Note: No documentary evidence has been found linking Matthias Farnsworth, an early settler of Lynn, Massachusetts, to Richard and Elizabeth Farnsworth and to birth in Eccles, England in 1612, At this point, these relationships and facts are circumstantial.
Matthias Farnsworth 1612 - 1689
Birth: July 20 1612 Eccles, Lancashire, England [citation needed]
Occupation: Weaver and farmer
Parents:[citation needed] Richard F Farneworth 1584 - 1621 Elizabeth Marsh 1584 - 1623
Siblings:
x Alicia Farnsworth 1610 - 1611
Joseph Farnsworth 1612 - 1659
x Jonathan Farnsworth 1613 - 1614
x Mary Farnsworth, Child 1618 - 1623
x Hester Farnsworth 1621 - 1622
x Richard Farnworth 1620 -1620
Richard Farnworth 1625 - 1666
Family
Wife 1: Unknown, born about 1628, died about 1656. Marriage about 1646.
Children:
Ebeneezer 1646 - 1724 (unlikely, he is not mentioned in Matthia's last Will.)
Elizabeth, 1647-1729
Matthias, 1649-1693
John, 1651-1729
Wife 2: Mary Farr Farnsworth b. abt 1636 - 1717. Marriage about 1656 (before birth of Joseph). [1]
Child: Elizabeth Farnsworth. Apparent oldest child. Born about 1647 (aged 82 years at death). Married James Robinson on 16 January 1667. Died 22 December 1729.
Note: Matthias had a total of 3 wives, Mary Farr was his 2nd wife.[5]
Death and Will
Died: Between 15 January 1688/1689 and 21 January 1688/1689
Dates his last Will was made and date of burial.
Burial: January 21 1688/1689 at Old Burying Ground in Groton, Middlesex County, Massachusetts. [9]
Will: of Mathyas Farnworth sen of Groton
Made 15 January 1688/1689; proved ; Inventory taken
Summary
Aged about 77 years
Beloved wife
Son mathyas farnworth
Son John farnworth
Son bangeman farnworth
Son samewell farnworth
Son Jonathan Farnworth
Daughter Robinson
Daughter Thatcher
Daughter Stoon
Daughter Abigail farnworth
'Groton Jenewarey 15th: 1688-9 and in the 4 yere of the Rain of King James the second I mathyas farnworth sen of groton in the county of midlsix in new ingland aged about 77 yers being wall considrat and of sound and parfit Judgment and understanding thanks be to god for it I being sensabl of my many failtyes & unsartanty of my natueral lif and knowing what disaduantag many times happens for want of a Right sating the hous in order being desiras to ackt and satl things that consarns me doe make conshans and doe daclare this prasant instrement to be my last will & tastement in manar and form as foloweth making uoyd all formar wills ather by word or dead but first I Commit my soul to all myty god my Creater hoping I shal Rasaue full pardon of all my sins throw Jasus Christ and I commit my bodey to the earth from whans it was taken to be beured in such deasant manar as my exsecters shall see meet and first to the distrebiting my eastat
I doe giue to my beloued wif so long as she liues a widow won third of my whol astat and the moueabls within the hous I doe laue to hur to daspose as shee pleases and
sacondly I doe giue to my son mathyas farnsworth for his full porshun that fiue akker Right which his deed spasefyes and a peese of madow called by the name of half moon madow and twanty akekers of land lying neer a plase called by the name of Prascots old mill and this to be counted to be his full porshan unlass he meets with malistation by any ralations of his and if so then I will and giue to my son mathyas my hom stall that I now dwall upon with hous & barn and that hom stall that my son mathyas now liues on to Raturn in seed thare of and
thirdly I giue to my son John farnworth that fiue akar Right that his deed spasefyes and tan shilins more to be Payed of the astat for his full proshan
fourthly I giue to my son bangeman farnworth that part of my land lying on the out side of my hom stall fans at the lower end of the lot and twanty akekers at the plas neer prescotts old mill and six akkers of madow lying at south madow and this for his porshun
fiftly for my son samewall & Jonathan farnworth I doe giue the Rast of my land and madow that is undasposed on lying at the old mill for thare porshun
and I giue my daughter Robison won cow and to my daughter thacker I giue twenty shilins and to my daughter Stoon won cow and twanty shilins and to my daughter abigall farnworth twalue pound for her porshun and
as to the Rast of my eastat undasposed of I leaue in the hand of my exsectters to daspose of to my wif or children as thay think to be most Rason I mak Chois of my son mathyas farnworth with nathanil lawrins san & Jonas prescott for exsackters this taken from his own mouth syned and sealed in the prasants of us
matyas (M – his mark) farnsworth sen
nathannil lawrance
Jonas Prescott
Nicklas (S – his mark) huchins
also I giue my loam & tacklins for waring to my son mathyas farnworth
Xbr. 17. 1689 Charlestowne
Nathanll Larrance & Jonas Prescott appearing in Court and made oath yt they were prsent when Mathias ffarnworth Deced signed sealed and published this his last will & Testament, and yt he was of sound judgment and of disposeing minde when he did he same and yt they sett theire hands there to as witnesses wth Nicolas Hutchins
The following is quoted from Green, Samuel A. "Epitaphs from the Old Burying Ground in Groton, Massachusetts: with notes and an appendix" (Boston: Little, Brown, & Co., 1878), 238-240[10].
"Farnsworth. Matthias Farnsworth, the progenitor of the numerous families in Groton bearing his name, came from Lynn. He was an original proprietor of the town, and owned a twenty-acre right. His farm was situated on both sides of the road leading to Harvard, a little south of James's brook, more than a mile from the village. He was living at Lynn in the year 1657, and at Groton in 1664, though he may have been a resident of each place earlier than these respective dates. He died in the latter part of the year 1689, aged 77 years. The following is a copy of his will, on file in the Middlesex Probate Office at East Cambridge:--
His wife's name was Mary, and they had ten children. The list of them given below is compiled from different sources. It is probably that his “daughter Robison” was the wife of James Robertson, or Robinson; and in that case, her name was Elizabeth, and probably she was born in England. James Robertson, an original proprietor of the town, married his wife, 16 January 1667, and she died 22 December 1729, aged 82 years. I am not sure about the order of the births of his children, but I suggest the following: Elizabeth [?], who probably married James Robertson; Joseph, born 17 November 1657 at Lynn and died 20 February 1686-1687; Mary, born 11 October 1660 at Lynn and married 11 April 1676, Samuel Thacker, of Watertown; Matthias, born at Groton; John, who married, on 8 December 1686 to Hannah, daughter of John and Sarah (Eliot) Aldis, of Dedham, and had nine children; Benjamin, who married Mary, daughter of Jonas and Mary (Loker) Prescott, and had ten children; Samuel, who married on 12 December 1706 to widow Mary (Whitcomb) Willard, and had three children; Abigail, born 17 January 1671 and possibly married to John Hutchins of Groton; Sarah [?], who perhaps married Simon Stone; and Jonathan, born 1 June 1675 married Ruth –--, and had fourteen children."[11]
Occupation: Weaver and Farmer and Constable of Groton
Date: abt 1668
Place: Groton, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony
↑ "Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FCLD-QHH : 10 February 2018), Mathias Farnsworth in entry for Jonathan Farnsworth, 04 Mar 1675; citing GROTON,MIDDLESEX,MASSACHUSETTS, ; FHL microfilm 0873746 IT 4.
↑ 6.06.16.26.36.46.5Matthias Farnsworth in the Millennium File Heritage Consulting. Millennium File [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003. Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting.
↑ Green, Samuel A. "Epitaphs from the Old Burying Ground in Groton, Massachusetts: with notes and an appendix" (Boston: Little, Brown, & Co., 1878), 238-240.
For details on the life of Matthias Farnsworth:
"Matthias Farnsworth and His Descendants in America: A Monograph by Claudius Buchanan Farnsworth", Pawtucket, Rhode Island, 1891, pages 19-32.
Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/matthiasfarnswor00farn/page/n5/mode/2up
New England Marriages prior to 1700; page 259 (Mary Farr, 1657)
Manchester England Church of England Baptisms, Marriages & Burials 1541-1812; (bp 8/15/1815, Eccles St Marys, Lancashire)
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Hello all. I know I’m late to this conversation. I’ve not read over any of the data, but only the chats. I did notice in the comments the mentioning of proof, yet in science based studies your goal is to disprove. It’s easy to prove anything, which is why is science the goal is to disprove your thesis statement. Of which you do by gathering evidence to disprove your thesis statement. I used to drill this into my students at ECU. Anyway, I also noticed on several pages the “Connection Finder” is not in-sink with the disputed pages and the changes made on them. Since we all share the links I wonder if on the disputed pages if there could be alternative options or paths. Similar to the books I read when I was a kid. Had a different ending depending on which direction I took. I digress. But my idea is, at some point there may be enough evidence or people with DNA who lead the pall to the correct conclusion. But if we shut the doors we may not figure it out. The best thing about research is collaboration and collecting data and information.
At the top of the inventory page for the estate of Mathyas Farnworth is the statement that he died on the 21st of January 1688/89.
Matthias and Mary are *not* mentioned as being buried in the Old Burying Ground in the 1878 publication entitled "Epitaphs from the old burying ground in Groton."
In response to a query from me in April of 2023, Mr. Don Black [Old Burying Ground] wrote that . . . "The [Farnsworth] plaques were placed in the Old Burying Ground as part of Groton’s Tercentenary Celebration in 1955. . . . "
Hi pms, I've asked a question on the G2G about the parents of Matthias at https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1546175 . If you have any sources or other input, it would be great if you could contribute, to help determine if the two profiles for Matthias, son of Richard Farnworth and Elizabeth Marshe should be merged, or if this profile should be detached from the current parents. Thanks so much!
This page states that . . . "No documentary evidence has been found linking Matthias Farnsworth, an early settler of Lynn, Massachusetts, to Richard and Elizabeth Farnsworth and to birth in Eccles, England in 1612, At this point, these relationships and facts are circumstantial."
Is there a documented reason for adding those parents back to this page?
Thanks Shawn. I think what BeNotForgot is interested in is a contemporary source from Groton or method that proves Mathias of Groton is the same individual who was born in Eccles, England in 1612. One can reasonably expect that there could have been more than one person with a similar name who was born in England during a similar timeframe. Thanks for your understanding!
I'm not sure what the problem is. Farnsworth-126 and Farnsworth-2378 both have the same parents. It is well established that Farnsworth-126 resided in Lynn (see the Simon Stone genealogy, p. 60). If you accept the fact that Farnsworth-2378 was the son of Farnsworth-142 and Marshe-5, who were also the parents of Farnsworth-126, then why are you rejecting the merge?
Farnsworth-2378 and Farnsworth-126 do not represent the same person because: The other page states that No documentary evidence has been found linking Matthias Farnsworth, an early settler of Lynn, Massachusetts, to Richard and Elizabeth Farnsworth and to birth in Eccles, England in 1612, At this point, these relationships and facts are circumstantial.
Farnsworth-2378 and Farnsworth-126 appear to represent the same person because: Baptism record exists for Farnsworth-126 (England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975, database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBHC-PNL : 5 February 2023), Matthias Farnworth, 1615.)
Farnsworth-2378 and Farnsworth-126 do not represent the same person because: No documentary evidence has been found linking Matthias Farnsworth, an early settler of Lynn, Massachusetts, to the Mathias who was a son of Richard and Elizabeth Farnsworth, and who was baptized 20 Aug 1615 in Eccles, England.
Farnsworth-2378 and Farnsworth-126 are not ready to be merged because: See comments below - several folks believe there is enough circumstantial info to make this merge or at least that they are a match.
Farnsworth-2378 and Farnsworth-126 appear to represent the same person because: Same parents. Same baptism source for 20 Aug 1615 on both profiles. Thanks!
Farnsworth-2378 and Farnsworth-126 do not represent the same person because: There is no proof that they are the same person, i.e. . . . No documentary evidence has been found linking Matthias Farnsworth, an early settler of Lynn, Massachusetts, to Richard and Elizabeth Farnsworth and to birth in Eccles, England in 1612, At this point, these relationships and facts are circumstantial.
Farnsworth-2378 and Farnsworth-126 do not represent the same person because: No reliable sources have been found linking the Matthias Farnsworth, son of Richard and Elizabeth Farnsworth, to the Matthias Farnsworth, immigrant to Lynn, Massachusetts. The names and birth years are the same or appoximately the same, but that doesn't prove they represent the same person.
The solution here is simple: just remove from the profile of Farnsworth-126 the statement that no documentary evidence has been found linking Matthias Farnsworth, an early settler of Lynn, Massachusetts, to Richard and Elizabeth Farnsworth. Then complete the merge.
I believe BeNotForgot is suggesting there seems to be a lack of a contemporary source from Groton or a well-reasoned method that proves Mathias of Groton is the same individual who was born in Eccles, England in 1612. Without a well-researched connection, there’s always a risk that there may have been multiple contemporary persons with similar names and that the person from Eccles may have never immigrated to New England. The best practice is to somehow address these concerns with contemporary records, sound reasoning and reliable sources. In the end, we just want everyone to understand why this connection is sound.
I hope this viewpoint helps. All the best, Laurence.
How bad is the connection though? Richard Farnsworth and Elizabeth Marsh had a son Matthias baptized on 20 August 1615 in Eccles, Lancashire, England. I have no idea where the 20 July 1612 date comes from. It probably related to the will of Matthias stating he was "about 77 years old" on 15 January 1688/9. Obviously a 1615 birthdate is close but not quite right. This does not bother me much as it was not uncommon for people to be wrong about their own age. Normally a name-is-the-same and the dates are close is not a good enough argument to establish the English origins of an immigrant. However, this is a very unusual name; in fact, I could find no other examples of the name in any variant spelling on FamilySearch, Findmypast, or ancestry.com. Though certainly not proven, the identification is likely correct.
Richard Farneworthe was buried on 30 July 1640 at St Mary parish in Eccles, Lancashire, England. I was unable to find a will after a brief search, though I suspect it would be available in "Wills and other probate records proved in the Chester Diocesan Consistory Court, 1492-1857" at a Family History Center.
the probate records of the chester diocesan consistory court are now online. only two "Farnsworth" or anything similar appear in the index at the end (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6S57-TW8?i=845&cc=1589492&cat=1061472 - page here). "Elizabeth Farnsworth" of Audlem, widow, 1849. "Elizabeth Farnworth" of Dunham Massey, widow, 1853. however, i'm not sure how complete this index is because there are some other Farnsworth wills that don't appear in it.
I added a sourced Baptism record from the perish records from St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancastershire that shows Richard Farnworth was the father of Matthias, and was baptized on August 20, 1615.
Matthias and his unknown wife (whom I believe is Dorothy Robinson) are my 9th great-grandparents. I think that this Matthias is being confused with his great-grandson Matthias Farnsworth who was born on 20 Sep 1709 and married to Abigail Shed on 24 Feb 1730. He was the son of Ebenezer Farnsworth and Elizabeth Whitney and grandson of Matthias Farnsworth and Sarah Nutting.
I just came across Matthias' name in the 'Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, Vol. I' written by Mary Louise M. Hutton (found on Ancestry.com). The entry is as follows: "Farnsworth, Matthias (1612-89) Mass.; m. Dorothy Robinson; Mary Farr. Selectman; Constable.". There is no mention of a wife named Abigail. Is it possible that he was married in England to Abigail and she died before he immigrated to the Colonies? Seeing that Elizabeth, Matthias and John were all born in Lynn, MA and are listed in the biography above as being children of an unknown mother, is it possible that their mother was Dorothy Robinson and not Abigail?
most of this information is false.
I have a family tree dating back to 143 Bce
I was named after Matthias If you translate his name to english it will be "Matthew"
Followup to my last post: I don't know where the 20 July 1612 birth date came from, but I would suggest changing the birth date to "about 20 August 1615". As I said below, it nicely fills in the gap between his siblings born in 1613 and 1618.
The following source (England Births and Christenings) indicates that he was christened on 20 August 1615, Eccles, Lancashire, England (son of Richard "Farnworth"), thus filling the gap between Jonathan (b. 1613) and Mary (1618):
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At the top of the inventory page for the estate of Mathyas Farnworth is the statement that he died on the 21st of January 1688/89.
Matthias and Mary are *not* mentioned as being buried in the Old Burying Ground in the 1878 publication entitled "Epitaphs from the old burying ground in Groton."
In response to a query from me in April of 2023, Mr. Don Black [Old Burying Ground] wrote that . . . "The [Farnsworth] plaques were placed in the Old Burying Ground as part of Groton’s Tercentenary Celebration in 1955. . . . "
edited by V Pounders
Is there a documented reason for adding those parents back to this page?
edited by Laurence Mohr
I believe BeNotForgot is suggesting there seems to be a lack of a contemporary source from Groton or a well-reasoned method that proves Mathias of Groton is the same individual who was born in Eccles, England in 1612. Without a well-researched connection, there’s always a risk that there may have been multiple contemporary persons with similar names and that the person from Eccles may have never immigrated to New England. The best practice is to somehow address these concerns with contemporary records, sound reasoning and reliable sources. In the end, we just want everyone to understand why this connection is sound.
I hope this viewpoint helps. All the best, Laurence.
Richard Farneworthe was buried on 30 July 1640 at St Mary parish in Eccles, Lancashire, England. I was unable to find a will after a brief search, though I suspect it would be available in "Wills and other probate records proved in the Chester Diocesan Consistory Court, 1492-1857" at a Family History Center.
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edited by Celeste Lamoureux
most of this information is false. I have a family tree dating back to 143 Bce I was named after Matthias If you translate his name to english it will be "Matthew"
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBHC-PNL