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Jean-Nicolas Darey was baptized on June 2, 1709 at Tremoins, the son of Louis Darey and Catherine Veuillamie. He married Susanne Jacot, November 12, 1743, also in Tremoins. (now in Haute-Saône department)
Bell and Punch record the many hardships these families faced prior to and during their immigration. From the treacherous trip from Montbéliard to Rotterdam to the voyage aboard the Betty, these families were constantly scammed and robbed and stripped of their belongings to ensure their trip continued. It's amazing they survived.
We have no specific information about the overland portion of Nicolas' family trip length or the hardships endured but we do know the "Betty" sailed for 68 days, one of the shorter voyages for these immigrants.
Nicolas gave his profession as "farmer" at Rotterdam. Punch states that many of the people were listed as farmers, though could very well have had some other true profession and farmed and continued their original profession in Nova Scotia.[1]
"Betty: The ship Betty (140 tons; Captain Warden) arrived at Halifax on July 14th, 1752, after having left Rotterdam, together with the Speedwell, on 17th May, 1752. One hundred and fifty-four persons came ashore with 7 having died since departing Rotterdam. A significant number of Montbeliards were aboard. cites Bell, pp. 193-4.[Bell, Winthrop Pickard (1884-1965): § President of the Nova Scotia Historical Society, 1951. One will find a very nice article on Bell, written by Terrence M. Punch, 'Even If I Cannot Finish...:' Winthrop Bell And His Register; NSHS, Journal #7 (2004).][4]
Victualing is the laying in of stores or provisions. This family is on the Victualing list for several years, 1752, 1753, 1755, 1756, 1757.[5]
Baptism | Birth | Surname | Name(s) | Parents | Comments |
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07‑07‑1753 | _____ | DARES | John Urban | John Nicholas & Susannah | also at St Paul’s Hfx |
16‑01‑1755 | _____ | DARES | Mary Margaret | John Nicholas & Susannah | _____ |
17‑04‑1756 | _____ | DARES | John Peter | John Nicholas & Susannah | _____ |
15‑03‑1758 | _____ | DARES | John George | John Nicholas & Susannah | _____ |
30‑08‑1760 | _____ | DARES | Elizabeth Margaret | John Nicholas & Susannah | _____ |
02‑05‑1762 | _____ | DARES | Mary Catherine | John Nicholas & Susannah | _____ |
03‑07‑1763 | _____ | DARES | John Christian | John Nicholas & Susannah | _____ |
04‑05‑1766 | _____ | DARES | Catherine Margaret | John Nicholas & Susannah | _____[6] |
Punch lists Jean-Nicolas as a farmer.[7]
Nocholas Daré is buried March 14, 1767. This according to St. Johns Anglican church records. [8]
No further information for this man is included in Montbéliard Emigrations and no information is included that indicates that he or his parents were Huguenot. Some of his descendants may claim Huguenot heritage through family oral traditions and lore.
Son? John Dorey in the Nova Scotia, Canada, Census, Assessment and Poll Tax Records, 1770-1795, 1827.[9]
Although there is information for a Susanne Meneagux coming to Nova Scotia aboard the Speedwell in 1752, there is no source to indicate that this Susanne Menegaux is the Susanne who lived to adulthood and married Jean Nicolas Daré. The Susanne Meneagux profile does not fit with any of the existing Menegaux families.
Jean Frederic Menegaux passed away not long after arriving and was buried in March 10, 1852. His wife Ann Geney passed away in August or September of 1752.
Their children, at the time of their parent's deaths? Catherine, the oldest died on the voyage to Nova Scotia in 1752. Jean-George died in Halifax in December of 1752, Susanne Margurite died in October of 1752 the rest of the children survived to adulthood, Elizabeth, George and Ann-Marie.[8]
The other Menegaux family of Jean George, had a Susanne as well, Susanne Catherine, but she married Matthieu Langille. And did not marry Nicolas Daré. Those are the only two possible choices for this Susanne. This profile needs to be merged into Nicolas Daré's wife Susan Jacot. Doing this will resolve the issue of disconnecting the children and reconnecting the with Susanne Jacot. This will resolve this profile since this person did not exist.
RESOLVED Susanne Menegaux is not the wife of Nicolas Dare, "Her name is reported as Susanne in a somewhat ambiguous entry in Punch's Immigration to Nova Scotia, 1749-1752, p.77, with no last name only stating that she was born in 1721 and they were married at Tremoins and that she was the daughter of Jean Jacques (no last name) and Susanne Jacot."
There is no mention of a Jean Jacques and Susanne Jacot in Punches work in the pages for the Jacot family, pp. 98, 99. On page 122, however, he identifies her, "Léoplod Frederick [Langille] = [marries] (II) 27.8.1775, Susan ~ [Baptised] 30.1.1721 at Champey + [Died] 19.4.1775, dau. of Jean-Jacques JACOT, and widow of Nicolas Daré."
Internet Trees have propagated the myth that Susanna Menegaux is the wife of Nicolas Daré. Although there is information for "a" Susanne coming to Nova Scotia aboard the Speedwell in 1752, there is no source to indicate that this Susanne "Menegaux" is the Susanne who lived to adulthood and married Jean Nicolas Dare.
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Categories: Lunenburg, Nova Scotia Colony | Foreign Protestants, Nova Scotia | Foreign Protestants, Nova Scotia, Ships, Betty
I have requested this profile be Canadian Project Protected so that future changes and merge requests can be considered thoughtfully and with the consideration of the research notes posted to the profile now. For example, someone trying to connect a Susanne Menegaux to him as a wife or adding children who are not his, etc. I have requested that all of the profile managers stay on and co-manage with the project. Thank you very much for your patience and your help as I worked through the mess that was all the duplicates and misattributed information. There is still more to do for this family moving forward and I will reach out as needed in continuing the work.
Thanks very much again,
Mags
Found him and his parents and his family in Montbélliard Emigrations to Nova Scotia, 1749-1752, p.76-77, Torrence M. Punch, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore Maryland, 2014.
The Correct Spelling is Darey at this generation, it changes to Daré later. this profile will be the final profile for ALL (there are many) of the profiles. Thanks! Mags
I also solved the mystery of Jean-Nicolas Daré;s wife - she is Susanne Jacot, not Susanne Menegeau/Mingo. Montbélliard Emigrations to Nova Scotia, 1749-1752, p. 77 Torrence M. Punch, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore Maryland, 2014. "Susanne, daughter of Jean-Jacques and Susanne Jacot"
There are lots of merges and posting of information coming. Thanks!
Mags
Working these profiles and trying to straighten out some of the GEDCOM uploads and such. I created a project for this work to align all of these profile with Punch, with back-up from Wright, Shankle and Bell. Montbéliard Project Mags
Looking at the Changes there was a merge of Daree into a Dorey which should have gone round the other way, Dorey into Daree. One of the profile managers will need to change the LNAB to Daree or Dare.
Daree also seems to be based on phonetics. Let's see if we can nail down the birth record out all the ones that are supposed to be "it". Found Baptismal transcriptions from St. John's Anglican Church and see That the name was transcribed as Dares only for this nuclear family unit. Others are transcribed as Dares/Dorey. Be interesting to see the originals...
Dare is what it is in Lunenburg, NS It is Daré as well. Not to say it should be changed today, though a discussion needs to be started.
Mags
I am working on some of the profiles in theses lines. I might do some clean-up for readability, find a few duplicates to merge and add some sources, etc. You can see changes made in the changes tab at the top of the profile.
Mags
Which name is the correct LNAB?
I found the content at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canns/lunenburg/bmd.html (be sure to use a tilde in ~canns). On http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~downeast/1CU.htm I found two birth records: "DAREY","Chris","B","1763 abt","1763-07-03","SJAL","John Nicholas & Susanna" and "DAREY","Urban","B","1753 abt","1753-07-07","SJAL","John Nicholas & Susanna". SJAL = St John's Anglican Church, Lunenburg, NS.
And on http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canns/lunenburg/shiplists.html I found "Dare, Nicolaas Betty 1752 DAREE". (Meaning that Nicolas Dare, aka Daree, arrived in 1752 on the Betty.)
Also note: This ~canns/lunenburg/bmd.html source is cited on http://genealogy.tim-ash.com/getperson.php?personID=I4123&tree=Ash