Joan (Clifford) Musgrave (bef. 1446 - 1491)

Born before 1446 in England

Ancestors

Wife of Richard Musgrave — married about 1460 in England

Descendants

Died 10 Aug 1491 after age 45 in England

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Joan Clifford was a member of the aristocracy in British Isles.

Biography

Father Sir Thomas Clifford, 8th Lord Clifford, Sheriff of Westmoreland b. 25 Mar 1414, d. 22 May 1455

Mother Joan Dacre^[1] d. b May 1453

Joan Clifford married Sir Simon Musgrave, son of Thomas Musgrave and Johanna Stapleton.^[2]

Family

• Sir Simon Musgrave d. 10 Aug 1491

Child

• Sir Edward Musgrave b. c 1461, d. 23 May 1542

(m a Musgrave). Collins says "Simon Musgrave".^[3]

Such a Joan appears in Musgrave pedigrees marrying a Sir Richard. For example here. Cracrofts page also calls him Sir Richard.

Parentage

She is sometimes shown as the daughter of Richard Fiennes, however, there is no record he had such a daughter. ^[4]

Her parents have a daughter Joan, but not a separate daughter Jane, so they two may well be one. However, there is not enough data yet about either to determine if the two should be merged or not.

Notes

Husband appears in some pedigrees as "Simon Musgrave" and sometimes John. But Joan appears in Musgrave pedigrees marrying a Sir Richard. For example here. Cracrofts page and Foster visitation also calls him Sir Richard.

Sources

1. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 216
2. ↑ The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IX, p. 438
3. ↑ https://books.google.be/books?id=yFI5AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA517
4. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Volume II, p. 581, Entry for Richard Fiennes.

• Marlyn_Lewis
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Clifford,_8th_Baron_de_Clifford
• Clifford Pedigree: Descent of the Barony of Clifford