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Unknown Day (abt. 1624 - 1657)

Unknown (John) Day
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Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1640 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 33 in Isle of Wight, Isle of Wight, Colony of Virginiamap
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THIS PROFILE POSSIBLY CONFLATES POORLY SOURCED INFORMATION ABOUT MORE THAN ONE JOHN DAY. I AM DOING MAJOR EDITORIAL WORK ON THIS PROFILE AT THE MOMENT, AND ASK THAT NO OTHER EDITS BE MADE UNTIL I AM DONE. IF THIS NOTICE IS STILL HERE ON APRIL 30, PLEASE ALERT ME! i MAY HAVE GOTTEN DISTRACTED, AS OFTEN HAPPENS WITH GENEALOGY! Day-1904 17:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Biography

This is the profile of an Unknown Day who was the father of Elizabeth Day who married Charles Molloy.

The Marriage Application

On 13 December 1670, Elizabeth Day, age 19, "spinster" and Charles Molloy of Lincoln's Inn, Esq, "bachelor", sought a marriage license. Elizabeth's father was dead, and she had consent of her mother, who was now the wife of Luke Cropley, of St Peter le Poor, London, Gent; at Barnet of Hadley, Herts. [1]

From the above information can be learned that:

  • Elizabeth was born about 1651.
  • Elizabeth's father had the same Day surname as Elizabeth.
  • Elizabeth's father was deceased and her mother was now married to Luke Cropley, a gentleman who lived in the parish of St. Peter le Poor in London.
  • She married in England to Charles Molloy, a lawyer, who lived in England at the time.
  • The marriage would take place in Hadley, Hertfordshire, a location that presumably had some connection to the bride or groom's family.

Birth

Based on his daughter Elizabeth's birth about 1651, estimate her father's birth as 1625. [1]

1650 Marriage

Since Elizabeth was born about 1651, estimate her parents' marriage as no later than 1650 [1]

1660 Death

At the time of Elizabeth's wedding, her father was deceased. Her mother was married to Luke Cropley (as of 1668) and had been previously married to Thomas Bland (as of 1663). Divorce being extremely rare in this period, it may be assumed that Elizabeth's father died before 1663, say 1660. [1]

Children

Unknown Day was the father of Elizabeth Day, born about 1651. [1]

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Mary Day possibly wife of James Day of IOW.

The will of a John Baynton bound for Virginia and intending to return mentions a Mary Day, which I suppose may be the wife of James Day of IOW. Link: https://www.jstor.org/stable/4243053

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1695 James Day witness to Peter Baynton sale

Relation to said John Baynton not known, but James Day witnesses a deed of a James Baynton in IOW in 1695.

9 April 1695. Isle of Wight County, Virginia. Thomas Thropp and wife Martha Thropp, to Peter Baynton, 100 acres, on James River … which was escheated by said Thomas Thropp in 1694 and bounded by Capt. John Goodrich and said Thropp. Wit.: James Day, Henry Baker.

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Dec. 13, 1670, marriage: Charles Mollory of Lincoln’s Inn, Esq., Bach., 24, & Elizabeth Day, Sept. 19, her father dead; consent of her mother, now wife of Luke Cropley, of St. Peter le Poor, London, Gent.; at Barnet or Hadley, Herts. Link: https://archive.org/stream/marriagelicence00chester/marriagelicence00chester_djvu.txt

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Biography of John Day Husband of Mary Bennett

This is the profile of a fictional person given the name John Day which will be submitted for Disproven Existence.

Rupert Taylor has proved that Mary Bennett (Bland, Cropley) is not the mother of James Day of Isle of Wight County. Therefore she did not have a first marriage to an unnamed fictional Day, subsequently given the name John.

Research Notes

John Day was believed to be the first husband of Mary Bennett. John Bennett Bodie writes in Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight County, Virginia, "Mary Gennett, married first, -------Day, secondly Thomas Bland, and on the 12th of September, 1668, ":Mary Bland, widow, aged 326, married Luke Cropley, aged 35." [2]

Writer Liberato estimated that John Day was born about 1624 and died in 1657 in Virginia. [3]

The Sons of the American Revolution have an entry for this John Day [4]

Liberato shows that in Rappahannock County, Virginia, he married Mary Bennett, born 1632 in Stepney, Middlesex, England. She died in 1690 in Rappahannock County., Virginia. [3]


Hoyt shows John Day married Mary Bennett, daughter of Edward and Mary (Bourne) Bennett. In 1622 Edward Bennett established the first permanent plantation in the new colony, called Bennett’s Welcome, of 1500 acres that was granted to him in 1621.[5]

This goes on Mary Bennett's page: John’s wife, Mary Bennett, was born about 1623. She was born in Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England. [6]. However, other material reports her birth in Stepney, Middlesex, England [5]

A John Day receiving a land grant

Children of John Day and Mary Bennett

Daughter Mary Day

Liberato shows children of John Day and Mary Bennett.

Known children of John Day and Mary Bennett

  1. Mary DAY b. 1644 VA, [3] I have found marriage records of Mary Day to Thomas Bland 1758, then Mary Bland to Luke Cropley 1668 both in England. It is my belief that all her children were born in England and also believe James Day was the only one who went to America. [5]

Who is the Mary Day in John Baynton's will?

A Mary Day is listed in the 1688 will of John Baynton, which he wrote while en route from Bristol to Virginia. Mary Day is to receive £3. The will includes no clues as to Mary Day's identity. From this we know that John Baynton believed Mary Day to be alive in 1688, that Mary Day was probably in either Bristol or Virginia, and that John Baynton had some reason to bequeath her £3. [7]

Daughter Anne Day Chapman

  1. Anne Day b. 1645-1658 VA mar Charles CHAPMAN b. 1640-1655,
  1. Anne Bennett Day, b. 1656 in London, England, d. 1736 in England. She married Charles Chapman 1676 in London, England. I'm not sure that Charles Chapman and wife Ann Day came to America, I can't find their passage, nor can I find Charles Molloy and wife Elizabeth Day. [5]

Daughter Elizabeth Day

  1. Elizabeth DAY b. 1645-1658 VA mar Thomas SWANN b. 1640-1655. #Elizabeth Day, born 1651 in England. She married Charles Molloy 1670 in Hertford, England. [5] On 13 December 1670, Elizabeth Day, age 19, "spinster" and Charles Molloy of Lincoln's Inn, Esq, "bachelor", sought a marriage license. Elizabeth's father was dead, and she had consent of her mother, who was now the wife of Luke Cropley, of St Peter le Poor, London, Gent; at Barnet of Hadley, Herts. [1]

Son James Day

  1. James Day, Sr. b. abt 1645-1658 VA mar Mary THOMPSON b. 1647-1661 VA. # James Day Capt., b. abt 1657 in England, d. Dec 1700 in Isle of Wight, Virginia, USA. He came to America and married Mary Thompson and died there in 1700 leaving 3 sons and a daughter, his wife married John Johnson and then Rueben Gladhill. [5]


Profile for Descent from 1743 John Day and Betty Wentworth

  1. John & Betty had David DAY b. 1743-1770 VA mar Priscilla Sugars BLOUNT.
  2. David & Priscilla had 2 sons, Thomas Ridley DAY b. 1791 VA mar Edith BALLARD.
  3. Thomas & Edith had a daughter, Lydia DAY b. 1818 VA mar William Walter Eley, Sr. [3]

William Henry DAY, son of David and Priscilla, b. 1801 VA mar Amanda M. F. CHAMBLIS.

  1. William Henry & Amanda had 3 sons: Charles Fenton DAY b. 1848 mar Virginia E. JORDAN-had dau Lucy DAY b. 1874; William Henry DAY, Jr. b. 1850 VA; & Henry Mason DAY, Sr. b. 1851 VA mar Emily GARNETT-had 4 known children:Henry Mason DAY, Jr. b. 1886 VA; Georgia Wayne (female) DAY b. abt 1888 VA; Emily Sutton DAY b. abt 1890 VA; & Garnett DAY b. abt 1892]), [3]

A Request

Hello Jack Day. While looking at the profile of John Day who was married to Mary Bennett, I noticed that there was a mistake made towards the bottom where the descendants are listed. The list says that William Henry had 3 sons with his wife Amanda. This is true but it does not mention his first son William Chilton Day (1841) he had with his first wife Phoebe Scott Chilton. This is the line I am descended from and was wondering if it could be added?

Untangling two John Days from the same time, same place

There were at least two John Days whose lives overlapped in Virginia's earliest days.

  • John Day and his wife Elizabeth Mason arrived at Jamestown in 1620. He had been born in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, 12 October 1597, and died 1664 in Gloucester County. They had a son Lewis.
  • John Day and his wife Mary Bennett are associated with Isle of Wight. He died there April 1, 1701. They had children Elizabeth, John, Anne and James.

John Day Transported by John Slaughter

"In the case of John Day some uncertainty arises. Apparently there were two men of this name in the colony, one transported by John Slaughter, and the other not only paying for his own passage, but for that of a servant as well. [8] A John Day later secured 400 acres in Gloucester county [9] but whether it was the one who had come as a servant or the one who had entered the colony as a freeman, apparently there is no way of ascertaining. [10]

Was this John Day who died in England the same John?

He was born in England in 1628. [11]

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He married Mary Bennett, born 1623 [12]

Some sources shown this John to be the son of a "John Day who came to Virginia in 1620 and worked as a mastersmith and carpenter having several sons, one being John Day II who almost everyone has his wife as Mary Bennett daughter of Edward Bennett merchant and land owner who is probably a very wealthy person. The "Upper Class" back then as today didn't approve of their children mixing with the "Lower Class". My question is would Mary Bennett "daughter of a wealthy merchant" be allowed to marry John Day "son of a blacksmith"? Hoyt Day [5]

Children

  1. Elizabeth Day, born in England in 1651
  2. John Day, born in Fulham, Middlesex, England, 1653
  3. Anne Bennett Day (1656-1736) born in London, England
  4. James Day Capt. 1657–1700

Sources

  • Historical Southern Families. Volume VII
  • London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
  • Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1532-1812
  • U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
  • UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current

Was he the son of John and Elizabeth Mason Day?

NOTE: ELIZABETH MASON IS A FRAUD

Our Day family in the U.S. starts with John DAY b. 1597 Eng. who married Elizabeth MASON b. abt 1600 Eng. [3] Their children:

  1. John DAY (b. abt 1624, mar. Mary BENNETT),
  2. Lewis DAY (1st one) (b. & d. 1620),
  3. Elizabeth DAY (b. abt 1626 mar Charles MOLLOY),
  4. Sarah DAY (b. abt 1628),
  5. James DAY (b. abt 1630 mar Mary THOMPSON),
  6. Thomas DAY (b. abt 1632),
  7. Henry DAY (b. abt 1634),
  8. Peter DAY (b. abt 1636),
  9. Lewis DAY (2nd one)(b. 1638).

I think this John Day was born in England and came to America for business and to get land he died in England in 1757. I don't believe he was son of John and Elizabeth Mason Day. Hoyt Day [5]

Did John Day die in England?

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Allegations for Marriage Licenses Issued From the Faculty Office of the Archbishop of Canterbury at London 1542 to 1869" Page 116 London: The Harleian Society, 1886. Accessed 30 March 2024 jhd
  2. Boddie, 279.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 Jeanne Liberato (quickdocs3 AT aol.com) Day Family Genealogy, Day-L AT rootsweb.com, 26 May, 2003, http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DAY/2003-05/1054005884
  4. Ancestry.com. http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=sarmemberapps&h=474065&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Residence date: Residence place: United States APID: 1,2204::474065, Title: U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.Original data - Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls Note: APID: 1,2204::0
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.7 Hoyt Day Family Tree, Ancestry.com http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9571933/person/-725814671. Accessed December 7, 2014.
  6. Wikipedia, "Edward Bennett"
  7. Virginia Historical Society Virginia Gleanings in England in The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, April 1910. Vol 18, No. 2 (Apr 1910) pp. 177-181
  8. Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol 5, p. 101, cited by Wertenbaker, p. 80
  9. W. A. Crozier, Virginia County Records, Vol VII, p. 177, cited by Wertenbaker, p. 80
  10. Thomas Jefferson Wertenbaker, The Planters of Colonial Virginia. Princeton University Press, 1922. P. 80
  11. John Day was born in 1628 in England. <ref> newsource </li> <li id="_note-day1933">↑ <sup>[[#_ref-day1933_0|12.0]]</sup> <sup>[[#_ref-day1933_1|12.1]]</sup> Hoyt Day [https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/9571933/person/-725814671/facts Hoyt Day Family Tree] Accessed 15 February 2024 [[Day-1904|jhd]] </li></ol></ref>

Bibliography of Frequently Cited Works

  • Boddie, John Bennett Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight County Virginia (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1973)
  • Taylor, Rupert (1935). The Parentage of James Day (Died 1700) and Wife Mary of Isle of Wight County, Virginia. Genealogies of Virginia Families, pages 542-545, reprinted from Tyler's Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Vol XVI (1935), 239-242. Alternately, from The Parentage of James Day (died 1700) and wife Mary of isle of wight County, Virginia Baltimore: Clearfield Publishing Company, 2007, from Genealogical Publishing Company, 1981. Pages 542-545. Accessed February 16, 2023 jhd. </ref>
  • Taylor, Rupert (1937). “The Parentage of the First James Day of Isle of Wight County, His Wife, Mary, and the First Wife of their Son James.” Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 45, No. 2 (1937).
  • Wertenbaker, Thomas Jefferson, The Planters of Colonial Virginia. Princeton University Press, 1922. P. 80




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