Fulbert (Falaise) de Falaise

Fulbert (Falaise) de Falaise (abt. 0978 - abt. 1022)

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Fulbert "chamberlain" de Falaise formerly Falaise
Born about in Falaise, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, Francemap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Husband of — married about [location unknown]
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Died about in Normandy, Francemap
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Fulbert de Falaise, Chamberlain,[1] was the father of Arlette or Herleve, mistress of Robert of Normandy.[2]

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Biography

WikiTree | 26 Mar 2014 -- Recent scholarship discounts Fulbert as a tanner. This is based on examination of the original source, the context of Duke William's mockery, and the Latin and French words later chroniclers had trouble translating.[3]

Family

The earliest accounts of Fulbert's daughter, Herleva, come from Orderic Vitalis. They were not written down until 80 years after she met Robert the Magnificent. It was only through Wace and Benoit in the 12th century, and later 17th century writings, that she became known as a the daughter of tanner.[3]

Occupation

In fact, Fulbert was probably a mortician. He is described as, "a person who laid out corpses," and "might have embalmed bodies." As Chamberlain of the ducal court, this was one of Fulbert's duties, and most likely the backdrop of the heckling which resulted in Duke William's bloody retribution.[3][4][5]

Sources

Bibliography


  • Cawley, C. (2006). Medieval Lands. fmg.ac.[11][1]
  • Van Houts, E.M.C. (1986). "The origins of Herleva, mother of William the Conqueror." The English Historical Review, 101(399), pp. 399-404. Oxford University Press. JSTOR. Retrieved 26 Mar 2014.
  • "William "the Conqueror" (Guillaume 'le Conquérant')." Henry II Project.[12][1]


Citations and Notes 2014 and 15 Jun 2016


  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Cawley (2006), lists Fulbert de Falaise and Doda (Duwa) UNKNOWN, as the parents of Herlave (living 1049). Baldwin (2006), at The Henry Project, does not name a wife for Fulbert. Also note that both sites terminate Herlave's pedigree with Fulbert, with nothing more known.[1][2]
  2. Richardson, D. Royal Ancestry, V, p. 487
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 Van Houts, 1986
  4. also see Palgrave, 1831, p. 343.[3] ... The author notes the reports of Herlave's father - one as a courier from Falaise, and another as a duke's chamberlain.
  5. William had the body parts of his hecklers chopped off, (Van Houts, 1986)

Bio#2

Jack Day's Work in Progress

"Cawley (2006), lists Fulbert de Falaise and Doda (Duwa) UNKNOWN, as the parents of Herlave (living 1049)."[1]

"Note that Cawley (2006), terminates Herlave's pedigree with Fulbert, with nothing more known."[1]

"Baldwin (2006), does not identify parents for Herleve."[1]

Occupation: Mortician

Wikipedia -- "tanner, based on translations of Orderic's additions to the Gesta Normannorum Ducum...."[6] One later poetic source interpreted the occupation to be that of tailor, but in part due to flawed transcripts of the origina..." [7] .... literal reading ... Herleva's family had been undertakers or embalmers."[8]

Orderic ... added to the Gesta that Fulbert served as the Duke's chamberlain (cubicularii ducis)." [9]

Issue

Wikipedia -- "Fulbert of Falaise (fl. 11th century) ... father of Herleva ... Walter of Falaise named by Orderic Vitalis is likely a son."[6]

  • Herlève de Mortain, born Calvados, Normandy, 1003
  • (unproven) Walter de Falaise (Wikipedia citing Oderic Vitalis)

Tracking Notes

WORK IN PROGRESS: UNSOURCED Children on Wikitree:

  1. Osborne de Criton, born Falaise 1012 [citation needed]
  2. Beatrice de Venoix, born Falaise 1022, needs merging with Beatrice de Falaise, born Falaise 1022 [citation needed]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Cawley (2006), lists Fulbert de Falaise and Doda (Duwa) UNKNOWN, as the parents of Herlave (living 1049). Baldwin (2006), at The Henry Project, does not name a wife for Fulbert. Also note that both sites terminate Herlave's pedigree with Fulbert, with nothing more known.[4][5]
  2. Richardson, D. Royal Ancestry, V, p. 487
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 Van Houts, 1986
  4. also see Palgrave, 1831, p. 343.[6] ... The author notes the reports of Herlave's father - one as a courier from Falaise, and another as a duke's chamberlain.
  5. William had the body parts of his hecklers chopped off, (Van Houts, 1986)
  6. 6.0 6.1 Wikipedia: Fulbert of Falaise v. 22:58, 12 Nov 2016‎.[7]
  7. Wikipedia: Fulbert of Falaise v. 22:58, 12 Nov 2016. citing: Freeman (1870); Douglas, (1963); Bouard, (1984). [8]
  8. Wikipedia: Fulbert of Falaise v. 22:58, 12 Nov 2016, citing Van Houts, (1986).[9]
  9. Wikipedia: Fulbert of Falaise v. 22:58, 12 Nov 2016‎ citing Van Houts 1986, p. 403 and Crouch, 2002.[10]


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Fulbert De Falaise - Tanner
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On 22 Jan 2018 at 23:30 GMT Sally (Klosz) Fabro wrote:

Can someone please help? There are many online trees claiming Fulbert the Tanner (or dresser of the dead) married Doda, Scottish Princess, Dad Malcolm II. Pure fanciful thinking, correct? Also, I have no citations regarding Fulberts parents, or that he was a King. Last question, was he elevated after William was born? Titled? Castle?

And, although the Greys seem to be hanging about, I do not find them related. Thanks a bunch.

On 2 Jun 2017 at 07:31 GMT Bree Ogle wrote:

Split the data to separate 2014 bio from Jack's work in progress... and updated the citations to trace the data and the edits.

On 5 May 2017 at 07:38 GMT Colin Waterhouse wrote:

There is no reason to think that prior to his daughter's liason with Robert that Fulbert was anything but a tradesperson and it was onlY after William was born that he and his family were elevated to the aristocracy.

On 23 Apr 2017 at 20:44 GMT Sarah (Murtaugh) Heiney wrote:

De Falaise-136 and Falaise-8 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate

On 15 Jun 2016 at 18:06 GMT Bree Ogle wrote:

I want to remove the Greys ... but I need proof.

On 4 Oct 2015 at 16:41 GMT Andrew Lancaster wrote:

The parents and siblings clearly go beyond anything serious and should be removed?

On 30 Jun 2014 at 02:39 GMT Vic Watt wrote:

DeFalaise-2 and Falaise-8 appear to represent the same person because: Please merge. Thanks.

On 30 Jun 2014 at 02:38 GMT Vic Watt wrote:

Fred, I can find no support for Conan being father of Falaise, so I am removing Conan as father. I did find another Falaise that fits for a merge, so I'm proposing it.

On 6 Feb 2012 at 18:52 GMT Roger Travis Jr. wrote:

Hi; This profile should have white privacy. Please change it as soon as convenient, so we can carry out the expedited merges outlined here:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Historically-significant_ancestors



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