Born about in Nettlestead, Suffolk, England
Ancestors 
Daughter of Philip (Despenser) le Despenser
and Elizabeth (Unknown) le Despenser
Sister of
Philip (Despenser) le Despenser and Joan (Despenser) de Roos
Wife of
John (Sutton) Dudley
— married
1380 in Coleshill,,Warwickshire,England
Descendants 
Mother of
John (Sutton) Dudley
Died
at about age 28
in Carlington, England
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Biography
Weis's Ancestral Roots, 6th Ed., line 81 number 34, says John de Sutton IV, of Dudley Castle, born 6 Dec 1361, died 1395/6, Inq.p.m. 1401; married Jane, Inq.p.m. 1409. He cites Complete Peerage IV 479 note e and DNB 16:107-9. Then in parenthesis - Alard says he married #1 Alice probably a daughter of guardian Philip le Despenser. She died in 1392. He married #2, Jane. Perhaps Alice was the mother of John V. Alard is later identified as George Alard: 'The Sutton-Dudleys of England and New England', N.Y.C. 1862, Pedigree 'A" The Suttons. John de Sutton V, born 1379, died 1407, married Constance Blount, died 1432, daughter of Sir Walter Blount of Barton.
Burke's Extinct Peerage (not an unimpeachable source), on page 521, under 'Sutton - Baron Dudley' has John de Sutton, 2nd Baron. 'The wardship of this nobleman, he being in minority at his father's decease, was granted to Richard, Earl of Arundel, and sold by him to Sir Philip le Despenser, in the 5th Richard II, for 350 marks. He married twice; by his first wife, Margaret, dau. of Roger de Mortimer, Baron Wigmore, he had no issue, but by his 2nd wife, Johanna he had two sons, John and Thomas. The 2nd Lord Dudley died 1376 and was succeeded by his son' John de Sutton, 3rd baron, who married 1st Alice, dau. of Philip le Despenser; and 2ndly Constance, dau. of Sir Walter le Blount... he died in 1407.
Gary Boyd Roberts does not have Alice le Despencer as the wife of Sir JOHN SUTTON; instead, he has "Jane ____" (Ancestors of American Presidents, pg 207 passim).
Sources
- "Royal Ancestry" 2013, Douglas Richardson Vol. V. p. 102
- Adlard, George. The Sutton-Dudleys of England and the Dudleys of Massachusetts in New England (London, 1862) Page 17
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It makes sense for him to be under a wardship during all this inheritance dispute and as a fatherless male heir. He inherited Weobley Castle from his mother. He came into possession of the lands in Dinas Powys after John de Somery died in 1321 and the two estates (Dudley and Dinas Powys) were divided up amongst his sisters Margaret de Somery de Sutton and Joan de Sommery Botecourt. Following the Botecourt line down Catherine Botecourt married Thomas de Berkeley. There is a marriage arrangement naming John St. John party to a marriage with the de Berkeleys. If the de Somery-Sutton line went extinct, maybe John St. John inherited Dudley and Dinas Powys.
This John St. John, Knight of Highlight also descended from Margaret Arundel m. Alexander St. John of Instow and East Luccombe.
He was named in a 1385 list of heirs for lands in Glamorgan that passed to Alice (Blount), Stafford, Sturrey d. 1414 and then John St. John of Highlight. I know for a fact these lands were Highlight (part of Dinas Powys), Odyn's Fee aka Penmark Place, and may have included cwm ciddy because the de Port-St. John family already held Fonmon Castle, Penmark Castle and East Aberthaw by 1290 and were not the 3/4ths of Penmark held by Henry Umfreville. (Richard St. George in the 1500s made up Elizabeth Umfreville heiress story.)
If John de Sutton married Catherine Stafford and d.s.p. maybe they passed to Alice Blount Stafford Sturry and then to John St. John.
Highlight passed to his son Alexander St. John and Odyn's fee passed to his son Oliver St. John. Agnes his daughter held Weobley. Maybe he had another son John that married Elizabeth de Berkeley.
the de Botecourt-de Berkeley lands were apparently held by Edward Despenser in 1373 for the crown.
There is also this Maud St. John aka Maud de Sutton https://www.thepeerage.com/p33080.htm#i330794
edited by Suzanne St. John
edited by Traci Thiessen
Adlard is confused. Burke's is totally confused. Grazebrook was also confused.
Richardson, Douglas: "Alice le Despenser, wife of John de Sutton, Knt", posting in soc.gen.medieval, 4th Nov 2008.