Profile category is "'Needs_Document_Image" - Which means the uploading of a baptism image, properly cited so that it will not cause copyright issues, so that the full transcription of the spelling of the LastNameAtBaptism can be compared to validate the Project Profile Protection of the current spelling!
Mrt 6, 1707"Hendrik Biebouw / Bibault ... son of surgeon Detlev Biebow (from Mecklenburg) & immigrant orphan girl Willemintje Ariens: de Wit (from Rotterdam) - shipped out with 7 other orphan girls on the ship China (1688) ... step-son of Stellenbosch deacon Jacob Pleunis (from Orsoy [Rheinburg]) ... his biological father & step-father both sire illegitimate children {Susanna} by Malagasy slave women Susanna [ed. This is actually Diana van Madagascar - see: http://e-family.co.za/ffy/exhibits/timeline-diana.pdf [Delia Robertson] [8][9]] & Lijsje van Madagascar respectively] … who goes on a rampage (1707) with his 3 unmarried cohorts - coinciding with free-burgher Adam Tas et al agitation against Willem Adriaan van der Stel's governership & cronyism - assaulting the miller at Stellenbosch, Sebastian Schroeder (from Schledehausen near Osnabrück) thereby gaining latter-day notoriety & commemoration for uttering contumaciously to interceding Landdrost Johannes Starrenberg: "ik wil niet loopen, ’k ben een Africaander al slaat die landrost myn dood, of al setten hij mijn in den tronk. Ik sal, nog wil niet swygen" ... which quote (since 1928 & subsequently) - arguably - is generally taken out of context, politically reconstructed & claimed to represent the beginnings of latter-day "Afrikaner" identity ...
• Jan Cloete - grandson of murdered cattle rustler Jacob Cloete (from Cologne) & youngest son of intrepid hunter & Drakenstein ensign Gerrit Cloete (from Cologne) who farmed at "Idas valley", Stellenbosch & "Allesverloren", Riebeeck Kasteel whose older brother Jacob Cloete (1675-1713) mercilessly (fatally?) beats up (1696) 'stamvader' Jan Smit (from Maastrict [Limburg]) – aided & abetted by another Cape-born youngster Jan Harmensz: Potgieter (1674-1733) “saying that a Cape-born man should not give way to a fellow from the fatherland” (seggende 't is niet te dulden dat een Caaps kindt voor een vaaderlandts keerel souden moeten swigten ...); and
Inventaris mitsgaders taxatie van alle sodanige goederen, roerende en onroerende, schulden en inneschulden etc:a als ’er sijn naagelaten en met ’er dood ontruijmt bij den oud heemraad aan Stellenbosch Jan Cloeten, ten voordeelen van sijn nagelatene huijsvrouw Geertruij Pretorius en
sijn drie voorkinderen gen:t Jan Hend:k
Gerrit en
Petronella Kloeten
volgens desselfs mutueel testament voor den Secretaris aan Stellenbosch Pieter Mazot en getuijgen in dato 11:e April 1730 met sijn voorn: vrouw gepasseert; en door de ondergetekende gecommitt. Weesm:en op ’t versoek van opgem:e weed: g'inventariseert en getaxeert, namentlijk [11]
↑ 2.02.1 WikiTree profile Cloete-32 created through the import of My Family.Pretorius.Van_Wyk.DeWaal.Potgieter.2011.ged on Sep 19, 2011 by Judy Potgieter.
↑ 4.04.14.24.34.4 WikiTree profile Cloete-108 created through the import of Vermaak Family Site - 05 May 2013.GED by Dina Vermaak on May 5, 2013. Source:
Author: Paul Mare Title: Mare/Maree Family in South Africa Text: MyHeritage.com family tree Page: Johannes (Jan) Cloete
↑ 5.05.1 WikiTree profile Cloete-128 created through the import of Pretorius Family Tree 1.ged by Willem Pretorius on Aug 10, 2013.
EGGSA Source: The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions (http://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/ : accessed 4 Jan 2017), http://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-town-ngk-1665-to-1695/57-cape-town-baptisms-1687Page 32 Cape Archives Verbatim Copies VC 603, Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk, baptisms 1665 to 1696.VC 603 is a photocopy made during the 1980s of the original, made for the Sciences Research Council (HSRC) and a copy was donated to the South African Archives, a copy going to the Cape Town repository and to the Pretoria Repository (where it is part of the FC series).The original register is now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1 1/1. The transcription was originally made in 2006 by Richard Ball. Corrections were received from Delia Robertson and Alwyn Smit and Corney Keller had now completely revised and amended the original transcript (February 2012). There are no doubt still mistakes, both of typing and transcription, but they are much fewer. We will be pleased to receive any suggestion for corrections. Seen and added by Gordon Mac Rae 22 May 2017.
DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Johannes by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Johannes:
Hi, could you please set this bio to open so that I can edit the contents please? This profile also needs to be merged into a pre-1700 profile .... (I send personal messages as well).
Cloete-239 and Cloete-32 appear to represent the same person because: Same date of birth, common spouse, Johannes had three wives - Olivier, van der Merwe, Pretorius, three children - Johannes, Gerrit, Petronella
Kind regards, Philip van der Walt
edited by Philip van der Walt
I think these are duplicates. Reason: See matching baptism dates