no image

Archibald Douglas (bef. 1628 - aft. 1679)

Privacy Level: Open (White)
Sir Archibald Douglas
Born before in Drumlanrig Castle, Dumfriesshire, Scotlandmap
Ancestors ancestors
[spouse(s) unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after in Dornock, Dumfriesshire, Scotlandmap
Douglas-1069 created 17 Sep 2011 | Last modified
This page has been accessed 257 times.

Categories: Descendants of Laird William Douglas, Name Study | Douglas of Dornock | Clan Douglas | Douglas of Queensberry | Douglas Lines That Need Work.

Clan Douglas tartan.
Archibald Douglas is a member of Clan Douglas.
Join: Scottish Clans Project
Discuss: scottish_clans
Archibald Douglas is a member of the royalty, nobility or aristocracy in the British Isles.
Join: British Isles Royals and Aristocrats 1500-Present Project
Discuss: EUROARISTO

Contents

Biography

Sir Archibald Douglas was the son of William Douglas, the 1st Earl of Queensberry, and Isabel (Kerr) Douglas. He had to have been born either in or before his mother died in 1628. He was the founder of the Douglases of Dornock. He filed his Will on December 11, 1679, and died either on or after that date.

Descendants

There are some discrepancies in the records listed here.

George Harvey Johnston

In his book, The Heraldry of the Douglases: With Notes on All the Males of the Family, Descriptions of the Arms, Plates and Pedigrees., George Harvey Johnston gives his descendants as follows:

First, Sir Archibald has 2 sons:-

1.) William Douglas of Dornock: Johnston states that he has multiple Wills and that they were recorded on May 25, 1717, March 29, 1736, and February 22, 1750. Johnston says that he married Alison Pennycook, who recorded her Will in January of 1698.

2.) Major Archibald Douglas: of whom Johnston says he recorded his Will in January 1710. Johnston records no sons for him.

Next, William Douglas of Dornock has 1 son:-

1.) James Douglas of Dornock: of whom Johnston says he married Isabella Man.

Johnston lists 3 sons for James Douglas of Dornock:-

1.) James Douglas of Dornock: Johnston says that he marries Philadelphia Johnstone, who was the daughter of the 1st Baronet of Westerhall, Sir John Johnstone.

2.) John Douglas: of him, Johnston says he recorded his Will on September 13, 1717. No children listed.

3.) William Douglas of Bodisbeck: Johnston says he died without offspring, and that his brother James was retoured[1] as his heir on September 21, 1736. I presume this is when William Douglas of Bodisbeck died due to the definition.

Finally, James Douglas of Dornock, son of James Douglas of Dornock, has 1 son:-

1.) Archibald Douglas, of whom Johnston says was retoured heir to his uncle, William Douglas of Bodisbeck, on April 10, 1760. This is probably when Archibald's father died. Further, Johnston says that his sisters succeeded Archibald, which means that Archibald died without offspring.

Johnston wraps up by saying that Dornock was sold to the Dukes of Queensberry.

thepeerage.com

'The website, thepeerage.com, gives a different line of descent for Sir Archibald Douglas.

The website lists 2 sons for Sir Archibald (in bold):

1.) William Douglas

William Douglas, son of Sir Archibald, had 1 son:-

1.) William Douglas

William Douglas, son of William Douglas, had 1 son:-

1.) James Douglas

James Douglas, son of William Douglas, had 2 sons:-

1.) William Douglas: no issue, lived at Bodsbeck, Scotland.

2.) James Douglas: who on 28 April 1703, married Philidelphia Johnstone, the daughter of Sir John Johnston, 1st Bt. and Rachel Johnstone.

They had 5 children:

1.) Clementine (Douglas) Fergusson: who married Robert Fergusson of Craigdarroch, son of Alexander Fergusson, 14th of Craigdarroch and Annie Laurie[2]. They had one daughter named Philidelphia (Fergusson) Loughnan, who had more descendants which I shall not list here.

2.) Archibald Douglas: died without issue.

3.) Philidelphia (Douglas) McMurdo: who married Robert McMurdo of Dumgans. No children listed.

4.) William Douglas: who was born and baptized on November 22, 1703. He was baptized at Edinburgh, Scotland. No children listed. As his brother was also named William Douglas, it is likely he died before his brother William was born.

5.) William Douglas: who was born and baptized November 25, 1704, at Edinburgh, Scotland. No children listed.

2.) Major James Douglas: born 1634, and died after 1663 in Jamacia, his Will dated that same year.

Major James Douglas had 1 son:-

1.) Thomas Douglas: born 1616 and died 1717. He married a Lady Watson in Jamaica.

Thomas Douglas had 1 son with her:-

1.) Samuel Douglas: born 1700, he married Ms. James, daughter of Robert James.

They had 1 son:-

1.) Samuel Douglas: born about 1720, he married Isabella Moncrieffe. Samuel worked as a merchant in Kingston, Jamaica.

Samuel and his wife had 1 son:-

1.) Robert Douglas: born 1750. Robert had a son, Samuel Douglas, whose descendants I shall not list here.

That is all for thepeerage.com.

Conclusion

It looks as if there is confusion on who the sons of Sir Archibald were, and how many he had. Together, the 2 sources list 3 sons for Sir Archibald:-

1.) William Douglas of Dornock: Johnston states that he has multiple Wills and that they were recorded on May 25, 1717, March 29, 1736, and February 22, 1750. Johnston says that he married Alison Pennycook, who recorded her Will in January of 1698. thepeerage.com also lists a William Douglas who is a son of Sir Archibald, which means they are one and the same.

thepeerage.com gives the following descendants: William Douglas of Dornock sires William who sires James who sires brothers William and James, of the 2 brothers, only James has children, who are the siblings Clementine, Archibald, Philidelphia, William, William. (No, that is not a typo, James really did have 2 sons named William, the first of them listed probably died before the other was born, allowing the name to be used again, which was not unheard of.)
George Harvey Johnston gives the following descendants: William Douglas of Dornock sires James who sires brothers James, John, and William. Of the 3 brothers, only James had any children. One of them was Archibald Douglas, who died without children. Archibald did have sisters, however, who inherited from him.
  • It looks like there is an error about who the children of William Douglas of Dornock are. Taken together, the sources at first appear to say that William Douglas of Dornock had 2 sons, William and James. However, if this was so then James Douglas was both the son and grandson of William Douglas of Dornock through the male line! This obviously cannot be right. They are not different James Douglases as they both have sons that are one and the same, named William and James, whose data do not contradict each other. (William is "of Bodisbeck" and died without children in the 2 sources, and James married to Philadelphia Johnstone in both sources. The 2 sources also say that James had a son named Archibald Douglas who died without issue. The 2 sources both say he had sisters.) thepeerage.com leaves out their brother John Douglas, but that still leaves the same problem. More reaserach is need to solve this.
Illistration of the Problem

...................................................................----> William---->

William Douglas of Dornock.........................James ----> James, John[3], William

................................................................... --------------------->


2.) Major Archibald Douglas: of whom Johnston says he recorded his Will in January 1710. Johnston records no sons for him, but that does not mean he had none, Johnston could have omitted them for lack of space. This is reinforced by the fact that Johnson does not say that Major Archibald died without issue or without offspring. thepeerage.com does not list Major Archibald.

3.) Major James Douglas: born 1634, and died after 1663 in Jamacia, his Will dated that same year. A son and descendants are given on thepeerage.com. Geroge Harvey Johnston does not list a Major James.

It seems that numbers 2 and 3 above could possibly be one and the same. However, the Wills are recorded have different dates and first names. While some people probably did record more than 1 Will for various reasons, such as when they needed to be updated, it seems that most of the time only the Will that was used upon their death is listed in genealogies. It is also possible the either James or Archibald was a middle name, but they were rare in Scotland until about 1780.[4] Numbers 2 and 3 also held the same military rank of Major, but there is no reason to believe that there cannot be 2 brothers who hold the same military rank. The evidence here seems to support numbers 2 and 3 being separate persons.

It is possible that the parents for numbers 2 and 3 are wrong for 1 or both of them, and that cannot be discounted yet. More research is needed to be done to check this out.

Sources

  • Johnston, George Harvey. "The Douglases of Drumlanrig, Queensberry and Kelhead." The Heraldry of the Douglases: With Notes on All the Males of the Family, Descriptions of the Arms, Plates and Pedigrees. Edinburgh: W. & A.K. Johnston, Limited, 1907.27. Print.
  • WikiTree profile Douglas-1069 created through the import of Tap.ged on Sep 16, 2011 by Richard Draper. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Richard and others.
  • Source: S26 Abbreviation: Ancestral File (R) Title: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R) (Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998) Subsequent Source Citation Format: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R) BIBL The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Ancestral File (R). Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998. TMPLT TID 0 FIELD Name: Footnote VALUE The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R) (Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998) FIELD Name: ShortFootnote VALUE The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R) FIELD Name: Bibliography VALUE The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Ancestral File (R). Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998. Repository: #R1 Repository: #R1 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page
  • Repository: R1 Name: Family History Library Address: 35 N West Temple Street CONT Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA Address 1: 35 N West Temple Street Address 2: Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
  1. The website at http://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/retour says that it this term is defined as follows: "Sc. Law: to make a return to Chancery declaring a successor heir (Sc. 1808 Jam.); to declare formally as heir; to declare the annual taxable value of the land concerned on such a return (Ib.)."
  2. http://thepeerage.com/p66648.htm#i666479
  3. Only in George Harvey Johnston
  4. http://time.com/4451977/history-of-middle-names/




More Genealogy Tools



Sponsored by MyHeritage




Search
Searching for someone else?
First: Last:

DNA
No known carriers of Archibald's Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA have taken yDNA or mtDNA tests.

Have you taken a DNA test for genealogy? If so, login to add it. If not, see our friends at Family Tree DNA.



Collaboration

There are no public comments yet.



Archibald is 21 degrees from AJ Jacobs, 18 degrees from Jeanie Roberts, 12 degrees from Myles Standish and 11 degrees from Queen Elizabeth II Windsor on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

D  >  Douglas  >  Archibald Douglas