John Collins I (abt. 1696 - abt. 1764)

Born about 1696 in Richmond, Henrico, Virginia

Ancestors

Descendants

Died about 1764 at about age 68 in Barnwell, South Carolina

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This profile is part of the Collins Update Jan 2024 Name Study.

Profile Represents John Collins (1696-1764) m Elizabeth Odom (presumed son of Thomas Collins and Anne Elizabeth (Moss/Wild) ^[1][2]

Discrepancy

No original source records have been located to confirm birth or marriage records. It appears that some erroneous information may have been published, and perhaps republished/reported, making the “actual facts” obscure. There is a great deal of conflicting information surrounding the Collins Family of Essex – Many Source-to-Source discrepancies; co-mingling, Lack of records; conflicting family stories; number of Collin’s with the same names, etc.

An Effort has been made to update/split individual information from the Contemporary Profiles frequently containing co-mingled data on the various "Joseph's, Richards, etc., (see individual profiles for more detailed information). See Also Collins Family Research Notes

Unfortunately, many early Virginia records were destroyed during the Revolutionary and Civil Wars so it is difficult to locate birth, marriage and death records. As a result, no one can state with certainty who the Collins ancestors were of John Collins II of Maidstone. (That said, one is left to rely on wills, books, manuscripts, family histories and publications which there are many --- each with conflicting information.

Profiles suffer an array of issues, which may never be resolved, unless new records are uncovered. See individual profiles for updated source information Discrepancy - Co-mingled - Source-to-source Discrepancies (Further research needed to determine if Contemporary or same individuals). Many tree to tree discrepancies date/location discrepancies adjusted to most likely Find a grave memorials (See individual Profiles for Updated Research Notes)

Biography

John Collins (presumed son of Thomas Collins and Anne Elizabeth (Moss/Wild) ^[1][2]

Birth

Birth Estimate 1696 Richmond, Henrico County, Virginia, USA (FAG) vs England^[3] vs b 1696 England (ref "England, Middlesex Parish Registers, 1539-1988", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66DF-T419 : Sat Mar 09 17:48:44 UTC 2024), Entry for John Collins 18 Nov 1696.; presumed Parents Thomas Collins, (m Elizabeth Ann Wild

Marriage

Marriage Estimate 1715 Nansemond, Suffolk, Virginia

• Elizabeth Odom (1680-1798) (Odem/Odom) presumed parents - father, William Odom III, and mother, Elizabeth (Unknown) (possibly Elizabeth Mae Peter) (North/South Carolina) (alternate parent may have been Richard vs William (unproven)

Death/Will

Death Estimate: 1764 vs 1752 Barnwell County, SC; 1764

vs Date: 1737 Place: Barnwell County, SC; 1764 Craven County, North Carolina, Find A Grave Memorial 98984893

Will not Located

Children

8 Identified Children^[2] - Estimated Births 1720-1755 + 1 Unsourced/unproven George

• i. Samuel Collins (1752-1811) m. Elizabeth Unknown (and/or Elizabeth Davis,^[2][1]
• ii. John Collins (1723–1791) m Unknown Collins^[2][1]
• iii. Joseph Collins (1727-1800), m Dorcus Odom ^[2][1] (sister of Caty m Levin
• iv. Stephen Collins (1729-1800) m. SARAH SHACKLEFORD, ^[2][1]
• v. James (Elder) Collins (1731–1789 Married Catherine "Caty" Croom ^{[2] [1]}

^[4]vs Contemporary James m Mary James Kirtley ^[5]See Children Research Notes (FAG Originally reported as m 2X See Research

• (Unproven son) George Collins m Unknown
• vi. Lewis Collins (1731-1805) m Ann Dillard^[2][1]; vs Contemporary Lewis Collins son of Joseph Collins and Susanna Lewis See Research Notes Below
• vii. Levin Collins (1748-1806 married ANN CATHERINE "CATY" ODOM, (Sister of Collins-4355|Dorcus m Joseph Collins (1727-1800]]) https://www.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/das-mem/patron/v2/TH-904-77036-1295-21/dist.txt?ctx=ArtCtxPublic^[1]
• viii. Moses Collins (1753–1816) m Hannah Willis Bio of Moses Collins one of eight sons of John Collins and Elizabeth Odom^[1]

Research

Source to Source Discrepancies between Find a Grave and others; dates/Locations; Same names and several inter-marriages Generation to Generation; and families to families per HRC and RAP references. Note : Odom Sisters (daus of Benjamin Odom and Thamer (Powell) m sons of Elizabeth Odom and John Collins .

• Dorcus m Joseph Collins (1727-1800)
• Levin Collins (1748-1806 married ANN CATHERINE "CATY" ODOM

Edwards-7481 15:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC) 2021-2023 see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Collins_Family_Clean_Up_Effort_2021%2C_Collins_Name_Study

- Wiki IDs are considered the most up to date; w/dups merged; accurate as possible [LNAB's] vs all other Tree-to-Tree FHC; Geni; Ancestry or other tree-to-tree copies]

DNA

Due to a lack of verifiable sources, much of the information on the Early Collins family is in conflict.

• Profiles are Separated by family units until DNA can prove/disprove connections (several same named children/same timeframe; Generation to Generation w/spouses frequently same named (intermarriages Families to Families); i.e., Shackleford, Wild, Odom, etc.

Add Needed DNA Cross-Comparisons .

Children

Children of Elizabeth Odom^{[6] [7]}

Contemporary James m Mary James Kirtley

Appears to be Vaiden Error vs DNA; James only m 1X (Croom vs 2X Croom and Kirtley)

Does not appear to be the Same (or 2nd spouse) as the Contemporary James m Mary James Kirtley March 1 1763, Culpepper, Virginia ^[2]

• (DNA indicates the Presumed Parents of this James Collins is a John Collins (b late 1600s or early 1700s) (vs John m Elizabeth Odom; who married an unknown Dillard of Caroline County VA (based on unsupported (Bio/Trees) submitted by DNA testers at DNAGEN)

Lewis Collins - There may have been two, but all links were broken and only one now remains (Likely merged away) . The son of Elizabeth Odom likely m Ann Dillard (Wiki ID Collins-41164); or, may have been the Lewis who died 1805 in Kershaw SC).

The son of Susanna Lewis likely m Elizabeth Davis (Wiki ID Collins-1809 died with "1885 Will in Orange County, North Carolina ". Source to source discrepancies; Co mingled marriages Elizabeth Davis vs Ann Dillard Both may have Moved to South Carolina (per Pruitt) Jim Dangle.FTW] Lewis Collins moved to North Carolina where he left a will. His wife Elizabeth Davis moved on to South Carolina. Genanet Tree - https://gw.geneanet.org/gcollins?lang=en&n=collins&oc=0&p=lewis

(confusion with spouses and will docs - all links broken) Genanet and Geni Trees agree https://www.geni.com/people/Ann-Dillard/6000000000862274271

Timeline

• [In 1712, North and South Carolina were officially divided. By 1729, there were settlements on each of North Carolina's major river systems. But the biggest settlements, on the Albemarle and Pamlico Sounds, were a long way from South Carolina's major settlement of Charles Town (Charleston).]

  In 1717 John Collins purchased land in North Carolina from Jacob Odom.

• John Collins sold this land in 1731 and subsequently purchased land in South Carolina.

One John Collins appears on the 1769 Craven County, North Carolina Tax List. (Source: Ratcliff, Clarence E. North Carolina Taxpayers,1679-1790. Vol. 2. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co.,2003. Ancestry.com North Carolina Taxpayers, 1679-1790. Vol. 2;Accessed 15 Oct 2011)

A Will by John Collins naming Joseph Collins, Mary, and Samuel Collins was filed in Craven County, North Carolina in 1750. Probate Place: Craven, North Carolina, USA Inferred Death Place: North Carolina, USA Item Description: Wills, Vol F, 1890-1901 Need Text (abstract) See p.14 VAI^[2]

John Collins (1696-1794) Source; W.F.T. VOL> 1 TREE # 1078.; Will not located; presumed died in Barnwell South Carolina vs North Carolina.^[2]

Notes for ELIZABETH ODOM:

According to the Virginia Colonial Abstracts, Elizabeth Odom, mentioned in the Will of Darkis Vann in Gates County (1793) was related to the Langstons 2 - 77; witnessed the deed of Jacob Odom to John Collins in (1717); 1 - 018.

Sources / Footnotes

Links are provided for reference and convenience only (and are considered unreliable /unproven unless sources are contained within) Named: ^{[1][2] [5]}

1. ↑ ^{1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10} Find A Grave ([https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/98984893/john- collins FAG])
2. ↑ ^{2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12} https://www.vaiden.net/collins_descendents.pdf p.4; Herbert Ridgeway Collins (HRC #5-9 will p.14) searchable] Needs Verif
3. ↑ FHC IGI Christening Record https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L5LJ-8Z5
4. ↑ Will of James Collins - Barnwell District, S.C.; (As transcribed from the original, from Winton (Barnwell) County, South, Carolina; Book 1, Pages 77 and 78.) (pg 14 VAI]])<ref></ref>
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} See Children Research Notes
6. ↑ [https://www.wvi.us/collins/ Andreas File
7. ↑ * (locked Partner Tree) "MyTrees.com," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:31NR-5NP : accessed 2024-03-17), entry for Lewis Collins; file (2:2:2:MMXQ-KQ8), submitted 2019-12-19.

• Hathaway, J. R. B. The North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co, 1900. (Alexandria Library,University of Virginia Library); The Will of John Collins was proved during the Mar 1750 court sessions of Craven County, North Carolina. Digital copy Internet Archives

See also:

FHC - John Collins m Elizabeth Odom (sourced) https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LBJZ-4RS son of Thomas Collins 1655–1747 • MM1C-6ZJ https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LHVK-B78 Elizabeth Odom

• (unsourced) We Relate
• (unsourced) [https://www.geni.com/people/John-Collins-I/6000000027490427302 Geni
• Find A Grave [1] (Date/location Discrepancies
• [FHC Odom Research Notes of South Carolina Children

Books

• History and genealogy of the Collins family of Caroline County, Va., and related families, 1569-1954. by Collins, Herbert Ridgeway, 1932; (aka The Collins Book)
  

Searchable PDF of HRC Caroline County = https://highlanderjuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Herbert-R-Collins-History-and-Genealogy-of-the-Collins-Family-Caroline-County-VA-1569-1954.pdf

https://www.vaiden.net/collins_descendents.pdf Generation 4 p.3 Vaiden FTM; Descendants of John * Collins I (searchable pdf) (b 1569 in Maidstone, Kent County England, and died 1644 in Maidstone, Kent; County, England; married UNKNOWN. Caroline County)

• Joseph Collins & Lucy Marchbanks, their descendants (Main Author) Prewitt, Richard A. (Richard Arthur), 1940] (Most complete / sourced and consolidated info located for early Collins Families) (vs Isle of Wright)

http://www.lauderdalecountymsarchives.org/uploads/2/6/2/1/2621480/the_collins_book_-_joseph__collins__lucy_marchbanks_-_their_descendants.pdf Prewitt, Richard A. digital copy from Lauderdale MS

Acknowledgement

* WikiTree profile Collins-3549 created through the import of Misty_s ancestry.ged on Sep 16, 2012 by Misty Wood.

• Source: S-1766573297 Repository: #R-1790658744 Title: Family Data Collection - Marriages Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001. Note: APID: 1,5774::0 Repository: R-1790658744</span> Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Note:
• Source:S-1767020224 Repository: #R-1790658744 Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Note: APID: 1,4725::0
• Ancestry Family Trees (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.), Ancestry.com, Ancestry Family Tree.
• England Select Births and Christenings 1538-1975, International Find-a-Grave Index for select locations 1300's-current, London, England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1538-1812, North Carolina Wills and Probate records 1665-1998, Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1532-1812, US Find-a-Grave Index 1600's-current.