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Catharina (Cool) Cole (bef. 1739 - abt. 1803)

Catharina (Catherine) Cole formerly Cool aka Decker, Rosecrans
Born before in Machackemeck, Orange County, New Yorkmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about after about age 63 in United Statesmap
Profile last modified | Created 3 Jan 2018
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Catherine (Cool) Cole was a New Netherland Descendant 1674-1776.
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Biography

Catharina was baptized on 29 May 1739 in the Reformed Dutch Church of Machackemeck, New York, recorded as the child of Andries Cool and Sara Schoonmaker. Witnesses were Henrik Dekker and Catharina Schoonmaker.[1]

Her daughter Sara Dekker was baptized in 1763.[2]

She passed away about 1803.

Church Records

Baptism
  • 1739. May 29. Andries Cool, Sara Schoonmaker. Catharina. Witnesses: Henrik Dekker, Catharina Schoonmaker [maternal aunt?] [Machackemeck Church].[1]

Research Notes

LNAB

Her LNAB is Cool, the name recorded for her father at her baptism. Smith-62120 23:46, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Note on Place Names

Some contributions to this profile have indicated her birthplace or baptism place as "Deer Park, New York." Machackemeck is now called Deerpark, but at the time of her birth the "Deerpark" name was not in use. The New York place named Deer Park is entirely different, it is on Long Island.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Vosburgh, page 100.
  2. "New York Births and Christenings, 1640-1962," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V2CH-KPK : 12 December 2014), Catrina Cool in entry for Sarah Dekker, 24 Jun 1763; citing DUTCH REFORMED CHURCH, MACHACKEMECK, ORANGE, NEW YORK, reference ; FHL microfilm 599,307.




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Attached is my proposed solution for the merge of this profile and (Kool-395).

1) Reject the merge: I can not find a connection between (Kool-395) and (Rosencarns-88) no wedding and not in her will

2) remove (Cole-14768) as a wife of Rosenkrans-88

3) merge the children Katharine Rosencrans-start (Rosencrans-98) and Cacharine Rosencrans (Rosencrans-181) and set (Kool-395) as mother, add will of (Kool-395) as a source for the remaining profile

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Catherine (Cool) Cole was a New Netherland Descendant 1674-1776.
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posted on Cole-14768 (merged) by George Morstadt
Thank you that works!! Thank you for looking into this further. I’m still new and did t know a better way to fix this.
posted on Cole-14768 (merged) by Janice Memory
Slow down. There are two different women of the same name. The dates and details for them in their profiles were almost all wrong (bad data from bad databases on Ancestry). We need to work methodically to compile good information from church records and other primary sources. Don't jump to conclusions!
posted on Cole-14768 (merged) by Ellen Smith
I guess that when I sign comments like these I should identify myself as the New Netherland Project Leader -- the person who you were hoping to invite to review this issue.

We have multiple women with the same name. Spellings were not standardized in those days, and Catryntje, Catharina, Catharine, occasionally Catherine, and other similar names are all seen in records as variant spellings of the same name. Similarly, Kool, Cool, and Cole were all variant spellings of the same name -- all of those spellings were pronounced like "Cole" is pronounced in modern English.

Name spellings are not a valid basis for distinguishing different individuals in this time and place. And in perusing these families, I have yet to see evidence that supports a conclusion as to which Cath. Cool married which husband or pair of husbands. The current assignment of husbands looks like I could be nothing more than some arbitrary guesses.

posted on Cole-14768 (merged) by Ellen Smith
I don't see Catherine Cole as being married to Petrus Decker. In her will she mentions a first husband, Martin Kirkendall (or Kuykendal) and the second husband is Jacob Rosenkranz. She mentions children by both and there is no mention of a Petrus Decker. She married her first husband in 1758 and her second husband in 1765. Was there another marriage in there somewhere that might have been childless?
posted on Cole-14768 (merged) by Alycia Keating