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William Collins (1772 - 1847)

William Collins
Born in Madison, Kentucky County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Died at age 74 in Madison, Kentucky, United Statesmap
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Profile Represents William Collins (abt.1772-1847) m Unknown (son of Thomas Collins and Garland / Wallace/ Trisler

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It appears that some erroneous information may have been published, and perhaps republished/reported, making the “actual facts” obscure. There is a great deal of conflicting information - Source-to-Source discrepancies; co-mingling, Lack of records; etc.

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Discrepancy

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  • Documentation for William is sketchy at best - No primary sources (unsourced IGI / Tree to Tree Copies)
  • Possible Merge once spouse is established)
  • Mother Discrepancy -- Wallace vs Garland

Contemporary Williams -- More Research Necessary (possible multiples)

  • the William Collins (b 1799 Madison Co KY died 18 Nov 1847 Howard Co MO) was son of Garland Collins and Elizabeth "Betsy" Moberly
  • Collins-22667 |William Collins (abt. 1772 - 1860) (son of Joseph and Susanna?) m (may be Joseph & Susanna Lewis co-mingled source)

NOTE: Although it has been included in Genelaogies that this Thomas Collins had a son named William Collins there is not one document proving that there was a son named William thus far.

Estate Sale and Distribution of Thomas Collins Estate 1820 18 Apr 1820 • Madison County, Kentucky Son-in-law, John Williams & Richard Moberly Admins of the Estate of Thomas Collins. NOTE: No William appears 18 Apr 1820 Estate record for purchases of the estate. Only children purchasing are named: Barbee, Garland, Thomas, John Maupin(Nancy), John Williams (Elizabeth), William Duncan (Sarah), Sylvanus Massie (Margaret) Mary/wife get shares. The only William Collins who appears in the records appears in the final settlement dated 24 Sep 1823 where one William Collins receives money for Garland Collins and Thomas Collins (This is believe to be William Collins son of Garland Collins receving for his father and his uncle Thomas who removed to MO. All the other children receive money in the final settlement.

Only one William Collins in 1810 Madison Co KY age 26-44 b 1766-1784 so he would fit but not in 1820-1830-1840 Madison Co KY census.

Others show this to be the William Collins on the 1810 Madison Co KY Census to be the William Collins born 01 Jun 1772 Pasquontack NC d Jul 1847 Shelbyville, IN

Thomas Collins m Nancy Ann Garland 22 Oct 1770 and was having children from abt 1771 - Garland, 1772 - William, 1774 - Barbee; 22 Dec 1777 -Nancy Ann and abt 1778-Elizabeth all born Albemarle Co VA. Presumed that Nancy Ann Garland Collins died in Albemarle Co VA as Thomas is recorded on records there during Rev War and married next in Albemarle Co in 1781.

Thomas Collins signed the Albemarle Co VA Declaration of Independence 21 Apr 1779

Thomas Collins m 2nd Susannah Wallace 17 Jun 1881 Albemarle Co VA and daughter Sarah is listed in 1850 Franklin Co TN census as born 1782 VA.

26 Jan 1785 Albemarle Co VA Thomas Collins is named one of the Executors of Andrew Wallace's Estate

10 Dec 1788 Albemarle Co VA Thomas Collins sells 300 acres of land on either side of Harris Creek to Edward & Thomas Garland (former brothers-in-law)

Book: History and Genealogies of the Families of Miller, Woods, Harris, Wallace, Maupin, Oldham, Kavanaugh, and Brown. With interspersions of Notes of the Families of Dabney, Reid, Martin, Broaddus, Gentry, Jarman, Jameson, Ballard, Mullins, Michie, Moberley, Covington, Browning, Duncan, Yancey and others by W. H. Miller Richmond, KY 1907 p 382

"they settled at an early date, probable prior to 1787 on Muddy Creek in Madison Co, KY"

Thomas Collins as were many pioneers were in KY building forts and homes to bring their families to at a later date.

Next the estate settlement of James Garland. William Collins is not listed as one of the grandchildren receiving a share of Nancy Ann Garland Collins portion of the estate.

These 4 Collins Children receive a portion of their mothers share: Garland Collins, Barby Collins, John Maupin (Nancy) , John Williams (Elizabeth)

(Final) Biography

William Collins son of Thomas Collins and Nancy Ann Garland|Garland-34]]

Birth

Birth Estimate 11 Sep 1772 Albemarle Co VA

Marriage

Marriage Estimate 1788-1792 -- Unknown

Death

Death Estimate (bef 1813 - Estate of James Garland he does not receive a share) - 22 Feb 1847 Madison Co KY - No Probate located to confirm or disprove children
Estimated Locations Virginia; Madison KY; Missouri?

Children

No Identified children - Estimated births 1788-1833[1]

Research Discrepancy

|Collins Cleanup Crew 2022 [ https://www.WikiTree.com/wiki/Jones-14472| Angela]

The William Collins attached to Thomas has never been verified (with actual sources). Everyone has "Estimated Dates" (b 11 Sep 1772 Madison Co KY and d 22 Feb 1847 Madison Co KY) so will look for records.
If he was born 1772 in Madison he was not the son of Garland or Wallace
if he was b VA yes but question if this William was the son of Thomas. This William should be on the 1820 1830 1840 Madison Co KY census and he is not found. Nothing verifies his birth or death date.
  • the William Collins b 1799 Madison Co KY died 18 Nov 1847 Howard Co MO was son of Garland Collins

Barbee Collins went to Franklin Co TN where he died.

(Angela TBD-- A cousin and I had planned a trip to Madison Co KY last year and Covid messed us up but once it filters out we are going to meet there and comb through the records for William. ) UPDATE: Susan Tolbert and I went to Madison Co KY Sep 2022 and found nothing that would confirm this William as the son of this Thomas Collins. Estate Records of Thomas Collins

(supported marriages) of Thomas (1745 - 1820) (Son of Thomas Collins and Elizabeth (Barbee) i.e.,

Nancy Ann (Garland) Collins — married 22 Oct 1770 in Albemarle County, Virginia
Susannah (Wallace) Collins — married 17 Jun 1781 in Albemarle County, Virginia
Mary (Barr) Trisler — married 18 Oct 1813 in Fayette County, Kentucky

Collins-19149 -- (son) William Collins (1772 - 1847) m Unknown https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/231519212/thomas-collins; dates (1783/1794-1847?)

Documentation for William is sketchy at best a comment direct on William Profile Collins-19149 re
  • Estate division of James Garland, - William is not listed among the Collins children (siblings) (Dec 1812 Albemarle Co VA) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9PC-29TF (W.B 5 p 272. (Barbee Collins, John Maupin m Nancy Collins and John Williams m Elizabeth Collins (more research necessary for supporting primary docs and who William might have married)

(sourced) [https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LTJ6-FN9 James B Garland about 1722 – 9 May 1812 • LTJ6-FN9 m Mary Helen Rice (1732]

See p 217; 386; 383 386 https://openlibrary.org/books/OL6994517M/History_and_genealogies_of_the_families_of_Miller_Woods_Harris_Wallace_Maupin_Oldham_Kavanaugh_and_B

(Could it be that William went to Mo with Barbee ?? "United States Census,
Collins-22667 |William Collins (abt. 1772 - 1860) 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5P7-5JG : 22 December 2020), William Collins, St. Clair, Missouri, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).)


Sources

Links are provided for reference and convenience only (and are considered unreliable/unproven unless sources are contained within). [1]


  1. 1.0 1.1 : Probate
    • August Term 1820 Madison Co KY Court
    • Estate Sale 18 Apr 1820 and Final Distribution of Thomas Collins Estate 23 Oct 1823 Madison County, Kentucky. William does not receive a share of estate.
    • Prewitt, Richard A. "The Collins Book (Joseph Collins & Lucy Marchbanks) (Pg 4 - 9)
    • Miller, William Harris, Digital Copy "History and genealogies of the families of Miller, Woods, Harris, Wallace, Maupin, Oldham, Kavanaugh, and Brown (Discrepancies - Use with Caution]
    See also Pedigree Resource Files:




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William Collins son of Thomas Collins

Estate of James Garland (father of Nancy Garland 1st wife of Thomas Collins) Will dated 6 Jul 1811 probated 3 Aug 1812 Albemarle Co VA Collins Legatees named: Garland Collins, Barbee Collins, John Maupin for Nancy Collins, John Williams for Betsy Collins. Due to the fact that William Collins was not given a share of Nancy Garland Collins share he is not likely hers and that he was born later and son of Susannah Wallace Collins. William is named in the estate of Thomas Collins in 1820 Madison Co KY

The children born of Nancy Garland were born 1771-1778 in Albemarle Co VA. Nancy likely was never in KY and died in VA. the first child, Sarah, of Susannah Wallace was born in Albemarle Co VA abt 1782

Estate Sale and Distribution of Thomas Collins Estate 1820 18 Apr 1820 • Madison County, Kentucky son-in-law John Williams & Richard Moberly Admins of the Estate of Thomas Collins. Legatees named: Barbee Collins, Garland Collins, Thomas Collins, William Collins, John Maupin(Nancy Collins), John Williams (Elizabeth "Betsy" Collins), William Duncan (Sarah "Sally" Collins), Sylvanus Massie (Margaret "Peggy" Collins) Mary Barr Collins /wife/widow No Zachariah Collins and Thomas Collins is not found in NC

can you share the source you have for birth/death dates of William Collins

posted by Angela (Jones) Harlan

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