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Walter Welles (1087 - 1118)

Walter Welles
Born in Well, Lincolnshire, Englandmap
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[spouse(s) unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 31 in Englandmap
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Biography

Walter's father Ravemer was tenant of Gilbert of Gaunt (de Gand or de Gant) in 1086, in Domesday Book.

In the Lindsey Survey of 1115/18 Walter the son of Ragemer was tenant of Walter de Gand in Aisthorp and the sons of Ragemer are tenants of Walter in Calcewath wapentake, where Walter son of Rag also holds land in Maltby under Gilbert son of Goscelin.[1] The names of his brother or brothers were not mentioned in this document.

In 1129/30 the only surviving Pipe Roll of that time notes under Lincolnshire that "Walter son of Raemer [Walterus filius Raemeri] renders account of 60 s. 4 d. that he might not be disseised of his land. And for 30 silver marks for the land of Gilbert his brother." [Translation of Judith A. Green.][2]

Walter's wife is unknown, but two sons can be named,

  1. William fitz Walter de Welle. He married a sister of Gilbert de Gand, earl of Lincoln, and their daughter married Robert de Tattersall, had 10 sons, and was 50 in 1185, according to Round's edition of the Rotuli de dominabus et pueris et puellis.[3]
  2. Humphrey fitz Walter de Welle. As noted by Massingberd:[4]
A charter [temp. H. II.] of William son of Walter de Welle to Sempringham (Genealogist , Oct., 1899) is difficult to understand, as, while he states that he makes the grant with the assent of Robert his heir, he adds that his brother Humphrey demised the lands to Sempringham “cum tribus filiabus suis imperpetuum tenendas per servicium dimidii militis denarios donando michi vel heredi meo et acquietando Umfridum heredem meum.”
Massingberd names Humphrey's wife as Alice, daughter of Robert , son of Gilbert de Lekeburn. He also names several children: Walter, who was son and heir in 1202, Richard, Thomas, Harold, and 3 daughters.

Sources

  1. Lindsey Survey, Lincoln Record Society vol.19, p.242,p.254
  2. J. A. Green, The great roll of the pipe for the thirty first year of the reign of King Henry I, Michaelmas 1130 (Pipe Roll Society, new series 57, 2012)
  3. J. H. Round, Rotuli de dominabus et pueris et puellis, p.5, p.9, p.11.
  4. W. O. Massingberd, Lincolnshire Notes and Queries, vol. vi, pp. 54-57. https://archive.org/details/lincolnshirenote6190unse/page/54/mode/2up




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I suspect that the mother is wrong. Does anyone know of any source for her?
posted on DeWelle-2 (merged) by Andrew Lancaster
Walter and brother Gilbert 9q.v.) occur in the Lindsey Survey of 1115/18 and in 1129/30.
posted on DeWelle-2 (merged) by Tamara (Killian) Ledkins

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