I came to Wikitree as an experienced Wikipedia contributor, with an interest in South Australian geography and history and my ancestors' places in it.
My ancestors migrated from Great Britain and Europe to South Australia between 1838 and 1876. The earliest of those had lived in Van Diemen's Land as a free settler for over five years, since leaving England in 1832.
I have discovered that the "male lines" have generally been easier to research than female ones - it has taken more effort to learn about maternal grandmothers at almost every point on my family tree.
Wood : Sarah, b. 1837, O'Brien's Bridge, Van Diemen's Land 𐂷 → Joshua Wood, b. 1793, North Hall Bridge, Leeds, Yorkshire, England ⇟ (5)
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Hi Scott, Thank you for responding to the check-in message, and for your ongoing contributions to WikiTree and the Australia Project, they are much appreciated! Most especially your great work with the cemeteries categories is much appreciated.
Hi John. Sorry I didn't notice your message more promptly.
I think I was reacting to the { {unsourced} } template, but Lorna is 7 degrees from me, so counts in my CC7. It turns out your father was my wife Leanne's grandfather's first cousin!
Hi Scott. Are you in Adelaide? I suspect your wife may be connected to the Bennetts at Bennetts Magill Potteries. It is run by another John Bennett, we have a common great great grandfather.
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Thanks very much for adding information to the profile of Ernst MacKenzie. I created these profiles with minimum information - my goal was to search for related families. The extra information is a big improvement.
No worries. I am intrigued about a German bloke with the surname Mackenzie. I didn't find enough to learn how he came to have an Irish-sounding surname.
I had ancestors on the same voyage, and he remains by far the most-remotely related passenger to me at 20 degrees (next most distant are five at 15 degrees)
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I'd like to remain a member please. I have quite a few ancestors (my mother's ancestors) who migrated from Prussia and/or Germany to South Australia about 170 years ago (mostly but not all from places presently in southwestern Poland). I have a latent interest in where they came from and why they left their home and came to Australia. I also have a more general interest in their cohort's contribution to South Australia's history.
Thank you for contributing to the family tree of Neta Heinrich (Bussenschutt-9). Neta was one of my favourite family members. While I was at boarding school in Adelaide she lived near her sister-in-law, my grandmother, born Dorothy Heinrich(-519).
Hi Steve. I have discovered I enjoy finding and making the missing connections, and at the moment, I seem to be focusing on the "old" family names of the Adelaide Plains. One branch of Bussenschutts seem to have come from the Salisbury-Penfield-Virginia area`- Neta's father was born at "Para Plains" - are you close enough to know where that means in modern places?
The Gregory Families seem to be mostly from a little further north - Hamley Bridge, Alma, Owen etc. although Neta's mother was born at Modbury and died at Paskeville. I expect to find more connections to my wife eventually as she has ancestors from both Golden Grove/Upper Dry Creek and Kulpara-Greens Plains. I am ten degrees from Neta with only my own and one other marriage (Gregory-Roberts) in the chain.
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Yes, I wish to continue in the Australia Project. I don't seem to be listed on the South Australia team, so I better contact Karyn to join that. I have 16 ancestors in the South Australia Pioneers category!
As far as other teams, I enjoyed the Connector's Challenge but not so much the Sourcerer's Challenge. I tend to add to and improve any profile I happen to read, and create the categories for locations or cemeteries as required. For example I recently saw a memorial for a young man who died in Malta from wounds incurred at Gallipoli. I created his profile and three or four others to connect him to the tree, plus the category for the locality he had come from and improved several other profiles near where his family connected.
My interest is predominantly pre-federation South Australia including my own and my wife's ancestors, their relatives, neighbours and likely friends.
Hi Scott, that all sounds marvellous. Thank you for all the great work that you do! I've added you to the South Australia team, but you might want to touch base with Karyn as well.
As shown by the red type, the Category:Gross Dammer, Posen has been completely renamed. I have moved some profiles to the new 'Groß Dammer, Meseritz, Posen, Preußen'.
This doesn't deal with all the problems you raised. 'Category: Posen, Preußen' and 'Category: Posen, Prussia' need some clean-up. I'll raise a new G2G sometime in the future.
I think that sounds like a good plan. I would aim that we shouldn't have parallel structures. Wikimedia Commons is a multilingual example with one category structure and uses templates to display the right language(s) for the reader (if it has been written).
I agree with one category structure. I have started the cleanup.
1) I have started the process to rename the category 'Gross Dammer, Posen' to the full German title 'Groß Dammer, Meseritz, Posen, Preußen'. This might take a few days.
2) I am the manager of 4 of the profiles in Meseritz(Kreis). When the renaming is complete I will move those profiles to Groß Dammer.
3) Then I will look at how to compact the parallel Posen categories.
I am quite amused. Groß Dammer was 8 km North-West(ish) of the town that used to be Bentschen. The train line between Warsaw and Berlin passes between these 2 towns. I took this train in 2018. Without knowing it, I had passed within 3 km of Groß Dammer.
Thanks Steve. Should the category name be full four levels of name, or just "Groß Dammer, Meseritz" or "Groß Dammer, Posen" if that is unique? We don't use 3-4 level category names here (but we do for birth/marriage/death places in the data fields).
More than half my immigrant ancestors came from this area (Posen, Eastern Brandenburg, Silesia), and I have not been close to it (yet). I visited England and Scotland almost 20 years ago, and it looks like I went close to where a couple of my British ancestors might have been, but that was well before I knew that, and we didn't go near the previous home of the few I knew about then.
The normal standard could be either "Groß Dammer, Meseritz" or "Groß Dammer, Posen". There aren't any other Groß Dammer, so I would prefer "Groß Dammer, Posen",
This was an exceptional case. I have only added the 4 levels for reference of anyone looking at this example. It serves as a model for the location fields.
[More explanation added 14 hours later. This 4 level category name sets the gold standard for the location field. The silver standards are the minor variations in German and English. "Gross Dammer, Meseritz, Preussen", "Gross Dammer, Meseritz, Prussia".
I do not worry about most variations in the location field unless they are clearly wrong. "Gross Dammer near Bentschen" is correct and may be helpful to that Profile Manager. In South Australia I will defend the location "White Hut near Clare" in https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lindner-709.]
When the dust settles this entire discussion stream can be archived and de-clutter your profile.
P.S. did anyone mention that I am the Team Leader for Prussia in the Wikitree Germany Project?
Thanks Steve. It looks like you have done some good work there. I think I spotted a couple of "my" profiles in the list. Possibly others would be in the groups that aren't named as someone wasn't sure if they were committed Old Lutherans.
It is going to take me some time to answer your question about parallel categories.
Gross Dammer was about 8 km West of Bentschen in the Prussian province of Posen.
Around 1900 this region was predominantly German speaking. Wikipedia contains interesting history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zb%C4%85szy%C5%84
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I also seem to have picked up some contribution in the Notables area, so that is likely to continue.
Cheers, Scott
Thanks in particular for all your help with SA categories.
We look forward to 2025 being a great year on WikiTree!
Regards, Margaret
I haven't heard from Brian Obst recently but this one sparked his attention.
Please note the concentration of German descendants near Albury/Wodonga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_diaspora#/media/File:Australian_Census_2011_demographic_map_-_Australia_by_SLA_-_BCP_field_1096_German_Total_Responses.svg
edited by Steve Thomas
Thank you so much for joining the Southern Cross Stars for the Connect-a-Thon this weekend. There is information on the Southern Cross Stars page, and our chat post at https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1682615 . We'll be chatting during the Thon on the new Aussie Challenge Teams channel. You can message me any time if you have any other questions. I'm always happy to help! Gillian, Southern Cross Stars Team Leader
We're contacting you for the annual Australia Project membership checkin. We really appreciate your involvement in the Project in the last year. Thank you so much for all your help to improve Australian profiles on WikiTree.
Please could you reply to this message, or send me a private message to let us know if you'd like to stay on in the Project, and if you'd like to make any changes to the teams that you belong to. The teams are listed on Australia Project Teams.
If you've moved on to other things for the moment, that's absolutely fine. We'd appreciate if you'd let us know so that we can remove you from the membership list.
We're always happy to receive any ideas or suggestions that you have to make our project even better.
Looking forward to hearing from you!
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Scott
Regards, Margaret
I think I was reacting to the { {unsourced} } template, but Lorna is 7 degrees from me, so counts in my CC7. It turns out your father was my wife Leanne's grandfather's first cousin!
Scott
edited by Scott Davis
John
Leanne's grandfather was Laurie Harkness (1909-1982), so the connection is through your grandmother.
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Thanks very much for adding information to the profile of Ernst MacKenzie. I created these profiles with minimum information - my goal was to search for related families. The extra information is a big improvement.
I had ancestors on the same voyage, and he remains by far the most-remotely related passenger to me at 20 degrees (next most distant are five at 15 degrees)
it's annual check-in time 2023. If you still wish to remain a member of the Germany Project, please reply to this post, by stating this intention. If we don’t hear from you in the next 30 days, your membership badge will be removed. In this case please don't be offended ... you're welcome to rejoin at any time. Please also note, that in order to receive help, with researching your German ancestors, membership is not mandatory. Just ask your questions in the G2G forum and tag them with Germany in order for knowledgeable people to see them.
If you wish to remain a member, we would like to learn more about your perception of the Germany Project in order to achieve a future development according to our members needs and wishes. For this, we created a survey, which we kindly ask you to fill-in.
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Kind regards from Black Forest
I'd like to remain a member please. I have quite a few ancestors (my mother's ancestors) who migrated from Prussia and/or Germany to South Australia about 170 years ago (mostly but not all from places presently in southwestern Poland). I have a latent interest in where they came from and why they left their home and came to Australia. I also have a more general interest in their cohort's contribution to South Australia's history.
I don't speak or read German.
I've completed the survey.
Thanks, Scott
Thank you for contributing to the family tree of Neta Heinrich (Bussenschutt-9). Neta was one of my favourite family members. While I was at boarding school in Adelaide she lived near her sister-in-law, my grandmother, born Dorothy Heinrich(-519).
Cheers, Steve.
edited by Steve Thomas
The Gregory Families seem to be mostly from a little further north - Hamley Bridge, Alma, Owen etc. although Neta's mother was born at Modbury and died at Paskeville. I expect to find more connections to my wife eventually as she has ancestors from both Golden Grove/Upper Dry Creek and Kulpara-Greens Plains. I am ten degrees from Neta with only my own and one other marriage (Gregory-Roberts) in the chain.
It's time for the annual Australia Project membership checkin. Thank you so much for contributing to the project and Australian profiles on WikiTree during the last year. We really appreciate you!
If you would like to stay in the project, please reply to this message or send me a private message to let us know that you would like to stay on. Alternatively, if your WikiTree and research interests have moved away from Australia, please let us know and we can remove you from the membership list for the moment. You will, of course, be very welcome to rejoin the project down the track whenever you want to.
We are also keen to know if you want to make any changes to the team or teams that you want to focus on. Take a look on Australia Project Teams to see what teams there are to choose from. If you want to discuss this, or have any questions or suggestions about the Australia Project we'd love to hear your ideas.
Thanks for taking the time to get back to us!
Gillian, co-Leader, Australia Project
Yes, I wish to continue in the Australia Project. I don't seem to be listed on the South Australia team, so I better contact Karyn to join that. I have 16 ancestors in the South Australia Pioneers category!
As far as other teams, I enjoyed the Connector's Challenge but not so much the Sourcerer's Challenge. I tend to add to and improve any profile I happen to read, and create the categories for locations or cemeteries as required. For example I recently saw a memorial for a young man who died in Malta from wounds incurred at Gallipoli. I created his profile and three or four others to connect him to the tree, plus the category for the locality he had come from and improved several other profiles near where his family connected.
My interest is predominantly pre-federation South Australia including my own and my wife's ancestors, their relatives, neighbours and likely friends.
Scott
As shown by the red type, the Category:Gross Dammer, Posen has been completely renamed. I have moved some profiles to the new 'Groß Dammer, Meseritz, Posen, Preußen'.
This doesn't deal with all the problems you raised. 'Category: Posen, Preußen' and 'Category: Posen, Prussia' need some clean-up. I'll raise a new G2G sometime in the future.
Regards, Steve.
edited by Steve Thomas
Rather than confuse the whole discussion, I want to clear up a small point.
I will support the location category structure under Category: Preußen. In the formal structure the appropriate spelling includes "ß" and umlaut. Category:Meseritz_(Kreis),_Posen fits comfortably inside this structure, Category:Posen,_Prussia does not fit as well. One part of the cleanup is to remove Posen, Prussia as a parent for Category:Gross_Dammer,_Posen. Is that OK?
Regards, Steve
edited by Steve Thomas
1) I have started the process to rename the category 'Gross Dammer, Posen' to the full German title 'Groß Dammer, Meseritz, Posen, Preußen'. This might take a few days. 2) I am the manager of 4 of the profiles in Meseritz(Kreis). When the renaming is complete I will move those profiles to Groß Dammer. 3) Then I will look at how to compact the parallel Posen categories.
I am quite amused. Groß Dammer was 8 km North-West(ish) of the town that used to be Bentschen. The train line between Warsaw and Berlin passes between these 2 towns. I took this train in 2018. Without knowing it, I had passed within 3 km of Groß Dammer.
More than half my immigrant ancestors came from this area (Posen, Eastern Brandenburg, Silesia), and I have not been close to it (yet). I visited England and Scotland almost 20 years ago, and it looks like I went close to where a couple of my British ancestors might have been, but that was well before I knew that, and we didn't go near the previous home of the few I knew about then.
This was an exceptional case. I have only added the 4 levels for reference of anyone looking at this example. It serves as a model for the location fields.
[More explanation added 14 hours later. This 4 level category name sets the gold standard for the location field. The silver standards are the minor variations in German and English. "Gross Dammer, Meseritz, Preussen", "Gross Dammer, Meseritz, Prussia". I do not worry about most variations in the location field unless they are clearly wrong. "Gross Dammer near Bentschen" is correct and may be helpful to that Profile Manager. In South Australia I will defend the location "White Hut near Clare" in https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lindner-709.]
When the dust settles this entire discussion stream can be archived and de-clutter your profile.
P.S. did anyone mention that I am the Team Leader for Prussia in the Wikitree Germany Project?
edited by Steve Thomas
It is going to take me some time to answer your question about parallel categories. Gross Dammer was about 8 km West of Bentschen in the Prussian province of Posen. Around 1900 this region was predominantly German speaking. Wikipedia contains interesting history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zb%C4%85szy%C5%84
Cheers, Steve.
edited by Steve Thomas