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Neville

Summary of Complete Peerage, 2nd edn (Gibbs, Doubleday et al), Vol. 9 (1936), Neville, pp 475+ (PDF p 483)

Abergavenny, sometimes Bergavenny, p 475

Birling, Viscount, junior title of Earls of Abergavenny, p 475

Neville of Scotton (never summoned), p 476

  • Ralph [not called Neville], of Scotton, Lincs, 1086, [1] apparently succ. by
    • Ralph, abt 1114, succ. by
      • Ralph, m Hawise de Percy
        • Geoffrey, son+heir, abt 1175
        • Ralph, prob. bro+heir, 1189, 1201, apparently succ. by
          • Sir Robert, 1212, 1218
            • Ralph, under age 1226, d by 1230
          • Sir Ralph, guardian and heir of his nephew Ralph, apparently succ. by
            • Sir Philip, 1240, apparently succ. by
              • Sir Robert, 1274, 1294

Neville of Essex, p 478

Commonly derived from Ralph of Scotton (1086), though there seems to be no evidence.

  • Geoffrey de Neville of Walcot, Lincs, prob. father of
    • Gilbert
    • Alan, bro of Gilbert, judge, 1138, d 1177-78
      • Thomas
      • Ives
      • Ralph, ygr son, pres. m a da.+h of Bertram Rafin
        •  ?Roger, surmised to be Hugh's son, but CP thinks brother
        • 1 Hugh, of Gt Hallingbury, Forester, "Illustrious Man" (Magna Carta), 1190, d 1234, m1 Joan de Cornhill, m2 (2h/3) Beatrice de Turnham
          • John, d 1246, m Hawise de Courtenay
            • Hugh, minor 1246, of age by 1256, dsp 1269, m Beatrice de Brewes
            • John, bro+heir, m?2 Margaret
              • Hugh, b 1276, 1st Baron (cr 1311), d 1335, m1 Eleanor de Weyland, m2 (2h) Ida FitzWalter
                • John, 2nd Baron, b bef 1299, dspm 1358, m1 his stepsister Margaret de La Ward, annulled, m2 Alice
                • Hugh, 1334, 1356, d by 1357
                  • John, became a monk 1357
                • Edmund, 1334, cleric
                •  ?prob, a daughter, m John Semer (St Maur, Seymour)
                  • William Semer, heir of the 2nd Baron

Neville (of Fauconberge), p 487

Neville (of Hallamshire) (Furnivalle), p 487

Neville (of Hornby), p 487

"By tradition" a cadet branch of Raby

  • Geoffrey de Neville, m by 1267 Margaret de Lungvillers, d abt 1319
    • John, b 1269, dvm by 1309, m Pernel
      • John, dsp 1335
    • Robert, ?1296, ?1303, d by 1335 [2]
      • Sir Robert, heir of his cousin John, d aft 1373, m1 Joan de Atherton, m2 Elizabeth de St Laurence
        • Sir Robert, MP, of age by 1344, d 1413 [age 90], m Margaret de la Pole
          • Thomas, dvp bef 1387
            • Margaret, b abt 1384, prob. d by 1424, m Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter
          • Margaret, m William de Harrington, of Farleton
            • ... Harringtons of Hornby
          • Joan, co-heiress of her niece, m Langton
            • ...

Mentions this family, which 3 Nevilles married into junior branches of (p 487 footnote c, d, also chart pedigree notes, p vii footnote f)[3]

  • Adam fitz Swain, [of Mirfield etc], d 1159, son of Swain, son of Ailric (1086) [4]
    • 1 Amabel, [heiress of Mirfield and Cawthorne], m2 William de Neville
      • [Sara de Neville, heiress of Cawthorne, m Thomas de Burgh, of Burrough Green]
        • ...
    • 2 Maud, [heiress of Brierley], =A Adam de Montbegon, d 1189, =B John Malherbe
      • B1 Mabel Malherbe, said to be elder da and coheir, m William de la Mare
        • Mabel de la Mare, d by 1253, = Geoffrey de Neville, d 1249
          • Sir Hugh de Neville, of Appleby, Laceby, Cadney, Thornholme, Denby, etc, sold most of it, d bef 1275 = Margaret Furnival, d aft 1289
            • Geoffrey
              • Philip, dsp at Thornholm 1345
      • B2 Clemency Malherbe, [heiress of Brierley], m Eudes de Lungvillers

[3]

Neville of Raby, p ???

  • Gilbert, of Walcot and Yawthorpe, Lincs (1086), abt 1115-8 [5]
    • Geoffrey de Neville, bef 1146
      • Gilbert, abt 1142, 1166, d by 1169
        • William, Walter, witnessed their father's grant
        • 1 Geoffrey, b by 1140, 1184, d by 1193, m Emma, d by 1208, da of Bertram de Bulmer
          • Henry, of age by abt 1198, dsp 1227, m Alice, d aft 1231
          • Isabel, sister+heiress, 1227, d by 1254, m1 Robert fitz Maldred of Raby, 1195, d 1242-48 [6]; she m2 by 1248 Gilbert de Brakenberg
            • Geoffrey (FitzRobert FitzMaldred) de Neville, d bef 1242, [7]
              • 1 Sir Robert, d 1282 - continued below
              • 2 Geoffrey, 1251 - presumably identical with Geoffrey de Neville of Hornby above
  • Sir Robert, succ. fa by 1242, d 1282, m2 by 1273 Ida, d aft 1315
    • Robert, dvp 1271, m Mary, d 1320, da and coheir of Ralph FitzRandolph
      • Ranulph, 1st Baron, b 1262, d 1331, m1 Eupheme, da of Robert FitzRoger, m2 Margery de Thweng
        • A1 Robert, the Peacock of the North, dspvp 1319 (murdered in revenge), m Ellen
        • A2 Ralph, b by 1291, d 1367, m 1327 Alice de Audley, d 1374
          • [Margaret, m Henry de Percy]
          • [2 Ralph, m Elizabeth de Leeds]
            • ... Nevilles of Thornton Bridge
          • 1 John, 1346, d 1388 =A Maud de Percy, =B (1h/2) Elizabeth Latimer, d 1395
            • A Ralph, 4th Baron, 1st Earl, see below
            • B ...
  • Ralph, 4th Baron, 1st Earl, =A Margaret Stafford, =B Joan Beaufort
    • A1 John, dvp 1420 = Elizabeth Holland
      • 1 Ralph, 5th Baron, 2nd Earl = Elizabeth Percy
        • John, dspvp = (1h/3) Anne Holland (his 2nd cousin) [8]
      • 2 Sir John, b abt 1410, cr Lord Neville 1459, d 1461 = by 1454 (2h/3) Anne Holland (his 1st cousin 1x removed, and his nephew's widow), d 1486
        • Ralph, 6th Baron, 2nd Baron, 3rd Earl = Isabel Booth
          • ... (6th Earl attainted 1571)
    • A2 Ralph = his stepsister Mary Ferrers
      • John = Elizabeth Newmarch
        • Jane =A Sir William Gascoigne XI, =B Sir James Harrington
          • A1 ... Wentworths, Earls of Strafford
    • B1 Richard = Montagu, Countess of Salisbury
      • Richard = Anne Beauchamp, Countess of Warwick
    • George = Latimer
    • Edward = Bergavenny

Neville peerages in other volumes:

Fauconberge:
Furnivalle:
Westmorland: Vol. 12 pt 2, p
Salisbury: Vol. 11, p
Warwick: Vol. 12 pt 2, p
Latimer: Vol. 8, p
Abergavenny: Vol. 1, p



PEDIGREE OF NEVILLE (partly conjectural)

- This is a reformatted version of a chart pedigree in CP 2nd edn Vol. 9 between pp.502-3
- Numbers indicate left-to-right order in the chart but not necessarily birth order
- (+) = positioned to suggest a conjectured parentage, but not actually connected
1 Gilbert (de Neville), 1086, 1115
1.1 (+) Geoffrey de Neville, abt 1145/6
1.1.1 (+) Gilbert de Neville, abt 1169 =
1.1.1.1 Geoffrey de Neville, d abt 1193 = Emma de Bulmer, d abt 1208
1.1.1.1.1 Henry de Neville, d 1227
1.1.1.1.2 Isabel de Neville, = Robert FitzMaldred, d 1242-8
1.1.1.1.2.1 Geoffrey de Neville, d abt 1242 =
1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Robert de Neville, d 1282 =
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Robert de Neville, d 1271, = Mary, d 1320, da of Ralph FitzRandolph
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Randolph de Neville, Lord Neville, of Raby, sum. 1295, d 1331 = Eupheme
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Robert de Neville, d 1319
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 Ralph, 2nd Lord Neville, d 1367, = Alice
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1 John, 3rd Lord Neville, d 1388, =A Maud Percy, =B Elizabeth
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.A1 Ralph, 4th Lord Neville, of Raby, cr Earl of Westmorland 1397, d 1425
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.A1.1 ...
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.B ...
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2 Ralph
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.3 Robert
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2 John
1.1.1.1.2.1.2 (+) Geoffrey de Neville, sum. to Shrewsbury, 1285 = Margaret de Lungvillers, da of John de Lungvillers and his wife
1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1 John de Neville of Hornby =
1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1 John de Neville, dsp 1335
1.1.1.1.2.1.2.2 Geoffrey
1.1.1.1.2.1.2.3 Robert =
1.1.1.1.2.1.2.3.1 Robert de Neville, of Hornby, sum. to a Council, 1342
1.1.1.1.2.1.2.4 Edmund
1.1.1.1.2.1.2.5 William
1.1.1.1.2.1.3 John de Neville, clerk
1.1.1.2 William de Neville
1.1.1.3 Walter de Neville
1.1.2 (+) Alan de Neville, 1178 =
1.1.2.1 Alan de Neville, d 1190
1.1.2.2 Geoffrey de Neville, d 1225/6 =
1.1.2.2.1 John de Neville, d abt 1253 =
1.1.2.2.1.1 Geoffrey de Neville, dsp 1267
1.1.2.2.2 Geoffrey de Neville, d 1249, = Mabel de la Mare, d bef 1253
1.1.2.2.2.1 Hugh de Neville, d bef 1275 =
1.1.2.2.2.1.1 Geoffrey de Neville, 1316 =
1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1 Philip de Neville, dsp 1345
1.1.2.2.3 Alan de Neville
1.1.2.3 Thomas
1.1.2.4 Ives, d  ?1191
1.1.2.5 Ralph de Neville, = 1.2.1.1 ___ Rafin, below
1.1.2.5.1 Hugh de Neville, d 1234, = Joan de Cornhill
1.1.2.5.1.1 John de Neville, d 1246 =
1.1.2.5.1.1.1 Hugh de Neville, dsp 1269
1.1.2.5.1.1.2 John de Neville, d 1282 =
1.1.2.5.1.1.2.1 Hugh de Neville, Lord Neville, of Essex, sum. 1311, d 1335
1.1.2.5.1.2 Herbert
1.1.2.5.1.3 Agnes
1.1.2.5.2 Roger
1.1.2.5.3 Adam
1.1.2.5.4 Thomas
1.1.2.5.5 William
1 Rafin, 1086
1.1 (+) ___ = Simon FitzWilliam
1.1.1 ... a quo KYME
1.2 (+) Gilbert Rafin, flor. temp. Hen. I =
1.2.1 Bertram Rafin =
1.2.1.1 ___ Rafin = 1.1.2.5 Ralph de Neville, above
1.2.2 William Rafin



Thoresby on Neville of Hornby p.200 p.183

https://books.google.com/books?id=gulWAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA200

https://books.google.com/books?id=gulWAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA183


VCH Lancs - page 319, Montbegon

Hornby

Hornby priory


Notts Vis

Ragnall: https://archive.org/stream/visitationscoun03britgoog#page/n77/mode/2up


Maddison

Faldingworth: https://archive.org/stream/lincolnshirepedi02madd#page/663/

Thorney: https://archive.org/stream/lincolnshirepedi02madd#page/669/


From Tudor Place

http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/constituencies/yorkshire

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Neville,_Geoffrey_de_(d.1285)_(DNB00)



Hornby Liversedge Chevet etc

Clay on Neville of Liversedge and Chevet: https://archive.org/stream/dugdalesvisitati2dugd#page/154/

Nevilles of Ragnall and Grove: https://archive.org/stream/visitationscoun03britgoog#page/n77/

-- descended from Nevilles of Rolleston: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/NEVILLE5.htm

Boaz on Harrington: https://books.google.com/books?id=zzjxBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA566

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Harrington_of_Hornby says he was granted Hornby (we thought the Nevilles had it)

Foster says Maud Ryther was d+h of Sir William Ryther, as does Clay, but Hist Parl says d+h of Ralph. (William had no heiresses.)

Arms of Neville of Liversedge (Clay): Argent, a saltire gules

(Reputed ancestors of Sir John Harington-46 of the Closet, somehow)

Nevilles of Liversedge

Nevilles of Chevet etc

see Notts Vis...

  • Sir William Neville-, of South Leverton
    • George N-
      • 1 Sir William N-, of Ragnall
        • 1 George N-, of Ragnall
          • 1 ... Nevilles of Ragnall
      • Robert N-
        • Robert N-, m Alice Bosvile-, of Chevet, d+ch
          • ... Nevilles of Grove (supposedly got Grove with a Hercy heiress)



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Burghs and Boroughs

Better version below

http://www.broughfamily.org/history/Yorkshire_Broughs.html

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/north/vol1/pp313-320

Foster's Yorks Vis

Donham: https://archive.org/stream/visitationscoun03britgoog#page/n173/ (conflates 2 Thomases)

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/cambs/vol6/pp141-147 Burrough Green :-

  • Thomas de Burgh, d 1199
    • Thomas, d 1234
    • Philip
      • Sir Thomas, d 1284
        • Philip, d 1285
          • Thomas de Burgh-250, b abt 1278, MP 1312, d 1322
            • John, d 1329, monk
            • Thomas, d 1334
              • John, b abt 1330, d 1393, ward of John de Verdun
                • A Thomas, d 1412
                • B1 Elizabeth, m Sir John Ingoldsthorpe
                • B2
                • B3 Joan, m William de Harpeden

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/cambs/vol10/pp252-258 Swaffham Bulbeck

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol6/pp197-228 Swaffham

VCH Hackforth says

  • Philip
    • Thomas de Burgh-250, d 1322
      • John, legitimacy questioned
    • Elizabeth, declared heir, m Alexander Mountford

Zouche line https://archive.org/stream/visitationofyork00flow#page/100/ (Dunham ped)



Redbourne

http://penrose.org/getperson.php?personID=I29419&tree=penrose
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/EG_3oUiu2gA
... Vis Lincs mentioned
http://nielsenhayden.com/genealogy-tng/getperson.php?personID=I4306&tree=nh1
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/NEVILLE7.htm#Walter%20De%20NEVILLE1
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10001373
http://johnmwatson.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/the-heirs-of-alexander-de-neville-of.html
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2014-10/1413238053
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2014-10/1413238155
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2014-10/1413238262
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2014-10/1413238366
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2014-10/1413238452
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2014-10/1413238553








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