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Henry Cobb (bef. 1610 - bef. 1679)

Elder Henry Cobb
Born before in Kent, Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about Apr 1631 in Barnstable, Massachusettsmap [uncertain]
Husband of — married 12 Dec 1649 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusettsmap
Descendants descendants
Died before at about age 69 in Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 14 Apr 2010
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Henry Cobb migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1620-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 1, p. 392)
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Disputed Relations

Because his previously claimed parents have been disproven, the Henry Cobb and Pleasance Reddwood have been detached as parents. Similarly the specific birth date of January 8, 1596 has also been removed. Please do not attach parents without discussion.

While a 2 May 1615 baptism of a Henry Cobb, son of Henry was found in the old register of St Mary's Church, Reculver,[1], and OEC suggested this Henry was the immigrant to America, a 1615 birth would be too young for the Henry Cobb of Barnstable.

Similarly, John E. Cobb proposed in 1985 that

"immigrants Henry Cobb of Plymouth and Ambrose Cobb of the Virginia Colony were of the same Kent Family, i.e., they shared a common progenitor in John Cobb, Esquire (b. ca 1300) of Cobb’s Court, Romney, Kent."[2]

However, DNA analysis disproving the relatedness between Henry Cobb of Barnstable and Ambrose Cobb of Virginia is described in more detail by Hubert F. Cobb in 2005.[3]

In addition, "in 1999, I [Hubert F. Cobb? see below] proved with wills that Elder Henry Cobb was not the son of Henry Cobb of Reculver, Co. Kent. With the data from the Cobb DNA project we now know that Henry Cobb and Ambrose Cobb are not related. Ambrose is a descendant of the Reculver Cobb’s. The DNA project also shows there are two distinct Cobb lines in Kent (maybe more)."

Suggested Origins

The following is excerpted from a "write-up" done by Cobb research Hubert F. Cobb, published [sic; this work, unfortunately, does not appear to have been published] in an attempt to help eliminate mis-information about Henry Cobb "The Elder" highlights of which include:[4][5]

"Savage the historian says Henry 'had been of Plymouth about 1629'. This is supported by the church records that say several persons arrived in 1629, some of whom had been in Mr Laythrops (Lothrop) Church in England. Most of us know of the close association Henry [Cobb] had with Rev. Lothrop, both here and in England."
"In Nathaniel Morton’s "History of the Plymouth Church 1620-1680" is the following paragraph discussing streghtening (sic) the colony with a new group of immigrants:
"In Anno 1629 a Considerable Number of the bretheren of the Church which were le[ft] in Holland were Transported ouer to vs that were of the Church in New England which although it was att About 500lb charge yet it was bourne Chearfully by the poor bretheren heer Concerned in It; alsoe about that time seuerall Godly prsons; some wherof had bin of mr Laythrops Church in England and others alsoe Came to vs out of England; so wee becaime through the Goodnes of God pretty Numerous and were in the best estate Respecting the Church that wee had as yet bine in New England." (Also see NEHGS New England Ancestors, Fall 2003, Vol 4, No. 4, pg. 28).
"The fact that Dean[e] in his history of Scituate says he was one of the "men of Kent" and that Rev. John Lothrop preached in Kent plus his association with other men of Kent seems to indicate that he probably was from Kent."
In a book Early English Dissenters by Champlin Burrage is the following which is also interesting:
"After Jacobs departure the congregation managed as best it could without a pastor until about 1624, when John Lathrop, who had formerly been a Puritan preacher at Cheriton in Kent [just outside Folkestone and about 8 or 9 miles from Romney Marsh or Cobb’s Court], and who evidently was still an Independent Puritan, joined the church. He was chosen pastor in 1625."
"Did Elder Henry meet the Rev. in Cheriton and live somewhere around that area? We now have three areas where they could have met, Egerton, Cheriton or Southwark."

Two pedigrees of the Cobb line in Kent have been very helpful in sorting out the families as has Hasted's History of Kent. The two pedigrees are:

  • "The Pedigrees of the families in the County of Kent" by William Berry, London, 1830,
  • The Cobb Pedigree at the College of Arms by Ralphe Brooke, York Herald, 1607 [sic]. Chris Cobb of the Cobb DNA project points out Ralphe Brooke was quite a scoundrel and may have made up part of the pedigree.
  • Canterbury Cathedral has another Cobb pedigree.

Biography

Henry apparently was brought up in the Church of England, and in his young manhood, because of the wrongs tolerated in that Church, broke away from the Establishment and joined the Pilgrims. He is said to have united with a Congregational Church in London, of which the Rev. John LOTHROPP, Sr, The Pioneer, was then pastor. [citation needed]

Henry probably came to America in "The Anne" in 1629.[6]

He married first by 1632, Patience Hurst (birth of first child 7 Jun 1632).[7]

He moved to Scituate, MA, in 1633, and from there to Barnstable, MA, in 1639.

He was Deacon or Ruling Elder in Scituate and Barnstable for 34 years. He also held various civil offices, among them the Deputy to the General Court of the Colony for several years. Henry and his 2 wives had 16 children, 3 born in Plymouth, 2 in Scituate and 11 in Barnstable.

On 8 January 1634/5, he was listed as member #7 at the founding of Scituate Church.

On 5 Jun 1644, he was licensed to draw wine-- i.e., he was a tavern keeper.

He married second Sarah Hinckley 12 DEC 1649 in Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts.[8]

He is buried at the Lothrop Hill Cemetery, Barnstable County, Massachusetts[9].

Enoch Taylor Cobb, Henry's 3rd great-grandson, erected a stone to the memory of Henry in the Lothrop Hill Cemetery[9] in 1871 with the following inscription:

ELDER
HENRY COBB
THE
ANCESTOR
OF THE COBB
FAMILY IN, USA
BARNSTABLE
DIED IN 1679
______
ERECTED BY
ENOCH T. COBB
A DESCENDANT
IN 1871.

Last Will & Testament

His will was written 04 Apr 1673, codicil 22 Feb 1678, proved June 3, 1679, Plymouth Colony.[10]

Henry's will names sons John, James, Gershom and Eleazer to whom he had previously given "half my Lands at Suconeesset. Also named were son Jonathon and daughters Mary, Hannah, Patience and Sarah. The will includes "Great Lott of Land in Barnstable" to his son James who paid his older brother 5£ for his interest, to his wife Sarah "new dwelling house" and the remainder of his "Lands both upland and meadow." The original will gave the "dwelling house" to his son Samuel upon the death of Sarah but the codicil changed the recipient to be his son Henry.

Children

With first wife Patience Hurst:

  1. John Cobb, who married 1st Martha Nelson and 2nd Jane Woodward
  2. James Cobb, who married Sarah Lewis
  3. Mary Cobb, who married Jonathan Dunham
  4. Hannah Cobb, who married Edward Lewis
  5. Patience Cobb, who married 1st Robert Parker and 2nd William Crocker
  6. Gershom Cobb, who married Hannah Davis
  7. Eliezer Cobb

With second wife, Sarah Hinckley:

  1. Mehitable Cobb, who died young
  2. Samuel Cobb, who married Elizabeth Taylor
  3. Sarah Cobb, who died as an infant
  4. Jonathan Cobb, who married Hope (Chipman) Huckins, daughter of John Chipman and widow of John Huckins
  5. Sarah Cobb, (2nd of that name) who married Samuel Chipman
  6. Henry Cobb Jr., who married Lois Hallett. Lois was the daughter of Joseph and his wife Elizabeth (Gorham) Hallett.
  7. Mehitable Cobb, no further record
  8. Experience Cobb, no further record

Needs

Needs Bio Improvement. Lengthy narrative comments, missing inline citations, but only partly duplication, were appended to the profile during a mid-2022 merge. These lengthy comment have been moved to Henry Cobb Research Notes. The new information should be discovered by carefully comparing it to the current biography, and, as appropriate, new information, supported by reliable sources, should be added to Henry's profile with any needed inline citations. See the comment thread here.

Sources

  1. Rev. Royston W Cole, Vicar of Reculver and Herne Bay, Kent, letter dated Jul 1936 wrote to Oliver Ellsworth Cobb: "Anderson, son of Henry Cobb, Baptized 24th of May, 1612... Henry, son of Henry Cobb, was Baptized 2nd day of May, 1615, etc."
  2. Col. John E. Cobb, "Cobb Chronicles: an overview of the clan (may have to view only from LDS centers)," Alexandria, VA: Durant Publishers 1985, p 26
  3. Hubert F Cobb, "Cobb Family Genetics: A Case Study in Using DNA," in New England Ancestors, Boston, MA: NEHGS, Winter 2005, Vol 6, Number 1, pp 43-44. This article confirms that Henry Cobb of Barnstable is not related to Ambrose Cobb of Virginia, previously thought to be brothers.
  4. Hubert F. Cobb, "Elder Henry Cobb of Plymouth, Scituate and Barnstable, MA," 66 Campbell Shore Rd., Gray, ME 04039 (2004); private collection of Larry Chesebro'
  5. Hubert F Cobb, Cobb (Hubert) Family Records, (Apr 2007). HFCobb (at) scurespeed.us, 66 Campbell Shore, Road, Gray, ME 04039; private collection of Larry Chesebro'
  6. New England Ancestors, Boston, MA: NEHGS; Fall 2003, Vol 4, No. 4, pg. 28.
  7. Robert Charles Anderson, Great Migration Begins, The, NEHGS, Boston, (1995), Vol 1, pages 392-395; specifically p. 394, citing will of James Hurst and NEHGR 9:281 and PCR 8:42
  8. Anderson (1995), citing NEHGR 9:281 and PCR 8:42.
  9. 9.0 9.1 Find A Grave: Memorial #38873918, citing Lothrop Hill Cemetery, Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts, USA; Maintained by Shari Hanson Frey (contributor 47119699).
  10. "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-997D-V3XQ : 14 March 2023), Wills 1633-1686 vol 1-4 > image 490 of 616; State Archives, Boston.

See also:

  • Robert Charles Anderson. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633. Vol. 1-3. Boston, MA, USA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995.
  • Cully A. Cobb, The Cobbs of Tennessee, Atlanta, GA: Ruralist Press, Inc. (1968). Mrs. Ethel M. A. Curtis of La Verne, CA is the one that made the connection of Ambrose Cobb to Kent and Cully hired Mr. Arthur J. Willis to prove the connection into the Cobb family in Kent. This Ambrose Cobb that was the emigrant was the son of Ambrose shown on page 151 of Berry’s Cobb Pedigree of Co. Kent. NOTE: subsequent DNA analysis proved that Henry Cobb of Massachusetts was not related to this Ambrose Cobb.
  • Duane Philips Cobb, "The "Blacksmith Cobbs of Corfe Castle, Dorset, England" 1981. This is part of the Taunton, MA Cobb line.
  • Isaac Cobb (1825-1890), "Early History and Genealogy of the Cobb Family in New England," unpublished genealogy of Elder Henry Cob’s descendants; the original is at the Maine Historical Society in Portland, ME. There are copies at several libraries’ in New England.
  • Oliver Ellsworth Cobb, The Cobbs of Stonington, Their Antecedents and Descendants with Allied Families, (1885, revised by Henry Evertson Cobb 1934), pages 1 - 10.
  • Philip L. Cobb, A History of the Cobb Family, Cleveland, OH (1907). This book was not completed as he died before it was published. Missing information may be in his manuscript files at Western Reserve Historical Society, Cleveland, OH. It has a lot of information on Henry Cobb and his descendants and most seems quite good. He also has a genealogy on Thomas Cobb of Boston, MA. This was Philip’s line. [1]
  • Samuel Deane, History of Scituate, Massachusetts, from its first settlement to 1831, Boston: J. Loring (1831)
  • Rev. John Lothrop, Church Records in Scituate and Barnstable, MA. He was at first a pastor of the established Church of England at Egerton, Co. Kent. Where is this source?
  • Scituate, Massachusetts: Second church records, Boston, MA: Wilford J. Litchfield (1909)
  • Amos Otis, historical papers published in the Barnstable Patriot, Yarmouth, Massachusetts, dates??
  • Susan E. Roser, Early Descendants of Henry Cobb of Barnstable, MA, Markham, ON, Canada: Stewart Publishing and Printing, 2008.
  • Richard Anson Wheeler, History of Stonington, Connecticut, 1649 - 1900, New London, CT, USA: Press of The Day Publishing Company (1900), page 429.
  • Bigelow, Samuel Fowler, The Biographical Cyclopedia of New Jersey, published 1909. Reference page 269
  • Jacobus, Donald Lines. An American Family, Botsford-Marble Ancestral Lines (Tuttle, Morehouse & Taylor, Connecticut, 1933) Page 237
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #38873918
  • New England Marriages prior to 1700, page 164 (both marriages).
  • http://massandmoregenealogy.blogspot.com/2011/08/henry-cobb-ca-1605-1679-england-to.html
  • Frank Farnsworth Starr. The Williamson and Cobb Families in the Lines of Caleb and Mary (Cobb) Williamson of Barnstable, Mass., and Hartford, Conn., Hartford, Conn.: Cambridge, University Press 1896.




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3 Jun 1679 is the date of proving his will, not date of death. _Great Migration Begins...1620-1633_ p. 394, says death was between 22 Feb. 1678/9 (writing of codicil to will) and 3 Jun 1679 (priving of will.
posted by Christine Crawford
Note that the date of date field now says "before" 3 June 1679. Sometimes we don't have a date of death so we use before probate date as we know the person was deceased by that date.
posted by Traci Thiessen
edited by Traci Thiessen
Henry Cobb's (Cobb-37) biography makes two references to his burial at the "Old Barnstable Cemetery." However, Find a Grave (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/38873918/henry-cobb) states he is buried at Lothrop Hill Cemetery in Barnstable. I have also personally visited his grave, and the sign alongside the street says Lothrop Hill Cemetery.

Are the Old Barnstable Cemetery and Lothrop Hill Cemetery different names for the same cemetery? If they are different, could his biography please be updated?

posted by Christopher Cobb
Good question, I've been trying to find some info on this. Assuming that Lothrop Hill (and the cemetery) were named for the Rev. John Lothrop, when was it thus named? In 1679 when Henry Cobb died, was the cemetery referred to by that name yet? I'm asking because WT uses date-sensitive place/names to try and reflect what places were called contemporaneously. In this case, I can't find anything for sure. Lothrop-3 died in 1653 so maybe they were calling it that name by 1679. I couldn't find anything definitive in this "History of Barnstable..." book https://archive.org/details/historyofbarnsta00deyo/page/488/mode/2up?q=Lothrop although it did mention Cobb's Hill named for Henry. The book mentions several cemeteries but it's not always clear where they are or if they have a name other than "this ancient cemetery in Yarmouth" or whatever.

In any case Rev. Lothrop's profile on WT gives the cemetery name as "Lothrop Hill" so I don't think there would be any objection if you wanted to change it in the bio narrative.

posted by Brad Stauf
Cobb-10785 and Cobb-37 appear to represent the same person because: A duplicate was inadvertently added.
posted by Brian Armstrong
Very strange. Second time in one week this profile has been duplicated. I will approve merge.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Cobb-10782 and Cobb-37 appear to represent the same person because: Cobb-10782 was inadvertently added
posted by Ray Zeller
I've approved and completed the merge, but could use some help combining the resultant bio/narrative.

The higher-numbered duplicate included some of the same info but also had additional info. Raymond, are you willing to help clean up the narrative?

posted by Jillaine Smith
Yes, I regret my error. I knew immediately there had to be a profile but I was distracted and saved the data. Just tell me what you want done and I will be glad to use my limited skill.
posted by Ray Zeller
Thanks, Raymond. The desired outcome is a single narrative with appropriate sub headers; I'd recommend you follow the outline of what was there before, and plug new information from your duplicate (should currently be found at the bottom of the merged narrative) where appropriate; might require some additional sub headers. Thanks so much.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Raymond,

Thank you for supporting WikiTree. Hoping to support this work, have moved what appear to be your research items to a free space page. See Henry Cobb Research Notes.

See Juillaine's helpful comments and the temporary "Needs" subsection in the biography. The noted research items are only partially a duplication of the existing biography. A careful review of the items to the existing biography will need to be done. As appropriate, additions should be made to the current profile narrative. --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
I believe that Henry Cobb's father is Baronet Henry Cobb (Cobb-520). I have that information from an Unsourced GEDCOM file
posted by Charles Cobb III
Hi Charles,

Please note that those parents have been disproven, as is noted in the "Disputed Relations" section on this profile.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
There is an proven existing direct Cobb to Cobb DNA link to Elder Henry Cobb. It may not be public. It was done with the early dna work with Hubert Cobb. Lots of the direct line of the Cobbs never moved more than 50 miles from the Cape until the 1940's.
posted by b Cobb
It is interesting that DNA is brought up without any carriers listed...

thank you for confirming that somewhere one does exist

posted by Gail Smith
Parents detached again. With new rules in place now, not just anyone can add parent back in.
posted by Jillaine Smith
It looks like Henry's parents need to be detached again.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
According to the source I've just attached, The Biographical Cyclopedia of New Jersey", he was born in 1596 in Kent. It also has a lot of other good biographical material on him becoming a disciple of Congregationalism; some of the info may be able to flesh out the section in his profile, marked "citation needed".
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Elder should be a nickname rather than part of his first name.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Cobb-3942 and Cobb-37 appear to represent the same person because: Same approx birth, same death, same spouse (see bio of -3842). Please merge, retaining all the data fields and sourced bio in -37, which is a PPP.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Cobb-3551 and Cobb-37 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same wife
posted by Bob Tonsmeire
Susan Roser is a genealogist for the Association of Mayflower Descendants and her book about this Cobb family is available for purchase. She pegs his birth at ca 1605-1610 and gives her reasons for doing so. She also gives 15 children. His eldest child is John followed by James.
posted by Morag (Morrison) M
Thank you, Becky! I went ahead and incorporated that into the narrative; should anyone else have any source citations for the information in this profile, please feel free to add it directly to the narrative. Thanks!
posted by Jillaine Smith
For marriages Henry Cobb, see GMB Vol I p. 394. 1)by 1632, married Patience Hurst (birth of first child 7 June, 1632), citing will of James Hurst and NEHGR 9:281 and PCR 8:42. 2) Sarah Hinckley Dec. 12, 1649. Citations: NEHGR 9:281 and PCR 8:42.
posted by Becky (Nally) Syphers