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Roger (Toeni) de Tony (abt. 1235 - bef. 1264)

Roger (Roger V) "of Flamstead" de Tony formerly Toeni aka de Toeni
Born about in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married after 30 Jun 1239 [location unknown]
Husband of — married after 1255 [location unknown]
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Died before before about age 28 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire , Englandmap
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Biography

"Roger de Tony, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, Brinkley, Kirtling, Long Stanton, and Whittlesford, Cambridgeshire, Bliston, Carnonton (in Mawgan), and Helston, Cornwall, Walthamstow, Essex, Monnington and Winforton, Hereforedshire, Garsington, Oxfordshire, Painstscastle, Radnorshire, Stratford Tony, Wiltshire, Elmkey Lovett, Worcestershire, etc., 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir." [1]

Names

Roger de Tony
Roger de Toeni
Roger de Tosney
Name: Roger (Ralph) De Tonee (Toeni)
Surname: Tonee (Toeni)
Given Name: Roger (Ralph) De

Birth and Parentage

Roger was born about 29 Sept 1235 (minor in 1251, came of age in 1256). [1]

~1230, Alice born in England, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Maud de Eu.

9/29/1235, Roger de Toeni born in England, heir & 2nd son of Baron Ralph de Tosny and Pernel de Lacy.

1239, Roger’s father Ralph de Tony, Knt., died at sea on his way to the Holy Land.[2]

Roger became a ward to Humphrey de Bohun.

1239 Marriage to Alice de Bohun

He married by agreement dated 30 June 1239 Alice de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Knt, Earl of Hereford and Essex, by his first wife, Maud, daughter of Raoul (or Ralph) d'Exoudun (or d'Issoudun), Count of Eu. Her maritagium included the manors of Newton Tony and East Coulston, Wiltshire.[1]

6/30/1239, agreement for Alice to marry Roger de Tony, Baron of Flamstead, Hertfordshire.

1242 Queen Eleanor Assumes Custody of Roger's Lands

4/26/1242, Grant to Queen Eleanor of the custody, during the minority of the heir, of the lands of Ralph de Tony, to receive in her wardrobe all the issues thereof, with the wards and escheats belonging thereto.[3]
10/15/1242, the Earl of Hereford & Wessex was ordered to deliver Paincastle to Roger, who held it by knight’s service.[citation needed]
6/20/1251, Memorandum … the Earl [H. de Boun, Earl of Essex and Hereford] … keep during the minority of Roger son and heir of Ralph de Thoeny. When he comes of age the Earl will restore it [Painscastle] to the king to surrender to the heir.[4]

Issue

They had one son, Ralph, Knt, and one daughter, Alice. His wife, Alice, was living in 1255. At her death, she was buried in Llanthony Abbey outside Gloucester.[1]

4/26/1242, Grant to Queen Eleanor of the custody, during the minority of the heir, of the lands of Ralph de Tony, to receive in her wardrobe all the issues thereof, with the wards and escheats belonging thereto. (S) Epistolae: Women’s Biography, Eleanor of Provence.

10/15/1242, the earl of Hereford & Wessex was ordered to deliver Paincastle to Roger, who held it by knight’s service.

6/20/1251, Memorandum … the Earl [H. de Boun, Earl of Essex and Hereford] … keep during the minority of Roger son and heir of Ralph de Thoeny, when he comes of age the Earl will restore it [Painscastle] to the king to surrender to the heir. [4]

1254, Roger married Alice.

1255, Alice living.

1255 Marriage to Isabel

He married (2nd) after 1255 Isabel. By an uncertain wife, he also had a son, Geoffrey.[1]

Roger married 2nd Isabel ?. [1 son, Geoffrey.]

1261, Roger, son of Ralph de Tony, grants the manor of Itton, alias South Tawton, to Moyhon in marriage. [5]

1256 Hunting

10/21/1255, Grant … the king’s gift by reason of his wardship of the lands of Roger de Thoney. [4]

12/8/1256, Roger had license to hunt in multiple counties with his own dogs, the hare, the fox, the cat and the badger. [4]

In 1256 Roger had license to hunt with his own dogs the hare, fox, cat, and badger in Cos. Southampton, Somerset, Dorset, and Wilts.[1]

Public Activity

10/15/1256, Mandate to William de Sancto Omero and Pernell de Thoeny his wife to restore to Roger de Thony, son and heir of Ralph de Thony, who is of full age and has done homage … his lands, charters, … in the keeping of the said Pernell. [4]

10/1257, Roger went to Wales with Edward the king’s son and was among those asked to meet the king in London with all the service they owed.

6/28/1258, Commission of oyer … touching trespasses and excesses committed against Roger de Mortuo Mari … in the parts of Wales by Roger de Thony, [4]

~1259, Grant of Roger, son of Ralph of Tony to William of Mohun, son of the Lord of Mohun. Marriage of William and Juliana, Roger's relation Premises: £10.13s. annual rent in the manor of South Tawton. [6]

10/28/1259, Of those who are crossing with the king to France and have protection … Roger de Thony, the elder … (S) CPRs. [French King Louis and Queen Margaret hosted a family Christmas gathering in Paris that included King Henry III and Queen Eleanor. Margaret and Eleanor were sisters.]

1260, Roger patron of Brinkley church. [7]

1261 Law Suit

In 1260-1 Robert Stocumbe and Joan his wife sued Roger de Tony and others for two-thirds of the manor of Elmley, Worcestershire which they claimed as Joan's dower and the rest in compensation for the stewardship for a third part of Roger's lands. Roger pleased that Joan merely held the manor as custodian of Henry son of Henry Lovet.[1]

1262 Presentation to Church

In 1262 he presented to the church in South Tawton, Devon. He was crossing with the Queen beyond seas in 1262.[1]

1262 Action against Llywelyn

He was summoned to be at Hereford Feb 1262/3 for action against llywelyn. He adhered to King Henry III against the Barons.[1]

1262 Transactions with Sir Ralph de Arundel

1/27/1264, “Receipt of homage, and remission of rent. Roger de Tony, lord of Karneton = (1). Sir Ralph de Arundel = (2). Receipt by (1) of the homage of (2) for 1/2 acre of land in Retthelec.” [6]

1264 Death

Roger de Tony died shortly before 12 May 1264. In 1264 his castle of Kirtling, Cambridgeshire was committed by the barons during pleasure to Henry de Hastings.

1264 Public Record of widow Isabel

In 1264 the inhabitants of Flamstead, Hertfordshire complained to the king of the oppression of his widow, isabel, who had exacted from them services to which they had been unaccustomed. About 1270, on the king's instructions, she remitted and quitclaimed to Randulf de Arundel 8d. rent in Reshelec (in Roche), Cornwall which she claimed during her widowhood.[1]

5/12/1264, Grant to Edmund the king’s son of the wardship of the castles and lands of Roger de Tony, tenant in chief, … dowers when they fall in … Humphrey de Bohun, earl of Hereford, the marriage of the heirs … to Isabel, late the wife of the said Roger her dower, … the said Edmund of the marriage of the said Isabel, or the fine which she will make for the same. [4]

1264, “Roger de Tony alias de Thony: Wales: Painscastle with the appurtenant honour; Devon: South Tawton manor with advowson; Norfolk: Necton manor; Necton, Little Fransham, Little Cressingham, Westacre, Godwick, Sparham, Bodney, Shingham, Downham, Gutland, Hales, Little Fransham, Great Cressingham, Little Cressingham, Wrotham, North Wrotham; [Essex]: Walthamstow manor; Hertfordshire: Flamstead manor” died. [6] [8]

2/1265, Isabel living.

~1270, Quitclaim of rent Isabel who was wife of Roger de Thony. Randulf de Arundel. Remission and quitclaim by Isabel of 8d rent in Reshelec which she had claimed during her widowhood on the king's instruction (per preceptum domini regis), to Randulf and his heirs for ever; rent [henceforth] 1d or a pair of white gloves yearly. [6]

Issue of Roger and Alice

  1. Ralph de Tony, Knt born 1255 in England.[1]
  2. Alice de Tony born ~1260 in England. Married Walter Beauchamp, Knt., of Alcester, Warwickshire. [1]

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume V, pages 174-175 TONY 8.
  2. Richardson, Royal Ancestry, V:173 TONY 7.
  3. Epistolae: Women’s Biography, Eleanor of Provence.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 4.6 (S) CPRs.
  5. Devon Notes and Queries, Amery, 1905, P123
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 (S) UKNA.
  7. Brinkley, A History of the County of Cambridge and the Isle of Ely, V6, 1978.
  8. Inquisition Post Mortem
  • Complete Peerage, 12i. p.769-771.
  • Sanders, English Baronies, pp.117-8.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
See also:

[91] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 55. [92] Gallia Christiana, XI, Instrumenta, V, col. 128. [93] Dugdale Monasticon VI.1, Christ Church, Aldgate, London, VI, p. 152. [94] Actes Henri II, Tome I, CCCCXXIII, p. 550. [95] Actes Henri II, Tome I, CCCCXXIII, p. 550. [96] Hunter, J. (ed.) (1844) The Great Rolls of the Pipe for the second, third and fourth years of the reign of King Henry II 1155-1158 (London) ("Pipe Roll") 4 Hen II (1157), Norfolk and Suffolk, p. 125. [97] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 505 and 506. [98] Testa de Nevill, Part I, p. 134. [99] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 505 and 506. [100] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1162, p. 339. [101] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1162, p. 339. [102] Pipe Roll Society, Vol. VII (1886) The Great Roll of the Pipe for the 10th year of King Henry II (London) ("Pipe Roll 10 Hen II (1163/64)"), p. 38. [103] Rotuli Dominabus, Rotuli VIII, Essex, p. 41. [104] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1162, p. 339. [105] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Anno VI regis Ricardi, ad redemptionem eius, scutagium ad XXs, p. 92. [106] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 47. [107] Rotuli Dominabus, Rotuli V, Norffolk, p. 27. [108] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 53, p. 87. [109] Rotuli Dominabus, Rotuli V, Norffolk, p. 27. [110] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 53, p. 87. [111] Red Book Exchequer, Part II, Inquisitiones…Regis Johannis…anno regno XII et XIII…de servitiis militum, p. 499. [112] Rotuli Dominabus, Rotuli V, Norffolk, p. 27. [113] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 505 and 506. [114] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 505 and 506. [115] ES III 705, which gives no details. [116] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 505 and 506. [117] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1162, p. 339. [118] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Flamstead Abbey, Hertfordshire, I, p. 300. [119] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Anno VI regis Ricardi, ad redemptionem eius, scutagium ad XXs, p. 92. [120] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Flamstead Abbey, Hertfordshire, I, p. 300. [121] Rotuli Chartarum, 1 John, p. 20. [122] Red Book Exchequer, Part II, Inquisitiones…Regis Johannis…anno regno XII et XIII…de servitiis militum, p. 484. [123] Testa de Nevill, Part I, p. 98. [124] Urseau, C. (ed.) Obituaire de la cathédrale d'Angers, Documents historiques sur l'Anjou Tome VII (Angers) (“L'Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers”). [125] Testa de Nevill, Part I, p. 15. [126] Red Book Exchequer, Part II, Inquisitiones…Regis Johannis…anno regno XII et XIII…de servitiis militum, pp. 506 and 567. [127] Maxwell Lyte, H. C. (ed.) (1903) Patent Rolls of the reign of Henry III preserved in the Public Record Office 1225-1232 (London), p. 252. [128] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III, 588, p. 188. [129] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135. [130] Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, Vol. I (1834), XX, p. 169. [131] Stephenson, J. (ed.) (1870) Documents illustrative of the History of Scotland from the death of King Alexander the Third to the accession of Robert Bruce 1286-1306 (Edinburgh), Vol. I, CCCX, p. 398. [132] CP XIV 323. [133] Stevenson, J. (trans.) (1991) A Medieval Chronicle of Scotland: The Chronicle of Melrose (Llanerch Press) ("Chronicle of Melrose"), 1230, p. 59. [134] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Covenham Priory, Lincolnshire, I, p. 993.

  • Pedigree Resource File CD 49 (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002)
  • Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
  • hofundssonAnces.ged


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Wrong Roger.

According to MedLands, the Roger in Toeni-15 is actually Alice De Toeni's brother. Her father was Raoul De Toeni and her mother was Pernel De Lacy https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#RogerIVTosnydied1208A

posted by Kristen Murray
Toeni-15 and Toeni-74 appear to represent the same person because: This looks like the correct merge to fix it! Apologies for previous mistakes
posted by Andrew Lancaster
not sure what you want me to do

robin

posted by Robin Wood C.Eng
Warnings in WikiTree: 864 Almost empty <ref/> tags
posted by Billy Huff

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