. Contrarotulatoris hospitii et a sacris consiliis summi regis Edwardi Sexti hic desideratissimum gloriosissimi salvatoris reditum expectat. Obit die 5 Julii ano domini 1613. Aetatis sue anno 59. Bennit filios et filias.
Ioannes Carill eques auratus eorum filius primogentius hoc MON: parentibus opti mestus posuit.
God the Most Good, Most Great, and Most Holy
The noble and pius man Sir John Carrill knight bachelor son of Thomas Charill of Warnham (an armiger) with the most sweetest and penitent his wife Lady Mary daughter of George Cotton of Warblington (an armiger) and granddaughter of the honorable man Sir Richard Cotton knight bachelor [UNCERTAIN] and counselor to Edward the Sixth. Here he [John Carrill] lies waiting for the long-awaited return of the Most Glorious Saviour. He died on the 5th of July 1613, aged 59, beloved by his sons and daughters.
Ioannes Carill eques auratus eorum filius primogentius hoc MON: parentibus opti mestus posuit.

Sir John did not leave a will, but it is likely that what remained of his estate after recusancy confiscations was given to his only living son Sir John Carill of Harting on the 10th of November 1613. [11]


Research Notes

John's date of birth is not exactly known. His current date of birth was extrapolated from an exact age given in the inquisition post-mortem of his grandfather's estate (9 years, 1 month, and 11 days.) This information was transcribed by FamilySearch user ARCSology on the 4th of August 2023. View their citation here. An abstract can also be viewed on the Internet archive. [1]

I intend to start a discussion on creating categories for different royal progresses, and I am leaving this section here as a reminder that this profile should be included in Category:RoyalProgress1591 if the category is created. Heermans-56 18:09, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I have conducted preliminary searches of AALT, but no relevant records have been indexed as of yet. I encourage anyone interested in this profile to double-check my work with AALT in case more has been indexed since I worked with this profile. Heermans-56 18:09, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Notes on Inquisition Post Mortem: Great Britain Court of Chancery; Attree, Frederick William Town, 1853-, Notes of post mortem inquisitions taken in Sussex. 1 Henry VII, to 1649 and after. Abstracted and translated by F.W.T. Attree
    London Mitchell, Hughes and Clarke, printers c1912; 1912; page: 46
    Internet Archive (accessed 4 December 2023)
  2. County Genealogies: William Berry, County Genealogies: Pedigrees of the Families in the County of Sussex
    United Kingdom: Sherwood, Gilbert and Piper, printed by W. Marchant, 1830, page 359
    Google Books (accessed 3 December 2023)
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 Sussex Archaeological Collections: Sussex Archaeological Society, Sussex Archaeological Collections Relating to the History and Antiquities of the County: Volume 33
    United Kingdom: Sussex Archaeological Society., 1883, page 177
    Google Books (accessed 6 December 2023)
  4. Elizabeth's Inheritance West Sussex Record Office. Catalogue Number: Goodwood Mss E304 Collection Number: Goodwood/1/2/9/E304.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.7 West Sussex Record Office. Catalogue Number: Add Mss 524 Hierarchy Number: Acc472/1/524
  6. 1587 Land Conveyance: West Sussex Record Office. Catalogue Number: Wiston Mss 1358. Hierarchy Number: Wiston/1/1/27/1/1358.
  7. 1604 Land Conveyance: West Sussex Record Office. Catalogue Number: SAS-BA/467 Collection Number: SAS-BA/6/5/467
  8. Shaw's Knights: Shaw, William Arthur, 1865-1943; Burtchaell, George Dames, 1853-1921, The Knights of England. A complete record from the earliest time to the present day of the knights of all the orders of chivalry in England, Scotland, and Ireland, and of knights bachelors, incorporating a complete list of knights bachelors dubbed in Ireland
    London Sherratt and Hughes; 1906; page: (98 of 692)
    Internet Archive (accessed 5 December 2023)
  9. Cowdray: Roundell, Mrs. Charles, Cowdraw : the History of a Great English House
    Bickers & Son, Liecester Square; 1884, page: (38)
    Hathi Trust(accessed 5 December 2023)
  10. 1604 King's Debt: Great Britain. Public Record Office, Calendar of State Papers, Domestic Series, of the Reign of James I: 1603-1610
    United Kingdom: Longman, Brown, Green, Longmans and Roberts, 1857, page 146
    Google Books (accessed 9 December 2023)
  11. Estate 1613: Sussex Archaeological Society, Sussex Archaeological Collections Relating to the History and Antiquities of the County: Volume 33
    United Kingdom: Sussex Archaeological Society., 1883, page 176
    Google Books (accessed 9 December 2023)

See Also

A good resource to learn about one of their properties, St Leonard House: Landed Families of Britain Blog.





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Carryl-4 and Caryll-5 appear to represent the same person
posted by Ann Browning
edited by Ann Browning
Caryll-2 and Carryl-4 do not represent the same person because: Sorry should be Caryll-5
posted on Carryl-4 (merged) by Ann Browning
Caryll-2 and Carryl-4 appear to represent the same person because: The same person. Caryll is the most commonly used surname
posted on Carryl-4 (merged) by Ann Browning
This John Carryl was originally incorectly linked as father to Jane Browne Englefield (Browne-10727) a daughter of Anthony Browne.

He may be some relation to Carryl-2 Sir John Carryl of Harting.

posted on Carryl-4 (merged) by Helen (Coleman) Ford

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