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Mary Elizabeth (Claiborne) Harris (abt. 1630 - 1710)

Mary Elizabeth Harris formerly Claiborne aka Rice
Born about in Charles River Shire, Colony of Virginiamap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married about 1650 in Colony of Virginiamap
Wife of — married after 1650 in Old Rappahannock, Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 80 in Glen Cairn, Doswell, New Kent, Colony of Virginiamap
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Contents

Biography

Disputed Surname

  • There is no primary source that identifies Mary Rice as a Claiborne or the daughter of William Claiborne. She should not be included in a list of his children. The connection is wholly through supposition by use of the Claiborne name in the Rice family.
Note: In a footnote, Dorman says "no record evidence has been found to support" a daughter of William Claiborne who married ___ Rice and Robert Harris. [1]

Name

Mary "Claiborne"[2][3][4][5] [6][7]Born about 1630, King Williams, Virginia[4][5] Died 9 February 1710, Glen Cairn, Doswell, Hanover, Virginia[4] [8]

Marriage

Possibly married twice, 1st to: : Husband: Edward Rice[4]

Marriage Date: 1660/1680 Place: St Peters Parish, Hanover, Virginia[4]

Children

  1. Child:
  2. Child: Thomas Rice[4]
  3. Child: Claiborne Rice[4]

Marriage

2nd Marriage to William Harris: years given 1650/1651/1660, Charles City, or Albemarle, Virginia.[9][10]

Sources

  1. Claiborne, p. 6
  2. Source: #S14 p. 348
  3. Source: #S9 pp. 518-520
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 4.6 "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3MCV-66C : accessed 2015-04-06), entry for Mary /Claiborne/.
  5. 5.0 5.1 Mary Rice Claiborne in the Family Data Collection - Births Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Births [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.
  6. Source: #S1659360159 Book Title: Samuel Moody Grubbs, a descendant of the Boone Family
  7. Source: #S1659453484
  8. Source: #S1659453484
  9. Source: #S1659360159 Book Title: The Kinnears and their kin : a memorial volume of history, biography and genealogy, with Revolution
  10. Source: #S1659360159 Book Title: Samuel Moody Grubbs, a descendant of the Boone Family

Acknowledgments

  • Thanks to Linda Plummer for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Linda and others.
  • WikiTree profile Claibourne-1 created through the import of Shurtliff Family.ged on Jun 20, 2011 by Mark Shurtliff. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Mark and others.
  • WikiTree profile Claiborne-112 created through the import of LHH WIKI.GED on Jun 17, 2011 by Lee Hoffman. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Lee and others.
  • Thank you to Darlene Burton for creating WikiTree profile Claiborne-199 through the import of clay3_2013-07-25.ged on Jul 25, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Darlene and others.
  • First-hand information as remembered by Lynn Wentworth, Tuesday, March 18, 2014.
  • WikiTree profile Claiborne-183 created through the import of The Tuter and Bunch Families_family line_2012-08-23_01.ged on Aug 23, 2012 by Rick Tuter. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Rick and others.
  • WikiTree profile Claiborne-116 created through the import of My Ancerstors.ged on Jul 2, 2011 by Mike Snider. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Mike and others.
  • WikiTree profile Rice-1203 created through the import of My Ancerstors.ged on Jul 2, 2011 by Mike Snider. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Mike and others.
  • WikiTree profile Claiborne-193 created through the import of Davis Family Tree-1.ged on Nov 7, 2012 by Mike Davis. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Mike and others.
  • WikiTree profile Claiborne-193 created through the import of Davis Family Tree-1.ged on Nov 7, 2012 by Mike Davis. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Mike and others.




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I have detached Mary from her previously-shown parents, William Claiborne and Elizabeth Butler. Please see the note at the top of the bio on this profile.
posted by Michael Cayley
Consider reattaching William Claiborne and Elizabeth Butler; numerous genealogies refer to them as her parents.
posted by Eva Munkittrick
I am afraid that, unless reliable sources can be found, these alleged parents should not be attached. It is not uncommon for questionable relationships to appear widely in genealogies on the web. Especially where, as in this instance, the questionable information appears in a place like Marlyn Lewis's Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors, which is not regarded as a reliable source.

The Magna Carta Project, which manages the profile of Elizabeth Butler, has a strict policy on this.

posted by Michael Cayley
Detached Richard Harris again. Please do not attach again.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harris-1869

posted by Maggie N.
What about the Robert HARRIS marriage ?

There is still a RICE child in between the HARRIS children.

Thanks

posted by N Gauthier
Can you please check the research for this profile, because she is having HARRIS children, then some RICE children and then some HARRIS chldren again. So the RICE marriage seems out of place. Thanks
posted by N Gauthier
For a profile to be a project-protected profile (PPP), it needs to be managed by a project. I removed PPP. If you believe it needs protection, please post to G2G for discussion - I have read the profile & comments and do not believe there is enough evidence to leave her attached as a daughter of Claiborne-4 and Boteler-112. Profile text says:
"There is no primary source that identifies Mary Rice as a Claiborne or the daughter of William Claiborne. She should not be included in a list of his children...."

If this profile were to be project-protected, I would suggest that it be protected by the Magna Carta Project, with a "No Trail" project box and after the parents are detached.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
From Geni.com:

Documentation is a lot to ask for in King William Co., where most of the records prior to the Revolution were lost in a courthouse fire in 1885.But sometimes it's possible to narrow the field by elimination, or sharpen the focus by triangulation.

The Mary CLAIBORNE who m. John WHITWORTH would have been b.abt. 1665, since the accepted birthdates for sons are 1687 and 1690.This date allows us to eliminate two candidates:

The Mary CLAIBORNE who m. (1) Robert HARRIS was b.abt. 1630, since she bore her first child in 1652.She later m. (2) Edward RICE, and she had one son by each husband to whom she gave the name "Claiborne," a sure sign of this lineage.This Mary CLAIBORNE can only be the dau. of Hon. William CLAIBORNE 1st and wife Elizabeth BUTLER, who were having their children in the 1630s and 1640s -- there were no other CLAIBORNE families in New Kent or the Pamunkey Neck at this date.THIS MARY IS TO OLD TO BE THE WIFE OF JOHN WHITWORTH.

Another Mary CLAIBORNE was b.abt. 1686, dau. of William CLAIBORNE 2nd and Elizabeth WILKES.This Mary is mentioned in her brother's 1705 will along with her dau. Elizabeth CLAIBORNE, who appears to be illegitimate.However, this same Mary CLAIBORNE is also said to have m. Henry FOX Jr., later the sheriff of King William. THIS MARY CLAIBORNE IS TOO YOUNG TO BE THE WIFE OF JOHN WHITWORTH.

In addition, John WHITWORTH is associated with the westernmost portion of the "grand patent" of William CLAIBORNE 1st, which contained some 12,400 acres on the north side of the Pamunkey in what would become King William.The easternmost portion of this tract, a plantation called "Romancoke," went to son William 2nd (1636-c.1685), the father and grandfather of the two girls above.The middle portion, called "Sweet Hall," went to son Thomas CLAIBORNE 1st (1647-1683); there is no "Mary" in his line prior to 1700.

By deed of gift 10 Nov 1676, William 1st gave the westernmost portion of his land, a plantation called "Cohoke," to his eldest son John CLAIBORNE 1st (c.1625-aft.1676).John 1st (and/or his son John 2nd) had disposed of most of this land prior to the Tithe List of 1704, including two transfers to John WHITWORTH:

  • in 1692, an 89-year lease on "100 acres of the tract know as Cohoke" (RB 1 pp. 414-415)];
  • by deed dated 11 Feb 1703[04/?] 'a tract of land called Cohoke" [acreage not specified, but perhaps the same 100 acres](RB 1 p. 414).

These transactions put John WHITWORTH near Cohoke by 1692, just after the birth of his second child, and makes it far more likely that his wife, the former Mary CLAIBORNE, lived at Cohoke rather than the more remote Romancoke, and that she was in fact the dau. of John CLAIBORNE 1st.

John CLAIBORNE 1st was sent to England for an education and there m. Jane UNKNOWN.Dorman and Smith (1995) give John 1st only three children -- John 2nd, Henry and Jane -- for whom documentation exists in the form of headrights to John WRAY in 1678.However, they allow that John 1st and Janet may have had other children aft. they returned to VA, sometime bef. 1678, including the mysterious "couzin Umie COAKES" in the 1705 will of William CLAIBORNE 3rd -- and perhaps the Mary CLAIBORNE b.abt. 1665 who m. John WHITWORTH.

posted by Jim Browne
According to a Butler/Claiborne researcher: Mary Elizabeth is not a daughter. They only had one Daughter, Jane. 4 Sons: Wiliam, Thomas, John and Leonard!
posted by Nancy (Stevens) Page
detached as wife of Harris-1869 (see comments on his profile)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Claiborne-3 and Claibourne-1 appear to represent the same person because: These profiles should be merged with the spelling changed to Claiborne.
posted by Linda Plummer
I have the husbands fixed, and I worked on the children, but am waiting on others for merges. I will work on siblings tomorrow. They are a mess!
posted by Linda Plummer
Please fix the husbands on this profile. They all have different dates of birth and parents.
posted by [Living McQueen]
Claiborne-199 and Claiborne-3 appear to represent the same person because: Same parents.
posted by Linda Plummer
I have a photograph that I took in the Old Courthouse Museum, Vicksburg, Mississippi, of display information about oil paintings from the 1840s of Mary A.E. Rice Harris and her husband Robert P. Harris. Do you have them in your line? I can post the picture to a profile if one exists, or e-mail it to you if you send me your e-mail (via private message from my profile page). The display info is genealogical in nature (e.g., "daughter of John B. Rice..."). Cheers, Liz
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi Linda - I'm going to be working on William Harris Jr. (Harris-886) in about an hour (disconnecting Mary Claiborne as his mother and reattaching him to his real mom)... in case you wanted to copy anything on his page. I plan to start in about an hour (3 pm Eastern U.S. time). Cheers, Liz
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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