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Winnifred (Elder) Jones (1733 - abt. 1804)

Winnifred "Winnie" Jones formerly Elder
Born in Farnham, Richmond, Virginiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 70 in Brunswick, Virginia, United Statesmap
Profile last modified | Created 1 Sep 2011
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Contents

Biography

BIRTH

Winnefred Elder
Birth: 07 Sep 1733 in Richmond Co., Virginia, per North Farnham Parish records
Winnefred is twin sister of Mary Ann.
Birth Record:
FamilySearch.com, Virginia, Births and Christenings, 1853-1917 [1]
Name: Winnefred Elder
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 07 Sep 1733
Christening Place: NORTH FARNHAM PARISH,RICHMOND,VIRGINIA
Father's Name: William Elder
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C50538-1 , System Origin: Virginia-ODM , GS Film number: 975.523 V2K

DEATH

Death: probably about 1804, based on tax records thru 1803.
Place of Death: assume Brunswick County, Virginia, based on tax records.
Tax Records:
Personal Property Tax lists include Winnifred Lenoir for the years 1795-1797, 1799, 1801-1803
[Brunswick County, Virginia, Personal Property Tax Lists, 1782-1807; Microfilm Reel 56, Library of Virginia].

PARENTAGE

Parents: William Elder and Ann (maiden name unknown)
Winnefred's parents are listed in her Christening record (see birth)
Winnefred was named in her father's Will.
Her father William Elder's Will, written 24 Apr 1754, proved 3 Feb 1755.
[Reference profile of father, William Elder, for entire Will transcript.]
Winnefred was give five shillings, and the unborn child of a negro slave.

MARRIAGE

Assume Winnefred Elder was single at age of 21, when father's Will was written in 1754.
Note: Winnefred's sister, Elizabeth, was referenced by married name in father's Will, but Winnefred was not.
NEED to CONFIRM is any dates from assumed 1st marriage or children conflicts with Winnefred being single in 1754.
Assume Winnefred married twice. (1) Henry Jones and (2) Robert Lenoir.
Assumption is based on:
1) Robert Lenoir (2nd husband) was guardian of Susannah and Henry Jones.
2) Henry Jones Jr. (son) has children Winnie Elder Jones, John Elder Jones.
3) The 1792 will of Robert Lenoir (assumed husband), named wife Winifred.
Reference:
History of Barbour County Alabama by Mattie Thomas Thompson,
Originally published in Eufaula, Alabama, in 1939
Digital version at Ancestry.com
(pages 428-435 is the biography of Henry Jones Jr., the assumed son)
Possible contradictions:
1) Some genealogies say Robert Lenoir married Winnefred Fisher, daughter of James Fisher.
2) Some genealogies say Robert Lenoir's 1st wife was indeed a daughter of James Fisher, but not Winnefred, and then say Robert Lenoir's 2nd wife was the widow Winnifred Jones (maiden Elder)
Marriage date of Winnefred Elder-Jones to 2nd husband Robert Lenoir:
assume between 1762 and 1764.
1762 is birth of child Henry by 1st husband.
1764 is guardianship of children by 2nd husband.

1st HUSBAND

Henry Jones Sr., son of Wood Jones, and grandson of Major Peter Jones.
Death: about 1762, per book reference (below)
Place of Death: probably Dinwiddie County, Virginia, per book reference (below)
The below reference is a biography of his son Henry Jones Jr (b.1762), but it starts out with his great-grandfather, grandfather, father.
Reference:
History of Barbour County Alabama by Mattie Thomas Thompson,
Originally published in Eufaula, Alabama, in 1939
Digital version at Ancestry.com
(pages 428-435 is the biography of his son Henry Jones Jr., born 1762 )
(LBA note: I have inserted SR and JR into the excerpt to avoid confusion)
Excerpt:
… Major Peter Jones, son of Abram Jones, married Mary Wood, daughter of General Abram Wood, once commanded a fort that was located at the falls of Appomattox. His will, dated Jan. 19, 1721, probated Jan. 10, 1726, recorded in Prince County, Va., names 10 children, as follows: Peter, William, Thomas, John, Wood, Abraham, Mary, Ann, Margaret and Martha. He devises 100 acres of land lying on the Great Creek on Nottoway River to his son, Wood Jones, grandfather of Henry Jones [JR], the subject of this sketch. it is not known whom Wood Jones married nor the names of his children, except his son Henry Jones [SR], who married Winnie Elder, by whom he had two children: Susannah and Henry [JR], the subject of this sketch. Henry [SR] died before his son Henry [JR] was born. His [SR's] widow, Winnie Elder Jones, married a second husband, Robert Lenoir, to whom she bore several children. Now we come to Henry Jones [JR], the subject of this sketch. He [JR] was born near the Nottoway River in Dinwiddie County, Va., Feb. 9, 1762. After his [JR's] mother's second marriage his step-father, Robert Lenoir, became his guardian …

2nd HUSBAND

Robert Lenoir
Death: about 1793, per his will
Place of Death: assume Brunswick County, Virginia, per his will and tax records
The will of Robert Lenoir, dated 30 Oct 1792 and proved 24 Jun 1793, named wife Winifred and children Elizabeth James, Fisher, Winifred Chealy, Thomas, William, Lewis, Ann, Robert Crawley, and John. He also left bequests to grandchildren Francis Fisher Lenoir and John Peterson Lenoir. Robert C. and John were to stay with their mother until of age or married. He loaned to wife Winifred the land and plantation he lived on and other goods, to be sold upon her death. Executors: friend John Wilson, John Pease James, Joseph Chealy and wife Winifred. Witnesses: Jonathan Fisher, Robert Dunkley, John Latimer and George Latimer.
[Bradley, Brunswick County, Virginia, Will Books, Volume 4, 1795-1804, page 67 (Will Book 5, page 510]
Land Tax lists show Robert Lenoir deceased with 265 acres most years from 1800-1804, and the 1805 list shows John Lenoar (sic) with 265 acres conveyed by Robert Lenoar
[Brunswick County, Virginia, Land Tax Lists, 1800-13; Microfilm Reel 46, Library of Virginia]

GUARDIANSHIP OF CHILDREN

Robert Lenoir was guardian of Susanna and Henry Jones, orphans of Henry Jones deceased.
Robert Lenoir submitted guardian accounts in Brunswick County in 1764.
[Brunswick County, Virginia, Orphan Book, 1740-1781, page 249; Microfilm Reel 52, Library of Virginia]
Robert Lenoir submitted guardian accounts in Brunswick County in 1783.
[Brunswick County, Virginia, Guardians Accounts, 1780-1808, page 20; Microfilm Reel 3 (also contains Deed Book 3), Library of Virginia]

OTHER

CHILD:
FamilySearch.com, Virginia, Marriages, 1785-1940
Name: Benjamin Wilson
Spouse's Name: Ann Lanior
Spouse's Birth Date: 1776
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 08 Dec 1797
Event Place: Brunswick, Virginia
Spouse's Mother's Name: Winniephred Lenoir <--------
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86857-6 , System Origin: Virginia-EASy , GS Film number: 30631 , Reference ID: 101

Sources

  1. Virginia Births and Christening, 7 Sep 1733 for Winnefred Elder.




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Elder-401 and Elder-288 appear to represent the same person because: relationships and dates match up

appear to be duplicated by accident due to using nickname Winnie

posted by Abigail (Clark) Sylvia
Elder-2272 and Elder-401 appear to represent the same person because: same first name, last name, maiden name, nick name, birth year/state, death state
posted on Elder-401 (merged) by Anonymous Nagel
Elder-2359 and Elder-401 appear to represent the same person because: same first name, maiden name, nick name, last name, birth year/state, spouse, death state.
posted on Elder-401 (merged) by Anonymous Nagel
Elder-2359 and Elder-2272 appear to represent the same person because: same first name, nickname, last name, maiden name, same birth year/state, same death year/state.
posted on Elder-401 (merged) by Anonymous Nagel
Father Henry Jones, (son?), b. 1735, Dinwiddle, Dinwiddle Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 1818, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 83 years)

Mother Winnefred "Winnie" Elder, b. 7 Sep 1733, North Farnham Parish, Richmond Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Abt 1820 (Age 86 years) Married 1760 Dinwiddle, Dinwiddle Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location Family ID F31056 Group Sheet | Family Chart

Family 1 Sarah "Sally" Lightfoot, b. 9 Dec 1761, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 1795, Paris, Lamar Co, Texas Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 33 years) Married 16 Dec 1786 Brunswick Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location Children 1. William Jones, b. 26 Mar 1789, d. Aft 1800 (Age 11 years) + 2. Henry Lightfoot Jones, b. 16 Sep 1791, Georgia Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 21 Apr 1865, Bienville Parish, Louisiana Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 73 years) 3. Thomas Jones, b. 8 Mar 1793, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Aft 1800 (Age 7 years) Last Modified 7 May 2016 Family ID F31909 Group Sheet | Family Chart

Family 2 Mary Hogan, b. 1776, Pendleton, Anderson Co, South Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 1850, Montezuema, Covington Co, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 74 years) Married Abt 1795 Children + 1. William Britton Jones, b. 1797, South Carolina (or North Carolina) Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 19 Jul 1877, Dodge Co, Georgia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years) Last Modified 2 Jan 2016 Family ID F31057 Group Sheet | Family Chart

Family 3 Ellender (..) Jones, b. 1810, Georgia Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Aft 1850, of, Barbour Co, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 41 years) Married Abt 1837 Children 1. Joseph Jones, b. 1838, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Aft 1850, of, Barbour Co, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 13 years) 2. Benjamin Jones, b. 1842, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Aft 1850, of, Barbour Co, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 9 years) Last Modified 7 May 2016 Family ID F31908 Group Sheet | Family Chart

posted on Elder-401 (merged) by Mel Jones
Does the “PETER ELDER” book by Lee ELDER -- Rev. Ed Jan 2000, have any sources?
posted on Elder-401 (merged) by L Adcox
Page 291 of “PETER ELDER” book by Lee ELDER -- Rev. Ed Jan 2000, computer printout, spiral binding. -- More editions: New York Public Library.

Y-DNA kits #35714 (WIKI Elder-2044), -- #557353 (WIKI Elder-2047) and 16 other matches on ELDER DNA RESULTS CHART at https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder?iframe=yresults

Also WorldConnect (public access) -- by “Laura Van Hees” -- Name: Winnifred Elder -- Birth: 7 Sept 1733 in N Farnham Parish, Richmond, VA

Father: WILLIAM Edmund Elder b: 1687 in Old Rappahanock, VA

Mother: ANN Wheeler b: 1692 in Richmond Cty, VA??

Marriage 1 Henry "Batte" Jones b: 1726 in Dinwiddie Co, VA -- Married: 1757 -- Children -- 1. Susannah Jones b: 1760 in Dinwiddie Co, VA -- 2. Henry Jr Jones b: 9 Feb 1762 in Dinwiddie Co, VA

Docs http://www.peterelderva.info

posted on Elder-401 (merged) by Nancy Elder
Page 291 of “PETER ELDER” book by Lee ELDER -- Rev. Ed Jan 2000, computer printout, spiral binding. -- More editions: New York Public Library.

Y-DNA kits #35714 (WIKI Elder-2044), -- #557353 (WIKI Elder-2047) and 16 other matches on ELDER DNA RESULTS CHART at https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder?iframe=yresults

Also WorldConnect (public access) -- by “Laura Van Hees” -- Name: Winnifred Elder -- Birth: 7 Sept 1733 in N Farnham Parish, Richmond, VA

Father: WILLIAM Edmund Elder b: 1687 in Old Rappahanock, Virginia

Mother: ANN Wheeler b: 1692 in Richmond Cty, VA??

Marriage 1 Henry "Batte" Jones b: 1726 in Dinwiddie Co, VA -- Married: 1757 -- Children -- 1. Susannah Jones b: 1760 in Dinwiddie Co, VA -- 2. Henry Jr Jones b: 9 Feb 1762 in Dinwiddie Co, VA

Documents by Robert Elder at http://www.peterelderva.info

posted on Elder-401 (merged) by Nancy Elder
Elder-401 and Elder-1960 appear to represent the same person because: please compare
posted on Elder-401 (merged) by Allan Harl Thomas (1951-2021)

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