Margaret (Cleeve) Anderson

Margaret Louisa (Cleeve) Anderson (abt. 1832 - 1906)

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Margaret Louisa Anderson [uncertain] formerly Cleeve aka Lord
Born about in Sutton Forest, New South Wales, Australiamap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 27 Jun 1850 (to about 1865) in Berrima, Bong Bong, Sutton Forest, New South Wales, Australiamap
Wife of — married about 1866 in New South Wales, Australiamap
Descendants descendants
Died in Lincoln, New South Wales, Australiamap
Profile last modified 22 Jan 2020 | Created 7 Mar 2013 | Last significant change: 22 Jan 2020
07:20: Peter Jones added Phoebe Louisa (Lord) Anderson (abt.1868-1891) as child for Margaret Louisa (Cleeve) Anderson (abt.1832-1906). [Thank Peter for this | 1 thank-you received]
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Biography

Margaret (Cleeve) Anderson is an Indigenous Australian.

Margaret Louisa Cleeve was born to an Unknown Aboriginal woman about 1832. Her father is suggested to be John Kingdon Cleeve, the owner of a butchering business. Daughter Mary Ann Lord's birth certificate of 3 February 1861 records her mother's age as 30 years for a birth year about 1831. Margaret's age is recorded as 32 years on son Alfred Lord's birth certificate of 20 February 1864, making her birth year about 1832, and son George Lord's birth certificate of 23 June1866 has her age as 34 for a birth year also about 1832. Margaret's death certificate in 1906 records she was 70 years of age when she died for a birth year about 1836. The birth locations for Margaret on those 3 birth certificates are 'Illiwara', 'Sydney' and 'Liverpool' respectively.

Margaret first married David William Lord on 27 Jun 1850 at Parish of All Saints, in the County of Camden NSW. Witnesses were Stephen Small and Mary Small of Bendooly[1]. The fate of David William Lord is not certain. There are two possible deaths registered, 1. William Lord d. 10 Mar 1865 at Mudgee NSW 1865/4637. 2. David Lord d. 3 Aug 1870 at Gladsville Hospital 1870/5768.

Mary Ann Lord's birth certificate (no informant) indicates that there were 6 previous children, i.e. before 1861: Alfred's in 1864 that there were 1 boy and 1 girl living with 4 deceased (David Lord informant); and George's in 1866 that there were 8 previous children, 2 males an 2 females living and 2 males and 2 females deceased (James Anderson, Superintendent Hunthawang Station informant). This suggests they could have had 9 children, and that David Lord passed away between the conception of his last child George, about Sept/Oct 1865, and his birth in June 1866, unless George's father was James Anderson [2].

There is an Ancestry Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, record, which would be a transcription from a birth certificate, for an Alice L Lord, born in 1857 in New South Wales, with the birth registered in Berrima, Bong Bong, Sutton Forest, New South Wales, Australia, to William D Lord and Margaret (Volume Number: V18571053 155). The Ancestry Family Tree[3] gives the specific date as 8 August 1857, location Bendooley, Berrima, NSW, and full name Alice Louise Lord, suggesting the author had access to the birth certificate. Also the same Ancestry FT has her death details as 14 Nov 1862 • South Hay, New South Wales, and "Died from burns received from a camp fire", with an Ancestry Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985 record having the year as 1862, Father David and Mother Margaret, registration no.2353, at Hay, New South Wales.

Thus of the 4 identified children of David Lord and Margaret 3 were born in the Western Riverina and Riverina areas of New South Wales, and one died there, whereas the death of a suggested father, William Lord, at Mudgee was in eastern New South Wales northwest of Sydney. Also the only one of those records with the name William included is that for the birth of Alice Louise Lord. All others have simply David Lord, which was the name given to him when baptised in Kent, England in 1827.

No information has been found for Margaret Cleves' subsequent marriage to James Anderson (Margaret's surname as spelt on James' Death Certificate Number 482 dated 12 October 1932). It names 4 children: "Alfred 68 years, George 66 years, Alice 64 years living, one female deceased" with Phoebe's name handwritten.

No birth records have so far been found for Alice Anderson, and event ages give the year as about 1868 or 1871. There is no death age and her grave is unmarked[4].

Phoebe Anderson's tombstone has her as the "Beloved daughter of James and Margaret Anderson who departed this life May 17th 1891 aged 22 years and 6 months". Her birth was actually registered 3 years late, in Hay, New South Wales but with the name given as and under Lord[5]. Her death was registered as Phoebe Anderson in Condobolin, New South Wales on 17 May 1891, where she was also buried[6].

Christening

Mar 1849
Christ Church CE, Bong Bong, NSW, Australia[7]
Location as above
When baptised - 11 March 1849
When born - date of birth unknown Semi-Aborigine
Name - Margaret
Parents' Name - J.K. & Unknown
Surname - Cleeve
Abode - Sydney
Quality or profession - butcher
W.Stone, Minister[8]

Death

Margaret died 31 May 1906 at Lincoln, near Wellington, New South Wales. The informant was James Anderson, her second husband.[9]

The 1892 Geographical Encyclopedia of NSW lists Lincoln as - "a postal village 260 miles west of Sydney. The nearest railway station is Wellington, 10 miles, on the western line." Lincoln does not appear to exist any longer.

NSW death certificate no. 7118 of 1906
Margaret Louisa Anderson
d. 31 May 1906
Lincoln, District of Wellington
domestic duties
female
70 years
conjugal status -
place of birth - Sydney, NSW
father - [unknown] Clives, butcher
mother - unknown
married
1. Burrawang, NSW
age 15
David Lord
children - William H 55, Mary A 45, living; 1 female deceased
2. Hunkawang, Lachlan River, NSW
age 25
James Anderson
children - Alfred L 43, George 41, Phoebe 39, Alice 37, living; 1 female deceased
informant - James Anderson, husband, Lincoln
cause of death - Pneumonia, 8 days
medical attendant - Charles Graham
last seen - 30 May 1906
burial - 1 Jun 1906, CE cemetery, Bodangora, NSW

Burial

Margaret is buried at Bodangora Cemetery NSW with her 2nd Husband, James Anderson (1836-1932).[10][11]

Sources

  1. Australian, New South Wales, Births Deaths Marriages, Marriage Registration 243 Vol: 36B
  2. http://www.genealogy.kirkpatrickaustralian.com/archives/getperson.php?personID=I21222&tree=TKA
  3. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/58105107/person/44038745722/facts
  4. http://www.genealogy.kirkpatrickaustralian.com/archives/getperson.php?personID=I21222&tree=TKA
  5. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1778&h=2318050&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=CrY537&_phstart=successSource
  6. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/48667919
  7. "Australia Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTXJ-MVF : 11 December 2014), Margaret Cleeve, Mar 1849; citing CHURCH OF ENGLAND, , NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA; FHL microfilm 993,935.
  8. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61177&h=50567&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=CrY501&_phstart=successSource
  9. Australian, New South Wales, Births Deaths Marriages, Death Certificate NSW BDM 1906/7118
  10. Australian, New South Wales, Births Deaths Marriages, Death Certificate NSW BDM 1906/7118
  11. Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 22 January 2020), memorial page for Margaret Louise Anderson (1835–31 May 1906), Find A Grave Memorial no. 51456488, citing Bodangora General Cemetery, Bodangora, Dubbo Regional Council, New South Wales, Australia ; Maintained by Brett Williams (contributor 47234529) Find A Grave: Memorial #51456488

See also

  • Confirmed matches for death date and place, marriage, second partner and children. via My Heritage. Birth place and date has alternates: March 3 1832 at either Sutton Forest or Deniliquin NSW

DNA Confirmation

  • David William Lord & Margaret Louisa Cleaves as parents of Mary Ann Lord & brother William Lord; relationship is confirmed with an AncestryDNA test match between Michael Tait and Lyn Crabb-Harrison, 3rd cousins, once removed. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 4th - 6th Cousins; Confidence: High

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Lindsay Swadling for creating WikiTree profile Cleeve-14 through the import of lindsay.ged on Mar 4, 2013.

Thank you to Wal Kirkpatrick for his work researching Margaret and her family. http://www.genealogy.kirkpatrickaustralian.com/archives/getperson.php?personID=I1010&tree=TKA



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Margaret Louisa Cleaves (CLEEVE) is my GGG Grandmother. Mick Tait
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Margaret is 24 degrees from Danielle Liard, 17 degrees from Jack London and 19 degrees from Henry VIII of England on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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