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John Duncan (abt. 1789 - bef. 1846)

John Duncan
Born about in Tennessee, United Statesmap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and
Brother of , , , and
Husband of — married 2 Aug 1823 in Sumner, Tennessee, United Statesmap
Descendants descendants
Father of and
Died before before about age 57 [location unknown]
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Contents

Biography

John Duncan the son of Moses Duncan and Sarah Whitmore[1]

Not sure why it is showing so many census not related to John????? shouldnt they be under the actual person that it is for. Very confusing

Marriage

Marriage Estimate 2 August 1823, in Sumner, Tennessee -- Lucinda Senter (aka Lucinda Center)[2]

Jasper Co MO Histories "Hiram, John, Mary, Margaret and William married in Tennessee, and came to Sangamon county ILL with their father. Moses . .. . . It appears from other records that by 1835 the whole family was living in MO"[3]

Death

Death Estimate Unknown (unproven); reportedly before December 1846, in Logan, Kentucky. or possibly Missouri before 1850 Census.[4]

It appears brothers were residing in Lawrence Mo in the 1850 Timeframe

Discrepancy

  • Children should be re-reviewed and reattached to correct parent(s) if confirming sources can be located. (Grandchildren of Moses m Whitmore
  • Likely DNA tests will be the only resolution for correct (unsourced) parent placements

Children Presumed to be those of John m Senter vs Hiram (or other) as his (John children) are not specifically identified by name;

Several Brothers died before The 1850 Census (w/no probate) and their children may have been placed with relatives. See individual Profiles for more detailed information re locations. [[Duncan-5104|John; [[Duncan-4944|Hiram (CA); [[Duncan-17352|David and Archibald Estimated Locations: family migrated from TN to Sangamon Co. IL; AR; Jasper MO to Tulare CA. (Children may have gone from TN to Missouri (and on to California) with others in this family; and may very likely include children of Moses' deceased Sons David and Archibald who died before 1850

Children

Reportedly John and Lucinda were the parents of at least 7 Unidentified children; Children Birth Estimates 1823-1849 Tennessee or Missouri; No Will/Probate located for John to prove or disprove names.

Appear to be "proven" Grandchildren of Moses[5]

  • "Waldo Duncan" (1831-) mar. Nancy Crosley Oct 20 1850) (Jasper Co MO[5]) [6]; (aka David Waldo vs David Duncan vs David Waldo Duncan (b/1831) [7]
  • [[Duncan-16114|Elizabeth Jane Duncan (1823 TN-1906 KS) m Thomas Jefferson Day (most likely the dau of John and Lucinda (in Missouri) vs Contemporary John and Lucretia of Arkansas (co-mingled sources) [8]

UNPROVEN/UNSOURCED/Marriage Research Needed

  • Martha Duncan (1835) Illinois [5]
  • Joseph Duncan (1829) Illinois[5]
  • Adaline Duncan (1836) Illinois[5]
  • Marion Duncan( 1838) Missouri [5]
  • William Duncan (1841) Missouri [5]
  • Mary Duncan (1843) Missouri [5]

Census

1850 Lawrence county, Lawrence, Missouri, (This Census appears to agree with other records in support of John m Lucinda children/locations/etc List ) Household Role Sex Age Birthplace

John Duncan Male 30 Tennessee (1820) vs 1822 (son m Strickland)
Lucy Duncan Female 50 Tennessee (1800) vs 1800-1805 (Mother Lucinda)
Martha Duncan Female 15 Illinois (1835)
Joseph Duncan Male 21 Illinois (1829)
Adaline Duncan Female 14 Illinois (1836)
Marion Duncan Male 12 Missouri ( 1838)
William Duncan Male 9 Missouri (1841)
Mary Duncan Female 7 Missouri (1843)

[5]

Research

(Contemporary / Co-mingled sources for John m Lucretia of Jasper, Crittenden, Arkansas (wrong location as son of Moses) vs John Duncan m Lucinda (son of Moses = Lauderdale AR and Jasper MO) -- No proven family relationship). Does Not appear to represent the same "John" . Jasper, Crittenden, Arkansas records "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M67H-21Y : 20 December 2020), Elizabeth Duncan in household of John Duncan, Jasper Township, Crittenden, Arkansas, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

Contemporary in Crittenden Arkansas vs Lawrence/Jasper Missouri - appears to be John C Duncan (1800 SC) m Lucretia Unknown (1801 TN) Unable to locate any Marriage Detail for "Lucretia"- Located 1840 Campbell Co. TN census; ? Lucretia and family in 1860 Madison Co. MO census; one John Duncan 28 mar. Mary William 36 3/15/1855, not the John M. Duncan in 1860 Madison Co. MO; one Wm. T. Duncon 30 mar. Rachel Parker over 18 on 12/8/1850)
(partial sourced) John Duncan 1799 – Deceased • LZ5D-NK7 (Crittenden AR

Sources

Links for Find A Grave and Ancestry Family Trees are provided for reference and convenience only (and are considered unreliable/unproven unless sources are contained within).

  1. ↑ DSA Newsletter V3-No 2
  2. ↑ "Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKH3-G64M : 10 March 2021), John Duncan and Lucinda Center, 02 Aug 1823; citing Sumner, Tennessee, United States, Marriage, p. , Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville and county clerk offices from various counties; FHL microfilm 969,844.
  3. ↑ MEMORIAL ID 31710771 Richard Center (Bio) Two possible parents for Lucinda -- Richard Senter m Elizabeth (Betsy) HUNT (Bledsoe Creek) or his Brother Freeman Senter married Elizabeth Colclough - "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC69-NXH : 23 December 2020), Freeman Senter, Sumner, Tennessee, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archiv...
  4. ↑ 1876 "History of the Early Settlers of Sangamon County, Illinois : centennial record" by John Carroll Power, pub. Springfield, IL: Edwin A. Wilson & Co. (Los Angeles Public Library book; FHL book 977.356 D3p and film 1,000,513 item 4; also from Carolyn Jensen, Sue Monaghan, Donald Neal Duncan) "
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.7 5.8 5.9 1850 Jasper county, part of, Jasper, Missouri (Likely Grandsons of Moses and Sarah Whitmore); John Duncan M 28 Missouri (1822) Katharine Duncan F 25 Missouri (1825]]) Delilah Duncan F 7 Missouri ((1843) David (Waldo) Duncan M 5 Missouri (1845); David Waldo Duncan M 19 Missouri (A brother?) (1831); "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDZZ-P45 : 9 November 2014), John Duncan, Jasper county, part of, Jasper, Missouri, United States; citing family 555, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
    See (John/Strickland son) Namesake? David Waldo Duncan (1845 m Ardena (Wilson and Nancy)
    Duncan, David W., widow Duncan, Nancy S.; M 8 & H 11 MO Cav.; 1890 Aug. 8, Invalid Appl. #887660, Cert. #999936, MO; 1923 Dec. 3, Widow Appl. #1212697, no cert., Calif. (1890 Cedar Co. MO; ? 1850 Jasper Co. MO census; ? b.1846, d. 1923 Tulare Co. CA)
  6. ↑ "Missouri Marriages, 1750-1920", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V28J-ZS5 : 18 January 2020), Waldo Duncan, 20 Oct 1850 Jasper, Missouri, m Nancy Cossley
  7. ↑ Possible Census Error "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHZV-WD5 : 18 February 2021), David Waldo, 1860. 1860 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace David Waldo Male 29 Missouri (1831) (David Waldo Duncan) Nancey Waldo Female 27 Missouri (1833) (Nancy Crosley) John Waldo Male 8 Missouri (1852) Melcena Waldo Female 6 Missouri (1854) William Waldo Male 2 Missouri (1858)
  8. ↑ : "Missouri Marriages, 1750-1920", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V28G-4SG : 18 January 2020), Eliza J. Duncan in entry for Thomas J. Day, 30 Mar 1845 Lawrence, Missouri
    "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDZD-661 : 22 December 2020), Elisa Day in household of Thomas Day, Lawrence, Missouri, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
    Find A Grave Memorial 20873109
Mary Ann Duncan Dobson "Duncan Research Files" (Consolidated,  sourced and acknowledged); and the many Duncan Researchers that have  provided information. The Genealogy Bug
1878 History of Sangamon Co. IL by Powers; History of Jasper Co. MO; DSA



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