Idonea (Clifford) de Percy

Idoine (Clifford) de Percy (abt. 1300 - 1365)

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Idoine (Idonea) "Baroness Percy" de Percy formerly Clifford aka de Clifford
Born about in Castle Clifford, Herefordshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married about [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died in (bur) Beverley Minster, Beverley, East Yorkshire, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 21 Oct 2010
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Idonea Clifford is a descendant of a Magna Carta surety baron.
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Idonea de Clifford is a descendant of Magna Carta surety barons Roger le Bigod, Hugh le Bigod, Richard de Clare, Gilbert de Clare, John de Lacy and Saher de Quincy.

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Biography

Idoine was grandmother to both of the two great northern rivals and Shakespearean characters, Westmorland and Northumberland (father of Hotspur).

Name

Douglas Richardson writes:[1]

The correct name of Henry de Percy's wife is Idoine de Clifford. "Idonia" or "Idonea" are the Latin forms of her name and should be avoided.
There are no less than five separate visitations/medieval sources which name Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, as a Clifford, or the daughter of Lord Clifford:
1. Archaeologia Aeliana 3 (1844): 40 (Chronicles of Alnwick Abbey: "Iste Henricus disponsavit idoneam filiam Domini de Clyfford et genuit ex ea Anno Domini 1320 Henricum quartum et tertium Dominum de Alnewyk et alios plures filios et filias inter quos erat Thomas qui postea fuit Episcopus Norwicens ...").
2. Atkinson, Cartularium Abbathiæ de Whiteby 2 (Surtees Soc. 72) (1881): 690-696 (Percy ped.: "The fourth Henry Lord Percy ... gat on Idonea Clyfford Henry, William, Richard, Maude, Alianour Fitzwater, Roger, and Margarett that was maried to the Erle of Angus Sonne and his heire.").
3. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 241-244 (Percy ped.: "Henry 4 Lord Percy. = Ida doughter of the Lord Clyfford.").
This item is available online at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=pjMEAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA242
4. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 18-20 (Percy ped.: "Henricus Percy = Idonea Clifforde").
This item is available online at the following weblink:
http://www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees144text.pdf
5. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 4 (Surtees Soc. 146) (1932): 17-24 (Lassels ped.: "Idonæ [Clifford] mar: to Henry lord Percy").
This item is available online at the following weblink:
http://www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees146text.pdf

Birth

Given that we know that Sir Henry Percy was born in 1300 or 1301, and given that Henry's son and heir, also named Henry, was born about 1322-5, the birth of Idoine de Clifford would necessarily have to fall about 1300-1310. Given the chronology, Idoine de Clifford can be placed as a daughter of Robert de Clifford (died 1314), 1st Lord Clifford, and his wife, Maud de Clare, which Robert and Maud were married in 1295. Idoine de Clifford was surely named for her father's maternal aunt, Idoine de Vipont (died 1333), wife of Roger de Leybourne, Knt., and John de Cromwell, Knt., Lord Cromwell.

Parentage

Idoine de Clifford was the daughter of Sir Robert de Clifford of Appleby, 1st Baron Clifford, and his wife Maud de Clare, daughter of Sir Thomas de Clare of Thomond.

Marriage

She married[2] Sir Henry Percy, 2nd Lord Percy, son of Sir Henry Percy and his wife Eleanor, daughter of Richard Fitz Alan (or de Arundel), Knt., 8th Earl of Arundel.[3]

Henry de Percy was born at Leconfield, Yorkshire, either 2 Feb 1299/1300 (father's inquisition) or 6 Feb 1300/1 (proof of age.) [4][4]

Public Life

Sir Henry was "knighted by the King at York in 1323."[3]

Death

Sir Henry de Percy, 2nd Lord Percy, died at Warkworth, Northumberland 26 Feb 1351/2, and was buried at Alnwick Abbey, Northumberland. He left a will dated 13 Sept 1349, proved 12 March 1351/2, in which he bequeathed his son Henry, a vessel of salt with the arms of Percy and Arundel. His widow, idoine, died 24 August 1365, and was buried at Beverley Minster, East Riding, Yorkshire. [4]

Issue

Documented Issue

Idoine and Henry had 5 sons and 4 daughters:[5]

Disputed Issue

Douglas Richardson's books, most recently Royal Ancestry, published in 2013 [4], do not list a son Richard. However, in material attributed to a post by Richardson (included in this profile), Richard is listed. Therefore Richard is retained here as a disputed son.

Sources

  1. 25 Dec 2014 posting of Douglas Richardson on soc.genealogy.medieval - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/RwsglODE710/GDd7-CS9qjIJ
  2. c. 1314 (#Lewis) - probably the contract date, given that birth years for both bride and groom are about 1300
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry p 336
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, 2013, pp 350-351
  5. Richardson citations (#Lewis)
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: 2013), Vol. II. page 242-243
  • Royal Ancestry 2013 Vol. IV p. 348-350
  • Magna Carta Ancestry 2005 p. 652-7
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013)
  • [Idoine de Clifford, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" (website, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR; accessed June 5, 2015), citing
    • Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry, Plantagenet Ancestry, and Royal Ancestry
    • Unknown author, Europaische Stammtafeln by Isenburg, chart 711, Vol. 3
    • Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1875
    • Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 11.
    • The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. I, p. 150.
See also:
  • Wikipedia articles:
    • Henry, her husband (lists only 5 children)
    • Robert, her father
For interesting references to Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, see the following weblinks:
http://books.google.com/books?id=1MUwhOPhfKcC&pg=PA116&dq=Idoine+Percy
http://books.google.com/books?lr=&id=8AMhAAAAMAAJ&dq=Idoine+Percy&q=Idoine&pgis=1#search_anchor
http://books.google.com/books?id=RzUdAAAAIAAJ&q=Idoine+Percy&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=&pgis=1
http://books.google.com/books?id=cu8i2yausLcC&pg=PA124&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=
The tomb at Beverley Minster, Yorkshire which is now attributed to Idoine de Clifford, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, bears shields with various coats of arms, among them Clifford.

Acknowledgements

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Collaboration

On 13 May 2017 at 20:59 GMT Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill wrote:

Liz, I see a merge was just completed, but no one cleaned up the profile. I'll delete the stuff from the merged profile. Thanks.

On 13 May 2017 at 20:51 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

um... can we get an explanation for the "Uncertain Existance" category? She can't be in both that category and a Magna Carta trail that was reviewed/approved by the MC Project.

Thanks!

On 13 May 2017 at 19:24 GMT Ann (Thompson) Johnson wrote:

Clifford-1751 and Clifford-59 appear to represent the same person because: Same person?

On 7 Mar 2016 at 09:55 GMT RJ Horace wrote:

Called Imania in her husband's will.

On 9 Jun 2015 at 17:15 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

update: looks like it was reviewed & badged! (and sorry, but it seems the suggested line link I posted went away - try the backup copy) ~ Liz, Sept. 28, 2015

Hi! This profile is in the Magna Carta trail between the Gateway Ancestor Robert Peyton and Magna Carta surety baron Saher de Quincy.

See Magna Carta suggested lines for the profiles between Robert and Maud, de Quincy's 3x-gr-granddaughter. This trail has just been placed in the queue for review. For more information about the Magna Carta project, see the project page. To see information about the 800th Anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta, see Magna Carta 800th.

Cheers, Liz

On 5 Jun 2015 at 19:07 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

update: all done - this profile's ready for review when the rest of the trail is done

Hi! I'm working on a Magna Carta trail for Major Robert Peyton, a Gateway Ancestor, to Ralph Neville, a descendant of a Magna Carta surety baron. I noticed that this profile for his grandmother is pretty much done & ready for review by the project, if it were part of a trail, so I plan to extend the trail for Robert Peyton through Ralph's mother Maud Percy and this profile. Message me if you have any questions. Thanks, Liz

On 11 Apr 2015 at 03:18 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Clifford-1614 and Clifford-59 appear to represent the same person because: what info there is for Clifford-1614 looks like a match with Clifford-59. Please merge if you agree. Thanks!



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