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Alberic (Dammartin) de Dammartin (abt. 1138 - 1200)

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Alberic (Aubri II) "Count of Dammartin" de Dammartin formerly Dammartin aka de Luzarches
Born about in Dammartin, Ile de France, Francemap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about in Francemap
Descendants descendants
Died in Lillebonne, Normandie, Francemap [uncertain]
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Biography

While several standard sources state that Joan Basset was the mother of Alberic II, giving a rough marriage date of Alberic I and Joan as "ca 1160", even if this date is not accurate, it is patently clear that Joan could not have been Alberic II's mother. Joan Basset is known to have married twice before her marriage to Alberic I, with her second marriage occuring "ca 1152". This, combined with all other known chronology for Alberic II and his antecedents, has resulted in a change in thought among the professional genealogical community. It is now accepted that Alberic II was the son of his father's first wife. (Ref; Geneajourney 30 Nov 2014)

Alberic III de Dammartin married, firstly Joan Basset (as her third husband) ca. 1159/60. There is no known child of this marriage.

He married, secondly after 1162, Mathilde/Mahaut de Clermont, daughter of Renaud de Clermont (-en-Beauvaisis). They had several children:

Children

  1. Renaud, Count of Dammartin, who was deprived of Dammartin by Philip Augustus
  2. Simon, Count, jure uxoris, of Ponthieu
  3. Raoul
  4. Alix, wife of Jean de Trie
  5. Agnès, married Guillaume de Fiennes
  6. Clémence, married Jacques de Saint-Omer
  7. a daughter? grandmother of Enguerrand and Renaud de Picquigny (Cawley)
  8. Juliane (unproven) wife of Hugues de Gournay.

Alberic died in Lillebonne in 1200 and was buried in the abbey of Jumièges[1].


Name

Alberic (Albert) II De /Mello/

Birth

About:1135-00-00
Dammartin, Ile DE France, France[2]

Death

1200 9 19
London, England[3]

Burial

Jumieges, France[4]

Research notes

This is Alberic (Aubri) III de Danmartin, son of Alberic II and ---. The family name "Mello" would be explained by the theory that this Dammartin family would be descended from Aubry de Mello - see https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Dammartin-Montdidier#Hugues_de_Dammartin, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_de_Mello, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Dammartin. I cannot judge of the accuracy of this, but even if incorrect, it can still explain the name of Mello given to Alberic de Dammartin. Rassinot-1 21:52, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Sources

  1. Aubry II Dammartin, Charles Cawley, Medieval Lands, Paris Region - Clermont & Dammartin, Chap. 2B Comtes de Dammartin. Accessed Sept 2018
  2. Source: #S96 Data: Text: Date of Import: Jul 25, 2005
  3. Source: #S96 Data: Text: Date of Import: Jul 25, 2005
  4. Source: #S96 Data: Text: Date of Import: Jul 25, 2005
  • Source: S96 Record ID Number: MH:S96 User ID: CCD7662F-AD30-47C8-B9BC-6B348174ACE3 Title: Eula Maria McKeaig II - 061204.FTW Note: Other

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On 22 Sep 2018 at 21:54 GMT Isabelle Rassinot wrote:

Mello-34 and Dammartin-2 appear to represent the same person because: The first name, the places, the dates, the wife are similar and the Dammartin family is associated with the Mello family (see Research notes section on Mello-34). I think Mello-34 is intended to represent Alberic III de Dammartin.

On 12 May 2018 at 14:02 GMT Isabelle Rassinot wrote:

Profile represents a person who lived in the 12/13th century and should be opened. thanks !

On 12 May 2018 at 13:58 GMT Isabelle Rassinot wrote:



Aubri II is 31 degrees from Rosa Parks, 27 degrees from Anne Tichborne and 19 degrees from Victoria of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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