Category: Questionable Gateway Ancestors

Categories: Magna Carta

Magna Carta Project

The category Questionable Gateway Ancestors has been created as a sub-project of the Magna Carta project. This category is attached to colonial immigrants that appear to have Magna Carta lines on WikiTree that do not appear in the sources below. As these lines are researched we will either update them to Gateway Ancestors or we will remove dubious connections and remove the profiles from this category.

Proving who a 17th century colonial immigrant was in Europe, before he or she emigrated, is a large challenge for genealogists. The best research today only identifies about 250 colonial immigrants with Magna Carta and royal lines. On WikiTree, we have thousands of colonial immigrants that show these illustrious family trees. Nearly all are bogus.

For many of these, they simply do not have any proof to support these illustrious trees. If you are a profile manager or researcher and have one that you know is bogus, please remove the bogus connection. Let us know and we will remove it from the category.

Any questions can go to John Schmeeckle or Joe Cochoit.

As always, we welcome research contributions on these lines. We will be initiating G2G discussions on many of these lines to share information and discuss research.

We will leave a reference to profiles that have had connections removed as a reference for future research.

Gateway Ancestors are the American colonists with Magna Carta ancestry
whose well-documented ancestral lines are treated in
Royal Ancestry: a Study of Colonial & Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson (2013), Volumes 1-5,
and in Magna Carta Ancestry: a Study of Colonial & Medieval Families, also by Douglas Richardson (2011).
Of the twenty-five barons who signed a vow to enforce Magna Carta in 1215, only
seventeen have known descendants past the fourth generation.

RESEARCH NOTES entered Feb. 2, 2018 by John Schmeeckle

Henry Acton-11 at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Acton-11

He seems to be the proper social status for aristocratic ancestry, but a quick internet search didn't come up with any good secondary sources (let alone a baptism record) for his parentage. The marriage of his alleged maternal grandparents is mentioned in the Corbet genealogy, p. 203, athttps://archive.org/stream/familyofcorbetit02corb#page/n69/mode/2up

Michael Bacon-563 at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bacon-563

A quick look through his family tree doesn't show any obvious weak links, and he seems to be from the proper social class to be a prospective gateway ancestor. The alleged lineage goes straight up the Bacon line for several generations.
This lineage also shows up in the ancestry of John Lakin-12 (his mother was a Bacon) at https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Lakin-Family-Tree-12

James Bane at [1]

Conceivable but totally unsourced; I left "intent to detach" messages on both his and his father's profiles. Update Mar. 17: sent message to profile manager -- is there any evidence for this?

Elizabeth (Best) Shaw at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Best-10

There seems to be some legitimate ancestry on her mother's side. Her father's side seems to be idle speculation going up a few generations.

Ursula (Bish/Bysshe) Thompson at http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/bish/376/

There is a rather recent genealogy of the Bysshe family, extending back to medieval times, per http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/bish/376/
Maybe there is a valid Magna Carta ancestry back there somewhere.

Anne (Bluet) Jones at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bluet-16

Definitely the right social class to have many Magna Carta lineages. However, there is a question whether the correct Anne Bluet has been identified as the wife of Cadwallader Jones. See this SGM thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/9qrMRU5tVZ8

Robert Thomas Bolling at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bolling-34

I marked the parents of his father John Bolling "uncertain," per info on the profile.
His mother's parents appear to be a fabrication, but didn't look too closely.

Gov. Robert Brooke at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brooke-97

His Magna Carta connection depends on the ancestry of his mother's ancestor Joan Elmedon. There is a G2G question about that here: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/219366/is-joan-de-elmeden-a-descendant-of-a-magna-charta-baron-
Per a message from Joe Cochoit on that thread, Robert Brooke's descent from Joan Elmedon seems to have been broken.

Nicholas Brown at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brown-45093

Update Mar. 17: There is a source showing that his mother Jane was indeed the daughter of a Thomas Lide/Leids of Inkberrow, co. Worcester. More research needed.

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Mar. 17, 2018:

John Butler at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Butler-1412.

I left an intent-to-detach message on the profile of his maternal grandfather Richard Baker at

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Baker-3575

I also left a "should his parents be detached?" message on the profile of his father Nicholas Butler at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Butler-1870

RESEARCHED PROFILES WITH UPDATES:

Mayflower profiles:
Atwood-7 update royal/MC line removed
Bradford-24 update royal/MC line removed
Brewster-81 update royal/MC line removed
Brewster-4 update royal/MC line removed
Brewster-140 update royal/MC line removed
More-104Status - brother is a Gateway Ancestor
More-105Status - brother is a Gateway Ancestor
More-107 Status - brother is a Gateway Ancestor
More-108 Status - Gateway Ancestor -
Mullins-44 update royal/MC line removed
Mullins-7 update royal/MC line removed
Mullins-5 update royal/MC line removed
White-2062 update royal/MC line removed
White-2164 update royal/MC line removed
Winslow-83 update royal/MC line removed

Puritan Great Migration profiles:
Abbott-1798 update royal/MC line removed
Aldrich-73 update royal/MC line removed (see G2G
Allen-4709 update royal/MC line removed
Allen-14410 update royal/MC line removed
Allen-14411 update royal/MC line removed
Allyn-112 update royal/MC line removed (spouse of known G.A. Wyatt-300)
Almy-6 update royal/MC line removed (spouse of known G.A. Barlowe-1)
Andrew-354 update royal/MC line removed
Arnold-40 update royal/MC line removed
Arnold-422 update royal/MC line removed
Arnold-423 update royal/MC line removed
Arnold-445 update royal/MC line removed
Ayer-35 update royal/MC line removed
Bacon-771 update royal/MC line removed
Baldwin-264 update royal/MC line removed
Baldwin-123 update royal/MC line removed
Barker-244 update royal/MC line removed
Barlow-79 update royal/MC line removed
Barlow-80 update royal/MC line removed
Barney-333 update royal/MC line removed
Bartlett-1867 update royal/MC line removed
Bassett-5 update royal/MC line removed
Bassett-464 update royal/MC line removed
Bates-380update royal/MC line removed
Bates-732update royal/MC line removed
Beall-75update royal/MC line removed
Beeson-32update royal/MC line removed
Benjamin-79 update royal/MC line removed
Benjamin-289 update royal/MC line removed
Benjamin-965 update royal/MC line removed
Benson-620 update royal/MC line removed
Best-11 update royal/MC line removed
Bidwell-86 update royal/MC line removed
Bigelow-24 update royal/MC line removed
Bigelow-46 update royal/MC line removed
Birchard-3 update royal/MC line removed
Blakiston-11 GATEWAY ANCESTOR
Bliss-2 update royal/MC line removed
Blodgett-20 update royal/MC line removed
Blodgett-23 update royal/MC line removed
Blower-9 update royal/MC line removed
Blower-115 update royal/MC line removed
Bolles-5 GATEWAY ANCESTOR
Bourne-1 update royal/MC line removed
Bourne-2 update royal/MC line removed
Bourne-248 update royal/MC line removed
Boynton-9 update royal/MC line removed
Boynton-11 update royal/MC line removed
Boyse-1 update royal/MC line removed
Brackett-1 update royal/MC line removed
Brackett-20 update royal/MC line removed
Brackett-47 update royal/MC line removed
Brackett-109 update royal/MC line removed
Bressey-3 GATEWAY ANCESTOR
Brewster-44 update royal/MC line removed
Briggs-1017 update royal/MC line removed
Brown-1304 update royal/MC line removed
Brown-11685 update royal/MC line removed
Browne-27 update royal/MC line removed
Browne-220 update royal/MC line removed
Bumpas-2 update royal/MC line removed
Cary-78 update royal/MC line removed
Chandler-29 update royal/MC line removed
Chandler-156 update royal/MC line removed
Chandler-169 update royal/MC line removed
Chandler-510 update royal/MC line removed
Churchill-220 update royal/MC line removed
Clapp-5 update royal/MC line removed
Clapp-797 update royal/MC line removed
Clark-4489 update royal/MC line removed
Cole-573 update royal/MC line removed
Converse-35 update royal/MC line removed
Denison-9 update royal/MC line removed
Denison-13 update royal/MC line removed
Doggett-55 update royal/MC line removed
Dungan-12 update royal/MC line removed
Eaton-271 update royal/MC line removed
Eggleston-20 update royal/MC line removed
Eliot-50 update royal/MC line removed
Eliot-79 update royal/MC line removed
Ely-136 update royal/MC line removed
Hulings-28 update royal/MC line removed
Jewett-168 update royal/MC line removed
Jowett-8 update royal/MC line removed
Jowett-11 update royal/MC line removed
Jowett-18 update royal/MC line removed
Jowett-25 update royal/MC line removed
Kimball-138 update royal/MC line removed
Lothrop-3 update royal/MC line removed
Lothrop-2 update royal/MC line removed
Lyman-8 update royal/MC line removed
Manning-279 'update royal/MC line removed
Newberry-18 update royal/MC line removed
Newberry-53 update royal/MC line removed
Palmer-70 update royal/MC line removed
v Parke-9 update royal/MC line removed
Parke-6 update royal/MC line removed
Parke-112 update royal/MC line removed
Partridge-40 update royal/MC line removed
Porter-152 update royal/MC line removed
Scott-217 update royal/MC line removed
Sheldon-80 update royal/MC line removed
Stowe-154 update royal/MC line removed
Whitfield-12 'update royal/MC line removed
Whitfield-881 'update royal/MC line removed
Woodward-407 'update royal/MC line removed


Southern Colonist immigrant profiles:
Aldridge-396 update royal/MC line removed
Aldred-35 update royal/MC line removed
Bacon-2405 update royal/MC line removed
Branch-50 update royal/MC line removed
Bryan-72 update royal/MC line removed
Burton-189 update royal/MC line removed
Burton-2424 update royal/MC line removed
Fleming-26 update royal/MC line removed

Other Questionables:
Brown-2470update royal/MC line removed
French-2001update royal/MC line removed
French-2011update royal/MC line removed
French-801update royal/MC line removed
Jessup-3update royal/MC line removed
Montgomery-146update royal/MC line removed
Seton-1update royal/MC line removed
Lawrence-952's children are royal but not MC; moved to Questionable Gateway Ancestor (G2G discussion)


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