Roger Dudley (abt. 1550 - 1586)

Born about 1550 in Burgundy, France

Ancestors

Husband of Suzanna (Thorne) Dudley — married 8 Jun 1575 in Lidlington, Bedfordshire, England

Descendants

Died 22 Aug 1586 at about age 36 in Zutphen, Zutphen, Gelderland, Netherlands

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Biography

Proof of Parentage

The fact that Gov Thomas Dudley used the Sutton-Dudley coat of arms on his seal supports that he was of the Sutton-Dudley lineage.

The Sutton-Dudley coat of arms consisted of a green lion rampant (standing erect with one foot on the ground and facing left) on a field of gold. Originally, the lion had a double tail, but in the sixteenth century the heralds, due to a dispute, caused the lion to be displayed with a single tail. The heralds restored the double tail in the seventeenth century.

The lion on the Duke of Northumberland's coat of arms had the double tail, but Thomas Dudley's had a single tail. The double tail signifies that the lion's force is doubled due to the great strength in his tail.

The eldest son had the right to bear the paternal arms unchanged. The younger sons were required to make the arms different by adding a mark of cadency. The crescent was the cadency mark on the coat of arms of both the Duke of Northumberland and Thomas Dudley.

Thomas Dudley owned a seal which displayed the above described Sutton-Dudley coat of arms. The only document known to which he affixed his coat of arms with the seal was his will. Thomas Dudley's eldest son, Joseph, by his second marriage also became an important Governor whose seal was used on a number of official documents.^[1]

Birth

He was born about 1550, probably in the fortress of Boulogne.^[2]

Marriage

He married Susannah (Thorne) Dudley.^[3][2][4]

Death

The recorded date of death is the date of record of Dudley's death at the Siege of Zutphen, in the Netherlands. Other records indicate he may have died 14 Mary 1590 in the Battle of Ivry, Ivry la Bataille, Normandy, France. The death in Zutphin appears to be the most correct.

Sources

1. ↑ The Mystery of Thomas Dudley's Paternal Ancestors
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Faris, David. Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1996.$ Free Ancestry Image
3. ↑ Weis, Frederick Lewis, Th.D. The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215. Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD, 5th Edition. pg 71, Line 50-13. Free Ancestry Image
4. ↑ England Marriages, 1538–1973, database, FamilySearch [1] : 13 March 2020), Roger Dudley, 1575.

• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Volume II. ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011 pages 95-98 DUDLEY
• Richardson, Douglas. Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families. 2nd edn. in 3 vols. (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2011).
• Curtis, H. Allen. Roger Dudley's Father Proved to Be Captain Henry Dudley (accessed 15 July 2020) [2]
• Dudley, Dean. The Dudley Genealogies and Family Records (Boston : The author, 1848) Page 17

Research Notes

See this article re possible son Francis: Hinman, Bary E., Francis Dudley, an Unknown Brother of Gov. Thomas Dudley, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 2020) Vol. 174, Page 301-2.

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

Roger Dudley, father of Gateway Ancestor Governor Thomas Dudley, is possibly the direct descendant of 13 of the 25 Magna Carta Surety Barons.

• Needs Research: Rogers parentage needs to be determined before trails can be developed. ~ Thiessen-117 18:09, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

NOTE: the identification of Roger's parentage is contentious, and is NOT supported by Douglas Richardson (RA 2:476). For supported trails from Thomas Dudley, use Thomas's mother, Susanna Thorne-41, who is descended from 8 barons - Albini, Clares, FitzWalter, Lacy, Quincy, Ros, Vere. The trails below have not yet been verified by the Magna Carta Project. This list will be updated as trails are verified or disproven:

• William d'Albini, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 11th great-grandfather
• Hugh Bigod, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 12th great-grandfather
• Roger Bigod, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 13th great-grandfather
• Henry de Bohun, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 11th great-grandfather
• Gilbert de Clare, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 11th great-grandfather
• Richard de Clare, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 12th great-grandfather. See trail on Thorne-41.
• John (Clavering) FitzRobert, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 11th great-grandfather
• Robert FitzWalter, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 12th great-grandfather. See trail on Thorne-41.
• John de Lacy, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 11th great-grandfather
• William de Mowbray, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 12th great-grandfather
• Saher de Quincy, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 11th great-grandfather
• Robert de Ros, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 11th great-grandfather
• Robert de Vere, MCS, is Governor Thomas Dudley's 12th great-grandfather