Thomasine (Unknown) Furnival (1333 - 1409)

Born 1333 in England

Descendants

Died 20 Jul 1409 at about age 76 in England

Thomasine or Thomasia UNKNOWN (d. 20 Jul 1409)

Disambiguation

THOMSINE UNKNOWN is *not* to be confused with Eleanor, ONLY dau. of Thomas Dagworth and Eleanor Bohun, (see Richardson, 2011; Lewis, 2013; Roskell, Clark & Rawcliffe, 1993).

Biography

Thomasine, widow of Sir John Dagworth of Dagworth, Old Newton and Thrandeston, Suffolk ... remarried to Sir William de Furnival of Sheffield, York., Worksop, Notts.

Marriage

m.1 Sir John Dagworth of Dagworth (d. 13 Aug 1360), son of Nicholas Dagworth, esq. (c. 1306-12 Oct 1351). Issue:

• Margaret

m.2 (ante 20 Jan 1365/6) Sir William de Furnival (b. 23 Aug 1326 Alton, Staffordshire - d. 12 Apr 1383; bur. Worksop Priory, Notts). Issue: 1 dau.

• Joan (b. Oct 1368 - d. 23 May/31 Dec 1395; Worksop Priory, Notts).

m. (ante 01 July 1379) Sir Thomas Neville

Dagoworths of Suffolk and Essex

HOP -- "The Dagworths of Suffolk and Essex held the office of usher of the Exchequer for three generations before they sold it in 1358. Besides Dagworth itself and lands at Thrandeston in Suffolk, they held manors at Bradwell and Elmdon in Essex and property at Gissing in Norfolk. It seems likely that Sir Nicholas was the younger brother of Sir John Dagworth, who died in 1360 leaving as heir to these estates his infant daughter, Margaret. Several of the family holdings were retained by Sir John’s widow, Thomasina, who subsequently married William, Lord Furnival, and lived on until 1409."

Petition Against William Furnival

• Date: c. 1383
• Petitioner: Thomasina de Fornivall (Furnival), wife of William de Fornivall
• Addressees: King and council

Request: "Thomasina, wife of William de Fornivall, states that on her marriage she brought her husband rents and possessions to the value of 100 marks annually, with other money and goods and chattels to the value of 4000 marks, but that through his cruelty and harshness she has been unable to live with him for fear of her life, as is well known, although no blame attaches to her for this. She has often humbly requested her sustenance from him, as he was adjudged by law of Holy Church to give her £100 annually, but he has refused to do anything. Therefore she asks that a remedy might be ordained for her, so that she might be able to have sufficient security of peace, and a suitable maintenance."^[1]

IPM Thomasia, wife of William Furnival

Inquisition Post Mortem of Thomasia, who was wife of William Furnyvall, Chivaler, taken at Roderham, 26 Aug , 10 Hen IV [1409]^[2]. The said Thomasia held in dower, of the inheritance of Maud, daughter of Joan, daughter of the same William and Thomasia, cousin and heir of the said William, and now wife of John Talbot, one-third of the manor and lordship of Sheffeld, with the advowson of the church of Handesworth, of the king in chief, as of his crown, by the service of homage only. Thomasia died on the Feast of St. Margaret the Virgin last. The said Maud is her heir, aged 17 years and more.

Sources

1. ↑ Note: Dated on the guard to? before 1383, with reference to CFR 1377-83 p.373. It also notes 'Thomasina de Fornivall apparently a widow and fairly active in 1386 seq.', quoting CPR 1385-9 p.175 (dated at Westminster, 12 March 1386) and CPR 1385-9 p.533 (dated at Westminster, 26 November 1388).CCR 1381-5 p.279 is dated at Westminster, 9 June 1383, and the petitioner is clearly a widow by then. This petition may well date from the reign of Edward III rather than Richard II.
   Publication Note: Calendar of Close Rolls, Ric II, vol. II, 1381-1385, (Public Record Office, 1920), p.279 (order to Escheator to remove the king's hand from the lands of the late William de Furnival).
2. ↑ Inquisitions Post Mortem relating to Yorkshire, of the Reigns of Henry IV and Henry V. Baildon and Clay (Eds.). The Yorkshire Archaeological Society. Record Series. Vol. LIX. 1918, p76 [1].

• Lewis, M. (2013, July 23). "Thomasine #11882, b. c. 1333, d. 20 Jul 1409," (citing: Cokayne; Richardson). ORTNCA. Web.

• "Petitioners: Thomasina de Fornivall (Furnival), wife of William de Fornivall," (c. 1383). Ref. SC 8/46/2291. National Archives UK. Web.

• Richardson, D. (2011). Plantagenet Ancestry, 2nd ed, pp. 405-6. Google Books.

• Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). Dagworth, Sir Nicholas (d.1402), of Blickling, Norf. HOP. Web.[2]

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