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Nathaniel Benjamin Duncan Sr (1765 - 1836)

Nathaniel Benjamin Duncan Sr
Born in Abermarle, Virginiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 6 Nov 1782 in Caswell, North Carolina, United Statesmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 70 in Corydon, Henderson, Kentucky, United Statesmap
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Pre Merge Note/Cleanup See Research Notes at Duncan-9 (the 3 Nathaniels) Suggest Following Merges to cleanup profiles

Elijah (son of Rainey) Duncan-4180 into Duncan-8
Nathan/Nathaniel (Father m. Rainey 1782) Duncan-4169 into Duncan-9
Jane Rainey (Mother) Rainey-549 into Rainey-1

(Rainey's son Nathan Benj (1793) m. Martha Tyree and Elizabeth Humphreys) (This should result in 1 set of parents w/7 children - with aka's added)

Contents

Biography

Nathaniel Duncan (aka's (Nathan Benjamin, Nathan/Nathaniel/ etc., Nathaniel Benjamin) son of Daniel Duncan and Mary Church

Birth Estimate 1765, most likely North Carolina
Marriage Jane Rainey 06 Nov 1702; Caswell, North Carolina[1]
Death Estimate Unknown - before 1850 - (vs 1836 Corydon, Henderson Co., KY)[2]
Estimated Children Births 1766-1815
Estimated Locations North Carolina; Henderson KY; possibly GA

Marriage

Husband: Nathan Benjamin Duncan
Wife: Nancy Jane Rainey
Marriage:
Date: 6 NOV 1782
Place: Caswell Co., NC[3][1]

Children

Child: Susan A. Duncan
Child: Nathan Benjamin Duncan
Child: John Duncan
Child: Elijah Duncan (MERGE)
Child: Nancy Duncan
Child: William Duncan
Child: Absolom (Absalom) C Duncan

Name: Nathaniel Duncan. Nathan Duncan. [4] Found multiple versions of name. Using Nathaniel Duncan.

File File: Media Format: jpg. old grant.

Marriage Husband @P101@. Wife @P100@. Child: @P93@. Marriage 6 Nov 1782. Caswell, North Carolina, United States. Marriage 6 Sep 1782. Caswell, North Carolina, USA. [5]

"North Carolina, Civil Marriages, 1763-1868", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/Q29D-YF1N : 11 May 2018), Nathaniel Duncan and Jane Rainey, 1782. "North Carolina Marriages, 1759-1979," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F8Y9-192 : 10 February 2018), Nathan Duncan and Jane Rainey, 06 Nov 1702; citing Caswell, North Carolina, reference ; FHL microfilm 478,485.

(Image) "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F8PQ-N3Y : 3 November 2017), Nathaniel Duncan and Jane Rainey, 06 Nov 1782; citing , Caswell, North Carolina, United States, p. Item 1, Office of Archives and History, Division of Archives and Records. State Archive of North Carolina and various county Register of Deeds; FHL microfilm 478,484. (includes Nathan m. Humphreys 1818; Nathan m Tyre 1827; Nathaniel m. Rainey 1782)

Research Notes

Nathaniel and Daniel Discrepancies

  • Nathaniel and Daniel (sons of David and Elizabeth) both had sons named "Nathaniel (aka Nathan aka Nathanel, etc.)
  • Speculation

There is a good deal of controversy regarding which Nathaniel married Jane Rainey Nov. 6 1782 Caswell Co NC[1]
--- could be the son of either;
--- or, both Nathaniel's could have married Rainey's - and marriages were unrecorded.

Nathaniel (1757 - 1836) m. NC Jane Rainey Most likely is the son of Daniel and Mary Church[1]
Rainey's appear in Will records and North HIco Land Records (This Nath. (for sure in NC) and then to Henderson KY and possibly GA per wills)
(Nathan/Nathaniel) son of Nathaniel & Rainey - m. 1st Elizabeth Humphreys Sep 5 1818; m. 2nd Martha Tyre March 2 1827) (See DSA Oct 97 5#4) [[(Lucy Duncan, dau of Unk m. Joel Stanley Mar 13 1824) Stanley Research]]
Nathaniel (1765 - 1833) (m. Keziah) (son of Nathaniel & Agnes)- May have been in NC; most likely remained in the (N/S) Carolinas; and the son of Mary Church -- presumably went to Henderson KY (as most Nathaniel land records seem to involve "Mary"); and may have gone to GA.
Appears to be a Contemporary Nathaniel m. Rainey (parents Unknown) from Caswell KY to Green Co GA This Nathaniel reportedly did not go/live in Kentucky (although the same NC bond is referenced as that of Mary's son) - purportedly not a duplicate of Mary's son; besides the spouse name -- no evidence to support as same person

Mary Ann Duncan Dobson "Duncan Research Files" (Consolidated, sourced and acknowledged); and the many Duncan Researchers that have provided information. See link re Archived Status
The Genealogy Bug

Source index [1] [6] [7] [2]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Marriage Bond Record; Groom: Nathaniel Duncan; Bride: Jane Rainey; Bond Date: 06 Nov 1782; Bond #:000015051; Caswell Co North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 (Image Num: 006556; Record #: 01 080) Bondsman: William Rainey; Witness: H. Haralson
    That the Jane Rainey of this entry is a daughter of John Rainey and Elizabeth Hunter Rainey has not been confirmed by reference to any primary source, and researchers are advised to proceed with caution. The will of John Rainey referred to only four children: James Rainey, Thomas, Rainey, and Jenny Rainey. The document also referenced William Rainey (but not described as a child) and the wife of John Rainey
    Digital Copy Caswell County, North Carolina, Marriage Bonds, 1778-1868; By Katharine Kerr Kendall,]
  2. 2.0 2.1 United States Census, 1840, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRK-GV6 : 15 August 2017), Natn Duncan, Henderson, Kentucky, United States; citing p. 245, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 114; FHL microfilm 7,827. (age 70-90)
  3. Source: #S130
  4. Source: #S1651395163 Ancestry Record 60548 #6793912
  5. Source: #S1651395163 Ancestry Record 60548 #6793912
  6. Albemarle Parish Transcripts shows children; gender and relationships - confirmed by (David's) Will Recorded 17 July 1744
    Archived Duncan Association Newsletter, Vol. 5, No. 4, October 1997 Archived Apr 14 2012
    Boddie, J. B. Births, Deaths and Sponsor - 1717-1778 - from the Albermarle Parish Register of Surry and Sussex Counties of Virginia. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1958. p 37.
    ppgs 37; 63; 118; 104; 126
  7. Caswell Co. NC Tax List 1777 by Kendall, St.Lawrence Dist.: Agnes Duncan; Daniel Duncan; Miles Duncan; 1781 tax list shows Daniel Duncan; Miles Duncan; Jesse Duncan; Agniss Duncan (taxed 172.4 on cash and 1862 (money) on property)
    1793 Tax List Wilkes GA
    #25, do for Miles Duncan decd, 0 white pole, 1 black, 60a Wilkes Co., Kettle Creek, adj. John Cargile
    Capt. Cainber? Bennett's Co.:
    #6, Daniel Duncan, 1 wp, 75a, Wilkes, (torn) adj. Capt. Bennett (pg.37)
    #7, David Duncan, 1 wp, 140a & 159a, Wilkes, (torn), adj. White & Watte?
    #41, Nath'l. Duncan, 1 pole, 2 blacks, 175a (torn) adj. Owen Flick? (pg.38)
    Capt. Cargill's Co.:
    #7, Nathl. Dunkin, 197a Kettle Creek adj. Owin Flukes, Wilkes Co., 1 wp, 3 slaves. (pg.27)
    #16, David Dunkin, 100a-128a, Little River, adj. Townsen, Wilkes Co., 1 pole (pg.28)
  • Source: S1651395124 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.Ancestry Family Tree Ancestry Family Tree: #1439796
  • Source: S1651395163 North Carolina, U.S., Marriage Records, 1741-2011 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Record Collection 60548

See Also

(Parents as Nathaniel & Agnes)]

  • Surry County Records
  • Albemarle Records
  • Wilkes County GA Records

DNA

Paternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group on MyHeritageDNA who share a 11 cM segment on chromosome 3, consisting of Kevin Alfultis and Richard Douglas, his 7th cousin 1x removed, and Stacey Shoulders, his 6th cousin. (Richard and Stacey are 7th cousins 1x removed.) These matches have been independently verified by via the MyHeritage Chromosome Browser. Their most-recent common ancestors are David Duncan and Elizabeth Unknown, the 7x great grandparents of Kevin Alfultis and 6x great grandparents of Richard Douglas and 7x great grandparents of Stacey Shoulders.

Acknowledgement

  • Campbell Braddock as part of the Data Doctors
  • GEDCOM import.Duncan-4169 was created by Karen Fleming through the import of IshmaelGibson_2014_0325.ged on Mar 25, 2014.




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Duncan-4169 and Duncan-9 appear to represent the same person because: See Research Notes at Duncan-9 (the 3 Nathaniels) Suggest Following Merges to cleanup profiles

Elijah (son of Rainey) Duncan-4180 into Duncan-8 Nathan/Nathaniel (Father m. Rainey 1782) Duncan-4169 into Duncan-9 Jane Rainey (Mother) Rainey-549 into Rainey-1

posted by Sandy Edwards
Duncan-2389 and Duncan-9 do not represent the same person because: Nathaniel Duncan-2389 is not the same as Duncan-9 that I can see.

Duncan- 9 is not the Nathaniel that married Jane Rainey. I believe Duncan-9 with the incorrect tie to Jane Rainey has been floating and has taken on a life of its own. If you have other reasons to believe that they are the same, please let me know.

posted by James Hodges
Duncan-2389 and Duncan-9 appear to represent the same person because: Nathaniel Duncan m.Jane (Rainey) Duncan — married November 6, 1782 in Caswell, North Carolina (sourced) Birth Guess 1762
posted by Sandy Edwards

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