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John Edwards Sr (abt. 1727 - bef. 1801)

John Edwards Sr
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This is the profile of John Edwards of Greenville SC who left a Will dated 1799.

Note: See Often Conflated with Edwards Heirs Scam and Unknown Origins below.

Contents

Biography

John Edwards sold his property in Fauquier County, Virginia, in 1791, and moved to Greenville District, South Carolina, where he died about a decade later.

John married Henrietta (Ayres) Edwards (bef.1729-abt.1809) about 1751 in Prince William County, Virginia.[citation needed]

John Edwards passed away before 16 March 1801.[1]

Children

John and Henrietta's children are (see Family Bibles):

  1. Elizabeth Bridwell[1] (Betty)[2][3]; b. 25 Mar 1752.[2][3]
  2. Joseph[1]; b. 1 Feb 1754.[2][3]
  3. John[1]; b. 5 Jul 1757.[2][3]
  4. Mary Bruce[1]; b. 1 Apr 1760.[2][3]
  5. Thomas[2][3]; b. 10 Apr 1762; [d. young, it seems].[2][3]
  6. Sarah Edward[1]; b. 14 Mar 1765; [d. young, it seems].[2][3]
  7. William[1]; b. 10 Feb 1769.[2][3]

Timeline

1743 Mar 28 - John Edwards witnesses bond of Elizabeth Thornberry, administrator of Richard Thornberry estate (Prince William County).

1743 May 19 - Lease. Benjamin Grayson, Hamilton Parish, Prince William Co., to James Jarvis, Truro, Fairfax Co., blacksmith, 50 A. on Pohick creek leased by Benjamin Grayson of French Mason. Wit. Jno. Sherman, John Edwards. 19 May, 1743, p. 41. (Prince William County Virginia Will & Inventories 1731 - 1732)

1743 Jun 13 - Lease. Charles Cater, Brunswick Parish, King George Co. to David Stuart, of St. Paul s Parish, Stafford Co., clerk, 460 A. n. of Occoquon river, Truro Parish Fairfax Co., bought of Hannah Lee of King George Co. 22 May, 1737. Named in boundaries. Col Robert Carter, on Sandy run. Wit. John Hamilton, John Edwards, Gerrard Trammel. June 16, 1743, p. 53. (Prince William County Virginia Will & Inventories 1731 - 1732)

1743 Nov 10 - John Edwards witnesses the Will of John Page (Prince William County).

1744 Apr 23 - "One orphan boy named John Edwards" to serve out the term of his indenture, according to Will of Thomas Deakers, Prince William County, Va.

1750 Nov 21 - Richard Taylor: Pages 75-76. Late of Parish of Overwharton in Stafford....bound unto George Turbervile of Westmorland Gent. in sum of 100 lb. currant money... dated Nov, 21, 1750. Richard Taylor. Wit: H. Watson, Wm, (X) Gunhill Jr., Wm. (his mark) SCUTT, James Thomas Jr. John Perry, John Edwards, and Thomas (T) McBoyd.

1758 Dec 3 - John Edwards (presumably Sr), Garret Edwards, and James Edwards witnessed the Will of Charles Morgan Sr.[4]

1770 Apr 23 - Indenture between Thomas Ayres and Milly Ayres his wife of Hamilton Parish, Fauquier County, Virginia, and John Edwards of Hamilton Parish, Fauquier County, Virginia, for £38.10.0, 100 acres, in Fauquier County, Virginia, and by Deed of Gift 70 acres more in Fauquier County, Virginia, adjoining the 100 acres, a land plot attached. Signed: Thomas Ayres, Milly Ayres. Witnesses: n/a. Ordered to be recorded at Court held for Fauquier County on 23 April 1770.[5]

These Ayres are relatives of his wife Henrietta. Thomas Acres Ayres named a daughter Henneretta in a Deed of Lease dated 5 December 1729 in King George County.[6]

1770 - John Edwards appears in the rent rolls of Fauquier County, Virginia, in 1770.[7]

1771 - John Edwards appears in Fauquier County, Virginia, road orders dated 26 August 1771 and 23 September 1771. A Thomas Edwards, too old to be John's son, appears in road orders dated 23 March 1764 and 24 March 1772.[8]

1771 Sep 7 - William Settle, Edward Settle, and John Edwards (presumably Sr) witnessed the Will of John Arnold.[9]

1772 Nov 21 - Francis Bronbaugh, Andrew Anderson, Edward Settle, and John Edwards (presumably Sr) witnessed the Will of Jacob Minter.[10]

On 1791 Oct 26, John Edwards Jr sold land adjoining that of Edward Settles.[11]

1777 - John Edwards appears in the rent rolls of Fauquier County, Virginia, in 1777.

1791 Sep 26 - Indenture between John Edwards Senior and Henrietta his wife, John Edwards Junior and Hannah his wife of Fauquier County, Virginia, and James Dobie of Fauquier County, Virginia, for £151.1.8, 185 acres, in Faquier County, Virginia, lying on a branch of great run, being the land where John Edwards Sen'r. and John Edwards Jun'r now liveth … Signed: John Edwards Sen'r. (his mark), Henrietta Edwards (her mark), John Edwards (his mark), Hannah Edwards (her mark). Witnesses: James Routt, Baylor Jennings, John Bronaugh. Ordered to be recorded at Court held for Faquier County on 26 Sept 1791.[12]

1791 Sep 26 - After selling the land on which they lived in Faquier County, John is presumed at that time to have moved to Greenville District, South Carolina.[12]

Will

Last Will and Testament of John Edwards[1]
Greenville County, South Carolina.
29 Sep 1799.
16 March 1801 (proved).

[below transcript needs to be reviewed against the image; are there other images? some differences already found and corrected Spratlin-29 21:23, 13 August 2023 (UTC)]

In the Name of God Amen.

I John Edwards of the County of Greenville and State of South Carolina being at present of sound mind and perfect senses, do make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner following, to-wit, namely, viz:

I give and bequeath my soul to Almighty God that first gave it me and my boy to be decently buried at the discretion of my executors hereinafter mentioned.

Impremise, I give and bequeath my who estate real and personal to my beloved wife Henrietta Edwards, during her natural life except what is hereafter mentioned to my children.

Item. I give and unto my daughter Sarah Edward one negro girl Lucy, one bed and furniture commonly called her bed, also one chest to her and her heirs forever.

Item. I give and bequeath to my son William Edwards one negro boy named Jack to him and his heirs forever, to be possessed of after the death of my beloved wife.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter Elizabeth Bridwell a negro woman named Hannah to her and her heirs forever, to be possessed of at the death of my beloved wife.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter Mary Bruce one negro boy named Leroy to her and her heirs to be possessed of at the death of my wife.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my son Joseph Edwards one negro boy named Thornton to him and his heirs to be possessed of at the death of my wife.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my son John Edwards one negro girl named Carrie also one chest know by the name of my chest, to him and his heirs forever, to be possessed of at the death of my wife.

Item. At the death of my beloved wife, Henrietta Edwards, I leave the remainder of my estate to be equally divided among my six children namely; Elizabeth, Joseph, Mary, John, William and Sarah.

And lastly, I constitute and appoint my wife Henrietta Edwards Executrix together with my friend Thos. Edwards and Pleasand Hudson Executors of this my last will and Testament, revoking and disannulling all former Wills by me made. In witness I have set my hand and seal this 29th of Sept. 1799.

Signed: John Edwards (his mark).
Witnesses: Mary Ann Edwards, Tho's. Edwards.
Executors: my wife Henrietta Edwards, my friend Tho's. Edwards, Pleasant Hudson.

on the back of this Will the following are inserted Supposing John Edward never should come
Item I will and bequeath whats left to him to my daughter Sarah Edwards to wit one negro girl named Carry one chest also one cow & calf

Signed: John Edwards (his mark).
Witnesses: Joseph McAfee, George Ross.

proven the 16th March 1801 by Tho's. and Mary Edwards & Recorded this 26th day of June 1809 by me.

Death and Burial

John Edwards passed away before 16 March 1801.[1]

John is purported to be buried in Edwards Family Cemetery in Greenville County, South Carolina.[13]

Research Notes

  • Needs Research: This profile needs a complete review to identity and remove information and sources associated with the Edwards Heir Scam. Spratlin-29 18:26, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Place Creation

  • Prince William County was established on 17 Jun 1730 from Stafford County and King George County.
  • Fauquier County was established on 5 Apr 1758 from Prince William County.

Often Conflated with Edwards Heirs Scam

This John Edwards (abt.1727-bef.1801), who left a Will in Greenville County, South Carolina, in 1799, is often conflated with the John Edwards (1727-) of the Edwards Heir Scam.[14]

Not His Parents: The identity of a John Edwards (1727-) as a son of Thomas Nathaniel Edwards Sr (1690-1781) and Isabelle (Downing) Edwards comes from the grafting of a fictional John Edwards onto family trees of real people named Edwards to promote a scam in the early 20th century - the Edwards Heirs scam.[14] The profile of that John Edwards (1727-) has an Uncertain Existence research note box.

This John Edwards (abt.1727-bef.1801) was described as an "orphan boy" [presumably the same person] in an April 1744 order of the Prince William County Court, which is impossible if his father - purportedly Thomas Nathaniel Edwards Sr (1690-1781) - was still living.[14]

Conflated?

In the Timeline, note events are listed between 1743 Mar 28 and 1744 Apr 23 in which John Edwards is witnessing multiple legal transactions, while also being an orphan. This doesn't seem likely. Spratlin-29 04:32, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Vital Statistics

Birth
John's birth date is estimated from his marriage date, (about 1751 - 24 years)=about 1727. His birth place is unknown. His parents are unknown (see Unknown Origins below).

He is believed to be the "orphan boy" of the 23 April 1744 record (see Records, above). He would be referred to as an orphan if his father was dead and he was under 21, which means that he was not yet 21 on that date and, therefore, born after 23 April 1723.

Considering that this John is believed to be the same John who sold land in 1791, and men had to be "of age" to sell land, he was born before 1770.

An unsourced birth of 10 Feb 1727 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales, was previously listed. This birth date and place is associated with the John Edwards (1727-) of the Edwards Heir Scam.[14] Spratlin-29 18:26, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Marriage
Family accounts suggest that by the time of his marriage in 1751, John Edwards lived in the section of Prince William County, Virginia, which broke off into Fauquier County in 1759. However, a John Edwards appears in the Tithables List of Prince William County in 1765.[15]

Unknown Origins

John Edwards was very likely an older brother of Gerrard, James and Samuel Edwards of Prince William County and Fauquier County, Virginia. This family's origin is unknown, but associations in Fauquier suggest they may have been from Richmond County, Virginia. See the evidence: "Identifying Gerrard Edwards of Fauquier County, Virginia".

Family Bibles

The Sources list includes Memory Aldridge Lester's book Old Southern Bible Records.[2][3] Two Edwards family Bibles are abstracted there:

  • John Edwards Sr. Bible
  • Joseph Edwards Bible

Below are these two abstracts verbatim from the 1974 edition. The 1962 and 1974 editions agree in the names of the children and their birth dates. Lester apparently provides compiler notes in parentheses "(…)" in the 1962 edition and brackets "[…]" in the 1974 edition. These notes presumably are sourced from other than the family Bibles, but if so, those sources are not provided.

JOHN EDWARDS, SR.
John Edwards, Sr. & wife, Henrietta
Children
Betty b. 25 Mar 1752
Joseph b. 1 Feb 1754
John, Jr. b. 5 July 1757
Mary b. 1 Apr 1760
Thomas b. 10 Apr 1762 [d. young, it seems]
Sarah b. 14 Mar 1765 [d. young, it seems]
William b. 10 Feb 1769
[John Edwards, Sr. came from Wales & settled in Fauquier Co., Va. His eldest, Betty m. Bridwell]
JOSEPH EDWARDS
Joseph & wife, Mary
Children
John b. 27 Dec 1776
Sarah b. 17 … 1777 [month not legible]
Joseph b. 1 Jan 1781
Sanford b. 17 Feb 1783
Thomas b. 20 May 1791
William b. 12 June 1786
James b. 20 Sep 1794
[L. Andrea, Columbia, S.C. says, "Jos. Edwards served in the War of 1776." The Bible states, "The Edwards & Bridwells came from Va. to Greenville, S.C. about 1790. Joseph Edwards, III." At bottom of Bible, "Jos., III & wife Betsy had ch. Hiram, Jesse, Nancy, Sarah, Lennial, Betsy Ann & Joseph." Bible pub. 1787 in Edinboro, Scotland, owned by W. M. Edwards, Taylors, S.C.]

Observations:

  • The information that John immigrated from Wales is bracketed, and therefore not sourced from the Bible.
  • Sarah did not die young as she is named in John's 1799 Will.
  • A daughter Nancy, born c.1761, (see Sources for Children) is NOT listed.

Possible Additional Sources for Children

[These more properly belong in the profiles of the respective children. Spratlin-29 21:23, 13 August 2023 (UTC)]

This list compiles information from various sources about his children:

The names and birthdates of his children were reportedly written in an old account book belonging to John Edwards and submitted by a descendant of his in Greenville. They were all reportedly born in Fauquier County, Virginia, though prior to 1759, this was in Prince William County.[16]

DAR Sources

The DAR sources listed here (13 Aug 2023) need to be reviewed for accuracy and that they are correctly cited here for the facts reliably sourced. At least two of the DAR person profiles have warnings on them cautioning about their use. Spratlin-29 21:23, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

The DAR record of John Edwards, who was purportedly born 1727 in Wales and died before 16 March 1801, Greenville District, South Carolina,[17] has the following Notice:

Problems have been discovered with at least one previously verified paper - see ancestor's full record.
FAMPCL-Maiden name of Mary, wife of son Joseph, has not been proven. See DATACF and Joseph Edwards A036723. 3/2015.[17]

The DAR record of son Joseph has the following Notice:[18]

Future applicants must prove correct service.
1) R13943, his claim for wagoneer service.
2) Cannot verify that he really served in any capacity. See DATACF.
3) Alternate ancestor if father, John Edwards Sr, A036689.

Analysis of 1800 Census

The 1800 Census for Greenville, South Carolina[21] shows a John Edwards head of household, aged 45 or older, with 6 women (one aged 45 or older, four "of twenty-six and under 45", one 16-25), and 6 slaves.[20]

Given what is known of this John's family, the older John in the census is most likley him and his wife (born by c1735 to be aged 45+ in 1800), although none of the other women are old enough to be their daughters (26-44 = born between c1736 and c1774; 16-25 = born between c1775 and c1784). Perhaps they are grandchildren, children of his son John, of whom the Will says "Supposing John Edwards never should come..." - meaning he was not there in September 1799.

Household of John Edwards, Sr.
  • 1 free white man aged 45+ (born by c1735): John Edwards
  • 1 free white woman aged 45+ (born by c1735): Henrietta
  • 4 free white women 26-44 (c1736 - c1774)
  • 1 free white woman aged 16-25 (c1775 - c1784)
  • 6 slaves

On page 262, there appear a John Edwards and a William Edwards (neither household had any slaves).[20] John is perhaps a grandson (this John's son John was born in 1757); William is probably his son.

Household of John Edwards [III?]
  • 1 free white male 16-25 (born c1775 - c1784): John Edwards
  • 1 free white femail 16-15 (born 1775 - c1784): probably his wife
  • 1 free white female under 10 (born c1790-1800): probably his daughter
Household of William Edwards
  • 1 free white male 26-45 (born c1736 - c1774): William Edwards born 1768[2][3]
  • 1 free white female 26-45 (born c1736 - c1774): probably his wife
  • 3 free white males under 10 (born c1790-1800): probably sons
  • 1 free white female under 10 (born c1790-1800): probably his daughter

The following household, found on the page before John Sr., is probably not his son, considering the number and ages of younger members in the household.[22]

Household of (another) William Edwards
  • 1 free white male 45+ (born c1736-c1774): William Edwards
  • 3 white males under 10
  • 2 white males 10-15
  • 1 white male 16-25
  • 1 white female under 10
  • 1 white female 10-15
  • 1 white female 16-25

The previous page (two pages before John Sr.) is likely his son Joseph.[23]

Household of Joseph Edwards
  • 1 free white male 26-44 (born c1736 - c1774): Joseph Edwards born 1754[2][3]
  • 1 free white female 26-44: probably his wife
  • 4 free white males under 10: one may be Thomas, born 1791[24]
  • 1 free white male 10-15
  • 1 free white female 10-15
  • 1 slave [faint, but looks like a 1]

Enslaved People

The 1800 Census[21] shows that the elder John's household included six slaves.[20] John's 1799 Will includes bequests of six people to his children:

  • Sarah, a negro girl (to Lucy)
  • Jack, a negro boy (to William)
  • Hannah, a negro woman (to Elizabeth)
  • Leroy, a negro boy (to Mary)
  • Thornton, a negro boy (to son Joseph)
  • Carrie, a negro girl (to son John)

Patriotic Service

John's patriotic service (furnished supplies) was performed in Fauquier County, Virginia.[17] His DAR record shows his wife as Henrietta and his children as Joseph (married Mary) and John Jr. (married Sarah "Sally" O'Neil). Note - the only children listed by the DAR are those who have a descendant that joined DAR based on their relationship to the patriot ancestor through that child.

John's son Joseph has a DAR record with the comment that it could not be verified "that he really served in any capacity", referencing R13943 (the transcription of which includes a note that his "claim was not allowed because service as a waggoner in the militia was not construed as military service by the Pension Office, contrary to its own regulations"). Joseph states in his pension application of 14 October 1833 that he was born 1 or 2 February 1754 in Fauquier County, Virginia and that he "has lived in Greenville District South Carolina where he now lives, ever since the Revolutionary War."[18][25]

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 Probate Court, Greenville County, Miscellaneous probate records, 1787-1868, Will books, Vols. A-B 1787-1840, p191-192; database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-JDSZ-V8), images 105-106.
  2. ↑ 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 Memory Aldridge Lester (compiler), Old Southern Bible Records Vol. 7 (Chapel Hill, North Carolina: 1962), p113; digital images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/44594/?offset=#page=119), image 119.
  3. ↑ 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 Memory Aldridge Lester (compiler), Old Southern Bible Records: Transcriptions of Births, Deaths, and Marriages from Family Bibles, Chiefly of the 18th and 19th Centuries (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1974), p117; digital images, Google Books (https://www.google.com/books/edition/Old_Southern_Bible_Records_Transcription/qgQRciE16IIC?gbpv=1&bsq=John%20Edwards)
  4. ↑ Abstract of Charles Morgan Sr Will. [find source with image]
  5. ↑ County Court, Fauquier County, Virginia, Deed books, 1759-1866 ; indexes to deeds, 1759-1914, Deed books, v. 3-4 1767-1772; database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4V-Y9QG-N), images 314-315.
  6. ↑ King George County, Virginia, Deed Book 1:635.
  7. ↑ 1770 Rent Rolls, John Edwards, 100. See Garrett Edwards, 219, also. [find source with image]
  8. ↑ Ann Brush Miller, Historic Roads of Virginia, Fauquier County Road Orders, 1759–1783 (Richmond, Virginia, 2019), p20, pp52-53, p56; digital copy, Virginia Department of Transportation (http://www.virginiadot.org/vtrc/main/online_reports/pdf/19-r22.pdf).
  9. ↑ Abstract of John Arnold Will. [find source with image]
  10. ↑ Abstract of Jacob Minter. [find source with image]
  11. ↑ County Court, Faquier County, Virginia, Deed books, 1759-1866 ; indexes to deeds, 1759-1914, Deed books, v. 10-11 1788-1794; database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4C-M99M-S), image 274.
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 County Court, Faquier County, Virginia, Deed books, 1759-1866 ; indexes to deeds, 1759-1914, Deed books, v. 10-11 1788-1794; database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4C-M999-B), images 227-228.
  13. ↑ Find A Grave: Memorial #102911199 for John Edwards Sr. (1727–1801) (memorial only, no gravestone photo).
  14. ↑ 14.0 14.1 14.2 14.3 The John Edwards (1727-) of the Edwards Heir Scam.
  15. ↑ Greg Mason (compiler), Prince William County People, 1723–1782) (14 March 2012), p30; digital copy, Prince William County Library (http://eservice.pwcgov.org/library/digitallibrary/PDF/Prince%20William%20County%20People,%201723-1782.pdf).
  16. ↑ 16.0 16.1 16.2 16.3 16.4 16.5 16.6 16.7 16.8 Citation Needed.
  17. ↑ 17.0 17.1 17.2 17.3 17.4 Daughters of the American Revolution, DAR Genealogical Research Databases, database online, (http://www.dar.org/ : accessed 2 June 2021), "Record of John Edwards", Ancestor # A036689. [citation incomplete; which DAR application(s) and reliable sources listed there are being referred to? are they affected by the problems described on the DAR site? ~~~~]
  18. ↑ 18.0 18.1 18.2 DAR: Ancestor #A036723
  19. ↑ Find A Grave: Memorial #81666319 for his son, John Edwards (1757–1811) (memorial only, no gravestone photo).
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 20.2 20.3 See this page for the questions asked in the 1800 Census and the FamilySearch image of page 261 of the census and the following page, accessed 20 April 2022.
  21. ↑ 21.0 21.1 "United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRC-995 : accessed 28 September 2018), John Edwards, Greenville, South Carolina, United States; citing p. 261, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 47; FHL microfilm 181,422.
  22. ↑ "United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR8K-DL1?cc=1804228&wc=3V1X-HF3%3A1585150102%2C1585150237%2C1585148307 : 10 June 2015), South Carolina > Greenville > Not Stated [William Edwards] > image 37 of 87 (the page before John Sr, so p 215); citing NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  23. ↑ "United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R8K-DNC?cc=1804228&wc=3V1X-HF3%3A1585150102%2C1585150237%2C1585148307 : 10 June 2015), South Carolina > Greenville > Not Stated [Joseph Edwards] > image 36 [page 214] of 87; citing NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  24. ↑ From a DAR descendant's record (which needs collaboration), Joseph's son Thomas is said to have been born in Virginia in 1791 - the same record has Agnes, Thomas's wife, as born in 1785, which would be unusual for the time (for a woman to be 6 years older than her husband). ~ DAR descendant record for Thomas, a son of Joseph Edwards (DAR Patriot Ancestor #A036723), accessed 20 April 2022.
  25. ↑ C. Leon Harris (transcriber), Pension Application of Joseph Edwards R13943, Southern Campaign American Revolution Pension Statements & Rosters (http://revwarapps.org/r13943.pdf).

See also:

  • Will/Deed/Order books, Prince William and Fauquier County, Virginia. [which ones?!]

See also - review and incorporate:

See also - other family trees:

See also - conflated records

  • Record for a John Edwards, 5 October 1770, invalid soldier in UK Royal Hospital, age 43, born at Wolverhamption [?], West Midlands, England.

See also - other family trees (Edwards Heir Scam):

  • FamilySearch Person: LVLW-1JF for John Edwards (1727–1801) [unreliable tree; incorporates disproven relationships from the Edwards Heir Scam]

Acknowledgements

Research by Jason M. Farrell.





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Ken Spratlin
The birth date and place was edited yet again to reflect a date/place associated with the Edwards Heirs Scam. This change was not collaborated.

The link to the person profile on FamilySearch that was added on 23 April along with the prior date/place change has now been labeled in the See also sources as unreliable as it reflects the Edwards Heirs Scam.

It appears no reliable source for the birth date/place was contained in the biography, research notes, or sources. I changed the date to an estimated year based on his marriage, and deleted the unsourced place. A research note has been added documenting the unsourced date/place that was removed.

Please review US Southern Colonies Project Editing Guidance before editing. Reliable sources are required.

Ken Spratlin, Managed Profiles Coordinator, US Southern Colonies Project

posted by Ken Spratlin
edited by Ken Spratlin
Ken Spratlin
The birth date and place were edited without source on 23 April 2023 from 1727 in Virginia to 1727-02-10 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales. A FamilySearch tree was added to the sources at the same time, but the relationship between the birth date and place edit and the source was not stated in the edit.

It is noted that the FamilySearch tree appears to contain the same parents as described in the research note regarding the Edwards Heirs Scam.

Please review US Southern Colonies Project Editing Guidance before editing.

posted by Ken Spratlin
edited by Ken Spratlin
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
this profile and the other have been edited to clarify the situation

Hi Southern Colonies Project! I've been following up on postponed merges and I just shifted the unmerged match with the fictional Edwards-11785 to be a rejected match. However, the text for that profile was developed and gave it a "real" feeling. I just copied the text from it to this profile (as hidden text) and intend to update this profile by merging the existing text with that from Edwards-11785 (and then revising Edwards-11785 to better portray the fictional John).

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi again! I've finished what I set out to do.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Jason F.
Hello, please do not attach this man to the fictitious Thomas Nathaniel Edwards family. That connection has been thoroughly debunked. Thank you!
posted by Jason F.
Jason F.
Edwards-8423 and Edwards-9084 appear to represent the same person because: These two men definitely represent the same person who lived in Fauquier County Virginia in the mid-18th century and died in Greenville Co., SC, husband of Henrietta Ayers, as indicated by Fauquier County deeds. Open to discuss parentage/children/etc. but I'm working to fix decades worth of damage done by fabrications in the "Edwards Heirs" newsletters currently and consolidating these profiles is an important part of that. If you have an objection, please message me. Thanks!
posted on Edwards-9084 (merged) by Jason F.
Jason F.
Edwards-14938 and Edwards-8423 appear to represent the same person because: The John Edwards of Greenville Co., SC (d. 1799-1801) has been assigned to a probably fictitious couple (Thomas Nathaniel Edwards and Elizabeth Dowling), though evidence suggests he was more likely a son of John Edwards of Jane Arrington of Westmoreland Co., VA. The latter parents had several well-documented relatives in the vicinity, including brother Thomas Edwards of Prince William County and a son, Andrew Edwards, proprietor of Edwards Tavern in Fauquier Court House (formed from Prince William in 1759). John Edwards was described as an "orphan boy" in Prince William orders in April 1744; this makes sense because his father, John, had died in King George County in late 1743 and he was an "orphan" because he was not yet age 21 (he would have been around 17 or 18 years old). John Edwards jr. sold his property in Fauquier Co. in 1791 and moved to SC, where he wrote his will in 1799. So I am initiating this merge to clear up the misconception that he is a son of "Thomas Nathaniel Edwards."
posted by Jason F.
Jason F.
Edwards-8925 and Edwards-8423 do not represent the same person because: Ted's research shows this is a different man, who died in 1819 in Lincoln Co., NC
posted by Jason F.
Jason F.
There is a conflict here with another John Edwards (Edwards-8423) who died in Greenville SC. This profile either needs to be merged with Edwards-8423 since they are evidently the same person, or the death date/place for this John Edwards should be removed.
posted on Edwards-14938 (merged) by Jason F.
Jason F.
Unless anyone objects, I'd like to unlink this profile from Thomas Nathaniel Edwards and link him to his correct parents, John Edwards and Jane Arrington of Westmoreland County, Virginia.
posted by Jason F.
Gaulden-7 Mags Gaulden
Hey Mickey,

I am working on the source-a-thon and Greenville SC connections that are unsourced. Hope to add sources and info.

Mags

posted on Edwards-14938 (merged) by Mags Gaulden

Rejected matches › John Edwards (aft.1758-1819) › John Edwards (1727-)

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