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Jelena Eckstädt ist ein Mitglied des Deutschland-Projekts (Germany Project).
Jelena Eckstädt contributed a biography to the 2021 Canada Project Notables Biography Challenge.
Jelena Eckstädt solved 10 or more Unknowns in the October 2022 Unknowns Project Skeletons in the Closet Challenge.
Jelena Eckstädt participated with Germany Genies during the January 2024 Connect-a-Thon, and added xxx connections. Germany Genies added a total of 5,331 profiles, placing 4th in a total of 37 teams and normalized 5th with 21 members (avg.: 254).
When I don't know, I don't type in. End of discussion.
A basic profile with one source is better than no profile.
I am completely for sources, but sometimes, you don't have primary sources. Secondary sources are good too, as long as you type in where you found the stuff you claim.
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Jelena Eckstädt participated with Mighty Maple Leaves during the 2018 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to 115 previously unsourced profiles.
Jelena Eckstädt participated with Legacy Heirs during the 2019 Scan-a-Thon, scanning and uploading 58 items to profiles.
Jelena Eckstädt participated with The German Genies during the 2019 Connect-a-Thon, and added 249 connections.
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Jelena earned 9 Blue Milestone Owls while participating in the 2019 Monthly Sourcerers' Challenges
Jelena Eckstädt participated in the 2020 Connect-a-Thon, and added 338 connections.
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Leibniz was born on July 1, 1646, the child of Friedrich Leibnütz and Catherina Schmuck. He began spelling his name "Leibniz" early in adult life, but others often referred to him as "Leibnitz," a spelling which persisted until the twentieth century.
You said it yourself: He was "the child of Friedrich Leibnütz and Catherina Schmuck". That means his Last Name At Birth is Leibnütz. He then chose to use Leibniz, which should come into Current Last Name. "Leibnitz" and all other versions should come into "Other Last Names"
I will copy this discussion onto the profile of Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, so that the discussion about the spelling of his LNAB is obvious there. We can continue to discuss over there.
Jelena, could you please provide a URL for “But it is part of the style guide HERE.”?
My ancestors left Germany in 1751, from today’s Biebergemünd, Main-Kinzig Kreis. Even Wikipedia.de does not seem to have enough time resolution for that location.
I like Wikitree, but spins my head. Not at all sure I’d ever find it. 🙂
Wikipedia.de has the time resolution, not really for Biebergemünd, because it was only founded in 1974, but for Büchelbach. "1736 starb der letzte Graf von Hanau." So it's "Grafschaft Hanau (more exact Hanau-Münzenberg)". I changed it at Johann Georg Heinrich Reitz.
Anna Martha's surname at birth and her family were discovered (2021), so LNAB and ID can now be corrected. But there were at least 4 surname variants found in the church records for her immediate family — [Koler, Koller, Köller, etc.], and no later or American records to know how it might have become settled with increasing literacy.
My concern about doing this properly (and any advice!!) is because it will determine how she is grouped in records. What is normal practice in such a case?
Thank you Jelena, for taking care of the basics of correcting Anna Martha Koller's WT entry! Today I removed the only remaining "unknown"; she's now Koller-731.
It make me very happy to have this corrected for posterity. No one in the family had any idea of her birth name; I still ponder how that knowledge was lost.
Can you look at Johann Heinrich Walthes (1818-1891) he seems to have 3 wives with the same name. I have no experience with German records.
The 3 wives probably need to be merged.
Or can you suggest someone who could do the merges?
I have been trying to help the PM with sourcing on other profiles she manages, but she says its too difficult.
I said I would add the unsourced banner as needed to her managed profiles, so others could source them.
Then I found this profile , the 3 wives were all created by the same PM.
ich habe Daten zu Vorfahren vor 1700 für WikiTree (englische Version) und als Quelle "family book" angegeben. Das wird so nicht akzeptiert... Ich weiß allerdings, dass die gesammelten Werke meines Vaters sicher und korrekt sind. Was kann ich tun um meine Ahnen einzutragen, wenn ich keine Beweise habe?
LG, Irene
Das wird nicht akzeptiert, weil man vor 1700 zuverlässige Quellen zitieren muss. Auch wenn du meinst, dass die Quellen deines Vaters zuverlässig sind, können sich Fehler eingeschlichen haben. Dazu ein Beispiel:
Mein Opa suchte seine Vorfahren weiter zurück als er es für den Ahnenpass gebraucht hätte. Ich habe die Kopien von seinen gesammelten Urkunden. Bei einem seiner Ururopas hatte er Urkunden für die Eltern. Vor etwa drei Jahren sah ich mir auf FamilySearch die nicht indexierte Volkszählung von der Stadt dieser Vorfahren an und fand (identifiziert durch das Geburtsdatum) diesen 4xUropa von mir. In dieser Volkszählung standen seine Eltern drin. Erst freute ich mich. Aber plötzlich dachte ich: "Moment mal, da stimmt was nicht..." Die Eltern aus meinen Urkunden hatten andere Geburtsdaten. Wem soll ich jetzt glauben? Ich habe mich entschieden, der Volkszählung zu glauben und zu sagen, dass mein Opa einen Fehler gemacht hat.
Ein "Familienbuch" ist für Pre1700-Profile leider nicht zuverlässig genug. Dir wird kaum was anderes übrigbleiben als zusätzliche Quellen für deine Vorfahren zu suchen. Du kannst übrigens auch in der "englischen Version" die Quelle auf Deutsch eingeben. WikiTree ist international, auch wenn es die Benutzeroberfläche nur auf Englisch gibt.
danke für die ausführliche Erklärung! Ich habe auch bereits klitzekleine Fehler oder Zahlendreher bei der Familien-Sammlung entdeckt. Jedenfalls finde ich es gut, dass WikiTree die Pre1700 Profile streng kontrolliert.
LG, Irene
Liebe Jelena, danke für die ausführliche Erklärung zu meiner Frage, ob man WikiTree auf deutsch umstellen kann. Ja, die Frage bezog sich auf die Benutzeroberfläche... Schade! LG, Irene
Thank you for participating in the December 2023 USBH Connecting Challenge and helping us create 6214 profiles. We created a total of 46,036 profiles for the year. We met our 2023 goal of 250k profiles and finished out the year with 168,195!
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Hi Jelena!! Thank you for your consistent improvement of WikiTree by participation in the Sourcerers Project during 2023!
Jelena Eckstädt reached the Golden Achievement milestone by sourcing at least one profile in every month of the 2023 Sourcerers Project Sourcerers' Challenge.
I didn't look for any sources for Otto Ruckpaul when I edited the profile, now when I looked, I only found the passenger list to New York, but nothing else.
From wikipedia.de
"Deutsches Kaiserreich ist die nachträgliche Bezeichnung des Deutschen Reiches für die Epoche von seiner Gründung 1871 bis zum Ende der Monarchie in der Novemberrevolution von 1918"
Why did you change "Deutsches Kaiserreich" to "Deutsches Reich"? Please provide source for your edits.
Klaus
Das wichtigste Wort, das für "Deutsches Reich" spricht, hast du selbst geliefert: "nachträglich". Zeitgenössisch war die Bezeichnung "Deutsches Reich". Denn laut der WikiTree-Hilfe benutzen wir die Namen, die "am jeweiligen Ort zur Zeit des Ereignisses [...] verwendet wurde."
The official language in Bavaria is German. Bavarian is by most scholars considered a dialect of German. There is hardly any use of a Bavarian literary language. That's why I changed it to German.
Re: John August Saam, I saw that you had edited the first and middle names by combining them into the first and preferred names. At first I was taken aback mostly because I spend a lot of time separating the first and middle names on American profiles that were gedcom creations (not this profile) from back when they were allowed, and first and middle names were often combined in the first name field. Since you didn't leave any explanation for what you did, I went ahead and changed it back to the original. Then, after further research as to why you would make that alteration in the first place, I learned the reasoning behind your work, and have since redone your edit. I like it when I learn new things. Thanks.
I only followed the Germany Project Name Field Guidelines, which clearly say: "All given names should be entered in the Proper First Name field in the order listed on the birth document. It is common in Germany for a person to have multiple given names - the German culture does not have the concept of middle names." So this is the valid point here.
Hi! Just a reminder - if a profile is managed by the Germany Project, it needs to display the project box. See the German Roots table here for profiles that don't (or which have the project box but aren't managed by the project, but there aren't any of those to fix this week).
I've been working on these in the past, but I'm trying to reduce my "WikiTree time", so I won't be looking at these in the future. As PC for Managed Profiles of the Germany Project, please check weekly for new problems (it's fairly easy to maintain, but took me a couple of months earlier this year to clear them).
Just a reminder: I am not the Project Leader. If you have stuff that only the leader can do, please post your message on Dieter Lewerenz' profile (Lewerenz-9)
You don't have to be a leader to monitor this & you don't have to be a leader to fix the problem unless (1) the profile is not open or (2) the project DOES want to manage the profile and you are not a profile manager (meaning you cannot add the project account as a manager).
None of the profiles that I listed appear to me to need project management and all of them are either open or managed by you (which means you can fix the problem). As the project's PC for managed profiles, I thought that you would be the person to determine whether or not a profile should be managed by the project & could then refer any profiles that need a Leader to add the project account to the Germany Project's leader.
Project Boxes can be only put on the profiles by the Project Leaders (see here). And I am no Leader. I only told you to go to the Project Leader Dieter Lewerenz, when the task is something a leader has to do. Nothing else.
At least the 4 von Schirach-profiles need Project Management, because all of them are living Notables that have to be managed by a Project to be visible.
it's annual check-in time 2023. If you still wish to remain a member of the Germany Project, please reply to this post, by stating this intention. If we don’t hear from you in the next 30 days, your membership badge will be removed. In this case please don't be offended ... you're welcome to rejoin at any time. Please also note, that in order to receive help, with researching your German ancestors, membership is not mandatory. Just ask your questions in the G2G forum and tag them with Germany in order for knowledgeable people to see them.
If you wish to remain a member, we would like to learn more about your perception of the Germany Project in order to achieve a future development according to our members needs and wishes. For this, we created a survey, which we kindly ask you to fill-in.
In case you want to communicate, discuss and receive help about WikiTree in German, you might want to check out the WikiTree category at Compgen’s Discourse as well as the German Discord server Ahnenforschung.
Of course there’s still the official WikiTree Discord server, where we usually talk English. Feel free to learn more about Discord and the server at Help:Discord.
For genealogy, I think more people should have two surnames like the Spanish. I am looking at Tamez_Galindo-1. It is very easy to see that his son, Antonio (Tamez_Bermea-2), had a father with the first surname "Tamez" and his mother's first surname was "Bermea".
Hi Jelena, I see you've changed some location names for my relatives including Stanislaus Derdzinski (1868-1955) and Katherine (Coda) Mlodzik (1854-1935). Can you tell me where to find the guidance for this so I get it right? It's distressing to see these changes happen without understanding the rules under which they're being changed. ~ Also, you've change the first and middle names on my relative Jerome Charles Dretzka (1881-1963). Again, I would appreciate a link to the Wikitree guidance. His middle name comes from a USA document, as far as I know he didn't have that middle name in Poland. Thanks, Deb
Hi Deb, the Location Field Style Guide says this: "We aim to use the name that was used in that place, at the time of the event you're recording." At the time of the birth of both Stanislaus and Katherine, their birth town was part of Prussia. This means that according to the Style Guide, the town names should be recorded in German.
Neither in Poland nor in Germany there is the concept of "middle names". All given names come into the First Name Field. "Karl" or "Karel" is the German or Polish version of Charles and was not only used as "call name", the name a person was known with, but also as a following name. We can't prove it, since you don't have documents that originate in Poland, but I suppose that it is a name he already had in Poland. That's why I put it out of the Middle Name Field. Jelena
Took me 2 months to get back to my German profiles. Thank you Jelena ... I truly appreciate the new category and expect to use it when I do status checks on "connected" profiles for my husband's family once Life 101 gives me some time.
Jelena Eckstädt reached the Golden Achievement milestone by sourcing at least one profile in every month of the 2022 Sourcerers Project Sourcerers' Challenge.
We appreciate your consistent work in improving WikiTree through the Sourcerers Project in 2022!
Danke für Deine Initiative zur Orts-Kategorisierung nach (Samt-)Gemeinden. Ich habe meine Heimatgemeinde Gellersen mal erstellt: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Gellersen_%28Samtgemeinde%29%2C_Niedersachsen
Lass mich wissen, ob das so in Deinem Sinne ist, oder ob ich was übersehen habe. Dann mache ich entsprechend weiter (LK Harburg, Lüneburg, Uelzen).
Hi Jelena. I think you have incorrectly edited some profiles I manage like Gottlieb Pfitzner (1827-). You have added Deutscher Bund to the birth field when Posen was not part of the Deutscher Bund. Apart from Posen, I appreciate the corrections you are making. Regards, Steve.
According to the German Wikipedia-entry, the Provinz Posen existed from 1815 to 1920. With these categories I refer to the German Wikipedia rather than the ones in other languages. Also other websites like the "Kulturstiftung der deutschen Vertriebenen", which is supported by the German government says on its website that "already in 1815 the Prussian King named the first Oberpräsident for the area of Posen". Here is the website of the Kulturstiftung https://kulturstiftung.org/zeitstrahl/das-besitznahmepatent-fuer-das-grossherzogtum-posen
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ich hab‘ die Ehefrau von Heinrich von Hofmann gefunden: Asta von Diepenbroick-Grüter. Damit sollte sich der Weg von Heinrich zu Rickmer Rickmers (Astas Großvater) von z.Zt. 31 auf drei verkürzen. :)
Quellen müssen aber noch gefunden und hinzugefügt werden …
edited by Oliver Stegen PhD
Und die einzige Quelle auf Heinrichs Profil ist auch kein OFB. ;-)
edited by Oliver Stegen PhD
Coming of age Leibniz was born on July 1, 1646, the child of Friedrich Leibnütz and Catherina Schmuck. He began spelling his name "Leibniz" early in adult life, but others often referred to him as "Leibnitz," a spelling which persisted until the twentieth century.
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Gottfried_Leibniz
I will copy this discussion onto the profile of Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, so that the discussion about the spelling of his LNAB is obvious there. We can continue to discuss over there.
Jelena, thanks for your work to improve our shared tree.
Jelena, thanks for your work to improve our shared tree.
My ancestors left Germany in 1751, from today’s Biebergemünd, Main-Kinzig Kreis. Even Wikipedia.de does not seem to have enough time resolution for that location.
I like Wikitree, but spins my head. Not at all sure I’d ever find it. 🙂
Thanks for any direction you can give. - Paul
Wikipedia.de has the time resolution, not really for Biebergemünd, because it was only founded in 1974, but for Büchelbach. "1736 starb der letzte Graf von Hanau." So it's "Grafschaft Hanau (more exact Hanau-Münzenberg)". I changed it at Johann Georg Heinrich Reitz.
George's wife is Anna Martha Anna Martha (Unknown) Reitz (1720-aft.1788). I noticed the silent PM was removed, so I gladly take responsibility.
Anna Martha's surname at birth and her family were discovered (2021), so LNAB and ID can now be corrected. But there were at least 4 surname variants found in the church records for her immediate family — [Koler, Koller, Köller, etc.], and no later or American records to know how it might have become settled with increasing literacy.
My concern about doing this properly (and any advice!!) is because it will determine how she is grouped in records. What is normal practice in such a case?
Again, I appreciate your kind direction!
It make me very happy to have this corrected for posterity. No one in the family had any idea of her birth name; I still ponder how that knowledge was lost.
Can you look at Johann Heinrich Walthes (1818-1891) he seems to have 3 wives with the same name. I have no experience with German records. The 3 wives probably need to be merged.
Or can you suggest someone who could do the merges?
I have been trying to help the PM with sourcing on other profiles she manages, but she says its too difficult.
I said I would add the unsourced banner as needed to her managed profiles, so others could source them.
Then I found this profile , the 3 wives were all created by the same PM.
Thanks M
thanks for the comment, I initiated two merges for the person. I hope she does the merges.
ich habe Daten zu Vorfahren vor 1700 für WikiTree (englische Version) und als Quelle "family book" angegeben. Das wird so nicht akzeptiert... Ich weiß allerdings, dass die gesammelten Werke meines Vaters sicher und korrekt sind. Was kann ich tun um meine Ahnen einzutragen, wenn ich keine Beweise habe? LG, Irene
Mein Opa suchte seine Vorfahren weiter zurück als er es für den Ahnenpass gebraucht hätte. Ich habe die Kopien von seinen gesammelten Urkunden. Bei einem seiner Ururopas hatte er Urkunden für die Eltern. Vor etwa drei Jahren sah ich mir auf FamilySearch die nicht indexierte Volkszählung von der Stadt dieser Vorfahren an und fand (identifiziert durch das Geburtsdatum) diesen 4xUropa von mir. In dieser Volkszählung standen seine Eltern drin. Erst freute ich mich. Aber plötzlich dachte ich: "Moment mal, da stimmt was nicht..." Die Eltern aus meinen Urkunden hatten andere Geburtsdaten. Wem soll ich jetzt glauben? Ich habe mich entschieden, der Volkszählung zu glauben und zu sagen, dass mein Opa einen Fehler gemacht hat.
Ein "Familienbuch" ist für Pre1700-Profile leider nicht zuverlässig genug. Dir wird kaum was anderes übrigbleiben als zusätzliche Quellen für deine Vorfahren zu suchen. Du kannst übrigens auch in der "englischen Version" die Quelle auf Deutsch eingeben. WikiTree ist international, auch wenn es die Benutzeroberfläche nur auf Englisch gibt.
danke für die ausführliche Erklärung! Ich habe auch bereits klitzekleine Fehler oder Zahlendreher bei der Familien-Sammlung entdeckt. Jedenfalls finde ich es gut, dass WikiTree die Pre1700 Profile streng kontrolliert. LG, Irene
Jelena, thanks for your efforts to improve our shared tree.
Jelena, thanks for your contributions to the project.
You can see your personal 2023 total and your all time 2021-2023 total on the 2023 tab here: our tracking spreadsheet.
Thanks, Margaret
Barry Walser Ruckpaul via my sons marriage
I didn't look for any sources for Otto Ruckpaul when I edited the profile, now when I looked, I only found the passenger list to New York, but nothing else.
Sorry, but I can't help you.
From wikipedia.de "Deutsches Kaiserreich ist die nachträgliche Bezeichnung des Deutschen Reiches für die Epoche von seiner Gründung 1871 bis zum Ende der Monarchie in der Novemberrevolution von 1918" Why did you change "Deutsches Kaiserreich" to "Deutsches Reich"? Please provide source for your edits. Klaus
Jelena, thanks for your work to improve our shared tree.
I've been working on these in the past, but I'm trying to reduce my "WikiTree time", so I won't be looking at these in the future. As PC for Managed Profiles of the Germany Project, please check weekly for new problems (it's fairly easy to maintain, but took me a couple of months earlier this year to clear them).
Profiles that need corrections this week:
Cheers, Liz
None of the profiles that I listed appear to me to need project management and all of them are either open or managed by you (which means you can fix the problem). As the project's PC for managed profiles, I thought that you would be the person to determine whether or not a profile should be managed by the project & could then refer any profiles that need a Leader to add the project account to the Germany Project's leader.
At least the 4 von Schirach-profiles need Project Management, because all of them are living Notables that have to be managed by a Project to be visible.
Jelena, thanks for your efforts to improve our shared tree.
I've changed the ones that you added to the profiles that weren't managed by the project.
Cheers, Liz
it's annual check-in time 2023. If you still wish to remain a member of the Germany Project, please reply to this post, by stating this intention. If we don’t hear from you in the next 30 days, your membership badge will be removed. In this case please don't be offended ... you're welcome to rejoin at any time. Please also note, that in order to receive help, with researching your German ancestors, membership is not mandatory. Just ask your questions in the G2G forum and tag them with Germany in order for knowledgeable people to see them.
If you wish to remain a member, we would like to learn more about your perception of the Germany Project in order to achieve a future development according to our members needs and wishes. For this, we created a survey, which we kindly ask you to fill-in.
In case you want to communicate, discuss and receive help about WikiTree in German, you might want to check out the WikiTree category at Compgen’s Discourse as well as the German Discord server Ahnenforschung.
Of course there’s still the official WikiTree Discord server, where we usually talk English. Feel free to learn more about Discord and the server at Help:Discord.
Kind regards from Black Forest
Jelena, thanks for your sourcing efforts this month.
Jelena, thanks for your efforts to improve our shared tree.
You’re a trooper. :-)
edited by Deb (Langsdorf) Gunther
Neither in Poland nor in Germany there is the concept of "middle names". All given names come into the First Name Field. "Karl" or "Karel" is the German or Polish version of Charles and was not only used as "call name", the name a person was known with, but also as a following name. We can't prove it, since you don't have documents that originate in Poland, but I suppose that it is a name he already had in Poland. That's why I put it out of the Middle Name Field. Jelena
Jelena, thanks for your work to improve our shared tree.
Many thanks, regards, Margaret, Categorization project.
Jelena, thanks for your work to improve the tree.
We appreciate your consistent work in improving WikiTree through the Sourcerers Project in 2022!
Happy New Year, Jelena, and thanks for your continued sourcing.
Danke für Deine Initiative zur Orts-Kategorisierung nach (Samt-)Gemeinden. Ich habe meine Heimatgemeinde Gellersen mal erstellt: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Gellersen_%28Samtgemeinde%29%2C_Niedersachsen Lass mich wissen, ob das so in Deinem Sinne ist, oder ob ich was übersehen habe. Dann mache ich entsprechend weiter (LK Harburg, Lüneburg, Uelzen).
Grüße! Oliver
edited by Oliver Stegen PhD
Gruß! Jelena