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Roger Daniel IV (abt. 1595 - abt. 1680)

Roger Daniel IV [uncertain]
Born about in Taunton, Dorset, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and
Brother of [half] and [half]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Father of , , , , and
Died about at about age 85 in Granville, North Carolinamap
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Biography

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~strat3926/dnl-mad/dnl-dna.html

"...Roger Daniell's home on the east end of "Mulberry island," Warwick Co.,VA, was on land inherited from Miles Cary, whose will was probated in Warwick Co., 21 July 1667. (See The Virginia Carys, p. 164-8). ..."

"...Miles Cary and Roger Daniell were related, lived in the same vicinity and probably came to Virginia about the same time, possibly with Roger Daniell's brothers Thomas and John...."

"...No will of Roger Daniell has been found, and the [sur]name of his wife isn't known...." [Her given name was Ann.]

No primary record evidence has been found that proves any living descendants of Roger Daniel. The Y DNA of the line of Roger Daniell is not proved.

Sources

  • Daniel, G. Payne, compiler. "Descendants of Roger Daniell of Warwick County, Virginia," Under the Unicorn. FL: (self pub'd), 23 Sep 2006.>




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Kevin Daniel
The Y DNA of the line of Roger Daniell is not proved. To prove the Y DNA of any line, there first must be primary record evidence which proves direct male descendants of the claimed ancestor. No one, to date, has been able to provide primary record evidence to prove that they descend from this Roger Daniell. Second, in order to prove the the Y DNA of a claimed ancestor, descendants of different sons of the claimed ancestor must be tested to prove the Y DNA of that ancestor. Y DNA testing, in the case of this Roger Daniell, is being improperly used by some compilers to create a conclusion which is not supported by any proof.
posted by Kevin Daniel
Jack Danel
"in order to prove the the Y DNA of a claimed ancestor, descendants of different sons of the claimed ancestor must be tested to prove the Y DNA of that ancestor. Y DNA testing, in the case of this Roger Daniell, is being improperly used by some compilers to create a conclusion which is not supported by any proof."

HOWEVER: there are at least 16 DNA tests from more than one Roger Daniel son descendant. AND two SNP I-A11115 positive tests.

It seems to me that the conclusion is very soundly supported indeed.

posted by Jack Danel
Kevin Daniel
Please provide the primary record evidence which proves that any of the men who took a Y DNA test descend from Roger Daniel. This forum would be a great place to post it so that there is evidence to support the claim that this line is proved. So far, there has been a two to three generation gap in primary record evidence between Roger Daniel and anyone who claims descent from him based on Y DNA testing. A descendant chart based on Y DNA testing has been circulated but there is no primary record evidence to support it.

Kevin

posted by Kevin Daniel
Kevin Daniel
As far as I am aware, claims of descent from Roger Daniell of Warwick County, Virginia are unsupported by any primary record evidence. Descendants of several distinct, unrelated Daniel lines which are proved by Y DNA evidence, all claim descent from this Roger Daniell and none can prove it, at least, no one who claims descent from him has been able to produce any primary record evidence to support such a claim. But that doesn't mean no one has done so, and I just haven't contacted the right person. So, the question is, can anyone produce primary record evidence to show that they are a direct male Daniel descendant of Roger Daniell?

The same is true for those who claim descent from John Daniel of York County, Virginia. Just substitute his name for Roger Daniell in the above comment/question.

posted by Kevin Daniel
Jack Danel
"...The Daniell Family was influential in Bristol and in Somerset Co., England, from which Roger Daniell came...."

I think that is unsupported. We have found no trace of any relatives whatsoever in England, much less influential ones.

There were other Daniel families, but they appear to be totally unrelated.

When widower Roger V, his child Roger VI and his brothers Thomas and John left England in 1654, the family became extinct there as far as we can tell.

It also raises the question as to who is his third wife, the mother of Henry, James, William and Clare.

posted by Jack Danel
Lunn-170 Jeanne (Lunn) Aloia
This may be of interest:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~strat3926/dnl-mad/dnl-dna.html

posted by Jeanne (Lunn) Aloia

Rejected matches › Roger Daniel III (1581-1652)

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