Gottlieb Fischer (abt. 1735 - 1792)

Born about 1735 in Germany [uncertain]

Husband of Ursula (Hoffstodt) Fischer — married about 1760 (to 1792) in Pennsylvania Colony

Descendants

Died 1792 at about age 57 in Fishing Creek Valley, Fairview, York County, Pennsylvania, United States of America

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Biography

Gottlieb was born in about 1735. There are two versions of his origins: one that he was born in Germany and is the Gottlieb living in Lancaster County who in 1759 had an announcement in a Germantown paper noting that he had emigrated to America in 1750; and the other that he was born in Pennsylvania, the son of one of the earliest Fisher/Fischer immigrants since his name does not appear in any lists of German immigrants or ship registers. The birth in Germany seems more plausible given the mention of the Lancaster County Gottlieb being a miller, consistent with the combination of milling and farming of the Gottlieb who settled in York County. He married Ursula Hoffstodt before 1776, and more probably before 1767 when Gottlieb bought a farm in Newberry County in the Pennsylvania colony and he and his family reportedly settled there. They had seven children together. Gottlieb served in the American Revolution, serving as a private in the York County Militia from 1778 to 1782. He may not have served continuously over that period as he also reportedly supplied and transported food for the American troops. According to tax records, he built his farm up to 230 acres and also had a distillery. He passed away in 1792 and is buried with other family members on his farm in Fishing Creek Valley, PA.

Although most of Gottlieb's children were born between 1776 and 1790, several years after he reportedly settled with his family in Newberry County in 1767, their daughter Catharina appears to have been born earlier than the 1778 birthdate that is sometimes cited, since there is a record of her marriage that year.

Sources

Ancestry.com, accessed 5 Oct 2016. All Notes concerning the Fisher family of Fishing Creek Valley, Newberry and Fairview Townships, York County, Pennsylvania results for Gottlieb Fischer:

The Fisher Family: Among the many families which migrated from the Palatinate early in the eighteenth century was the Fisher family. It is not definitely known who were the parents of Gotlieb Fisher of Newberry township, York County, the one from whom the family traces its descent. However, the list of immigrants contained in Strassburger's "Pennsylvania German Pioneers" (1934) contains the names of quite a few Fishers who might have been related to Gotlieb. [Notes a number of Fishers who immigrated 1727-1737.] No where on the lists does the name Gotlieb Fisher appear. It may be concluded therefore that he was not the original immigrant but was perhaps the son of the Fisher who came first. ... The spelling of the name "Fisher" on the early records is "Fischer". However the form generally used for the past hundred years or more has been "Fisher". Gotlieb Fisher: Gotlieb Fisher was born about 1730-1740. He first appears up on official records in York County, Pa. where on May 3, 1767 he purchased from John Herr 142 3/4 acres of land in Newberry township, York County, Pa. for the sum of 272 pounds and 8 pence. ... full payment October 30, 1770. Gotlieb Fisher was a miller by occupation and conducted this business in connection with that of farming. It is family tradition that during the Revolutionary War Gotlieb Fisher was engaged in hauling food supplies for the use of the army. A search of Pennsylvania archives reveals his record of military service in the York County Militia during the Revolution. Gotlieb Fisher married Ursula Hoffstodt, a daughter of Peter Hoffstodt, Sr. The date of the marriage is uncertain. It is uncertain where the Hoffstodt family originally lived. However the family of a Peter Hoffstodt is found in Frederick Township, Philadelphia County, Pa. between 1779 and 1783. (Pa. Archives 3rd series, Vol. 14, pages 586, etc.) The only Hoffstodt name listed in "Pennsylvania German Pioneers" is that of Johann Peter Hoffstatt who came on the ship "Hero" which reached Philadelphia October 27, 1764. From 1767 to 1783 Gotlieb Fisher and his family lived on the tract of land in Fishing Creek Valley which even today is occupied by one of his descendants. On it either he or his son David erected a large stone house which is still occupied by Fisher descendants. Nover 12, 1783 Gotlieb purchased 233 acres of land from David Davis. Gotlieb died in 1792. The date of this wife's death is uncertain, but final settlement of the widow's dowry was made in 1835. They were buried on a small plot devoted to burial purposes a short distance from his dwelling. The children of Ursula Hoffstodt and Gotlieb Fisher were:

1. David Fischer, born 1776, m. Barbara Roop
2. Catherine Fischer, b. 1778 (?), m. Joseph Fetrow
3. Barbara, b. 1780, m. Peter Roop
4. Hester, b. 1783, m. Christopher Kerr
5. Christina, b. 1785, m. John Roop
6. Samuel, b. 1787, m. Barbara Sutton
7. Gotlieb Jr., b. 1790, m. Abigail Oren

Gotlieb served during the Revolutionary War as a Private in the 7th Class, Second (Captain John Rankin) Company, Second Battalion, York County, Pennsylvania Militia according to a return dated April 11, 1778, and one dated April 17, 1778 (Source: Blair, 133 Manuscript of the Historical Society of York County - H.J. Young "York County, Pennsylvania, the American Revolution; a Source Book" Black Series, pp. 202, 476). He probably remained a member of this unit when (in 1780) it became the Fifth (Captain Thomas Gould) Company, Third Battalion (Source: Pennsylvania Archives, 3rd Series, Vol. VII, p. 82). The 7th Class, in which Gotlieb Fisher served, rendered the following duties: (1) January 5, 1778 between the Schuylkill and the Delaware; (2) October 13, 1779 ordered to Trenton; (3) December 7, 1781 to February 7, 1782 at Camp Security in York County guarding prisoners of war (Source: Historical Society of York County, mentioned in Blair's manuscript, #1). Those serving in the class and company above mentioned received "pay due for service in militia." (Source: Pennsylvania Archives, 3rd Series, Vol. VII, pp. 69-71). The published records of the men serving from York County, Pennsylvania, during the Revolution are inadequate and incomplete. Much of the above data has been supplied by the Historical Society of York County, York, Pennsylvania, from original manuscripts in its possession. The name Gotlieb is spelled on the records in a number of different ways, namely as "Gadlove" and "Gotlip." The last name is sometimes spelled "Fischer." David Fisher laid off a grave-yard at the lower end of his farm along the highway, in it are three generations buried, Gotlieb Fisher and his wife Ursula, David Fisher and his wife Barbara, who survived him until 1848, Jacob Fisher and his wife Mary who lived on this homestead farm.

Ancestry.com. Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Mennonite Vital Records, 1750-2014 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Accessed 6 Oct 2016. Original data: Genealogical Card File. Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Name: Gotlieb Fisher; Relationship: Head; Birth Date: 1735; Death Date: 1792; Household Members (Name Relationship): Gotlieb Fisher: Head; c. 1735-1792; Christina Fisher: Child;1785, m. John Roop; Ursula Hoffstadt: Spouse; Father: Peter; Samuel Fisher: Child; 1787, m. Barbara Sutton; Peter Hoffstadt: Father-in-law; Gotlieb Fisher Jr.: Child; 1790, m. Abigail Green; David Fisher: Child; 1776- 14 Dec 1826; m. Barbara Roop (1778-4 Nov 1849, dau Jacob III); Catherine Fisher: Child; 1778; m. Joseph Fetrow Barbara Fisher: Child; 1780; m. Peter Roop Hester Fisher: Child; 1783; m. Christopher Kerr; Ref: Egle Notes & Queries, Vol. 1, 3rd Series

Ancestry.com. U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Original data: Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.

• Record 1:

Name: Gottleib Fischer;

Birth Date: c. 1750;

Birth Place: Lena [reads as "Ger?" on scan of original];

Death Date: 1792;

Death Place: Pennsylvania;

Military service: Private in York County, Pennsylvania Militia, 7th Class, 2nd Co., 2nd Battalion, Capt. John Rankin;

SAR Membership: 92979;

Role: Ancestor;

Application Date: 19 Jun 1965;

Spouse: Ursula Hoffstott [Hoffstodt];

Married: c. 1775

Children: David Fischer

References: Powell's History of York Co., Vol. 2, pp. 502-504; Blair 133 Manuscript of The Historical Society of York Co., H.J. Young; "York Co., Pa. in the Revolution," a source Book 2 Black Series, pp. 202, 505; Penna. Archives 3rd Ser., Vol. 7, pp. 69-71; 82; Vol. 21, pp. 29, 197, 502

• Record 2:

Name: Gottleib Fischer;

Death Date: 1792;

Death Place: New Berry, York, Pennsylvania;

SAR Membership: 65089;

Role: Ancestor;

Application Date: 20 Jun 1945;

Spouse: Ursula Hoffstadt;

Children: Christina Fischer

Military service: Private in Capt John Rankin 7th Class, 2nd Battalion, York County Militia, return dated April 17, 1778. this class rendered service Jan. 5, 1778 between the Schuylkill and the Delaware; Oct. 13, 1779 ordered to Trenton. Dec. 7 1781- Feb 7, 1782 at Camp Security, York Co., guarding prisoners of war.

Additional references: Penna. Archives 3rd Ser., Vol. 21, pp. 99, 197, 769; 133 Mss of the Historical Society of York Co. (Blair);

• Record 3:

Name: Gottleib Fischer;

Death Date: 1792;

SAR Membership: 68329;

Role: Ancestor;

Application Date: 14 Feb 1947;

Spouse: Ursula Hoffstott;

Children: David Fischer

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Immigration

Ancestry.com. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012. Name: Gottlieb Fischer; Arrival Year: 1750; Arrival Place: America; Source Publication Code: 3211.7; Primary Immigrant: Fischer, Gottlieb; Annotation: From a transcript at the Germantown Historical Society. Information abstracted from five principal German newspapers published in Germantown and Philadelphia, 1743-1800: Pennsylvanische Geschicht-Schreiber (later Pennsylvanische Berichte), Staatsbote, Phi; Source Bibliography: HOCKER, EDWARD W. Genealogical Data Relating to the German Settlers of Pennsylvania and Adjacent Territory. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1981. 242p. Reprinted, 1989. Page: 78: "May 25, 1759: Gottlieb Fischer, care of Johannes Herr's mill, Lampeter Township, Lancaster County, six miles from Lancaster, who arrived in America nine years ago, seeks his brother, Matthew."

Residence in Pennsylvania

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Land Warrants and Applications, 1733-1952 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Original data: Warrant Applications, 1733-1952. Harrisburg, PA: Pennsylvania State Archives. Land Warrants. Pennsylvania State Archives, Harrisburg, PA. Name: Godleib Fisher; Warrant Date: 16 Aug 1769; Warrant Place: York Area: 200 acres Other: Michael Bard

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4; Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762-1794; Microfilm Roll: 342 Name: Godlieb Fisher; Year: 1780; Town or Ward: Newberry; County: York; Land: 100, horses: 3, cows: 4, distillieries: 1; value: 100 pounds; Archive Rollname: 342

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4; Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762-1794; Microfilm Roll: 343. Name: Godlob Fisher; Year: 1781; Town or Ward: Newbury; County: York; Archive Rollname: 343; Land: 139, value: 60; Horses: 2, value: 20; Cows: 4, value: 10; Mills: 2, value: 487; Total value: 577; Tax: $9.12 4m; Other Fetrow taxpayers: Michael Fedrow, John Fedrow, Philip Fedrwo Senr; Philip Fedrow; Jun.; Joseph Fedrow, Hoff: Peter Hoof, Adam Hoof, Daniel Hoof, Daniel Hoof Nony?

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Accessed 3 Oct 2016. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4; Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762-1794; Microfilm Roll: 343; Name: Joseph Fetrow; Year: 1782; Town or Ward: Newberry; County: York; Archive Rollname: 343; Land: 60; Horses: 1; Cows: 1; Sheep: 1; Value: 74.76; Tax: 1.3.6; Other Fetrow taxpayers: Michael Fetrow Jn/Sn?, John Fetrow Jn/Sn?; Philip Fetrow; Gottlop Fisher; Hoff: Daniel Hoff; Adam Hoff; Peter Hoff

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4; Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762-1794; Microfilm Roll: 343. Name: Gadlove Fisher; Year: 1783; Town or Ward: Newbury; County: York; Archive Rollname: 343; Houses: 1; Outhouses; 1; Barns: 1; Lands: 139; Inhabitants: 8; Negroes: 0; Servants: 0; Mills: 0 Other Fetrow households: Joseph Fettro; Philip Jun; Michl Snd?; Hoff: Adam Hoff; Peter Hoff; Daniel Hoff

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4; Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762-1794; Microfilm Roll: 343. Name: Gottlieb Fisher; Year: 1785; Town or Ward: Newbury; County: York; Archive Rollname: 343; Land: 230; Servants: 0; Negroes: 0; Horses: 2; Cows: 4; Value: 375 pounds; tax: 1 pound, 16 shillings 5 p. Other Fedrow taxpayers on page: Philip Feddero, John Feddero; Philip Jun. Feddero, Michael Feddero; Joseph, Adam Jun. Hoff, Daniel Hoff, Adam Hoff, Peter Hoff

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4; Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762-1794; Microfilm Roll: 343. Name: Gotleip Fisher; Year: 1786; Town or Ward: Newbury; County: York; Archive Rollname: 343; Land: 230; Horses: 2; Cows: 3; Value: 531; tax: 2 pounds, 4 shillings 3 p.; Other Fedrow taxpayers: Philip Fetro, Michael Fetro, John Fetro, Philip Jun. Fetro; Joseph Fetro, Adam Jun. Hoff, Daniel Hoff, Adam Hoff, Peter Hoff

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Septennial Census, 1779-1863 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Septennial Census Returns, 1779–1863. Box 1026, microfilm, 14 rolls. Records of the House of Representatives. Records of the General Assembly, Record Group 7. Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, Harrisburg, PA. Name: Gottlieb Fischer; Residence Year: 1786; Residence Place: Newbury, York, Pennsylvania, USA; Other Fetrow taxpayers on page: Philip Fettero; Philip Fettero Jun.; John Fettero; Michael Fettero; Joseph Fettero; Hoff: Adam Hoff; Adam Hoff Jun; Daniel Hoff; Peter Hoff

Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762–1794. Series No. 4.61; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Accessed 3 Oct 2016. Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Godlieb Fisher; Year: 1787; Town or Ward: Newbury; County: York; Archive Rollname: 343; Land: 200; horses: 2; cows: 2; Value: 370; Tax: 1.15.0; Other Fetrow households: John, Michael, Philip, Joseph Fetrow, Widow Emrick; Hoff: Peter, Adam, Daniel, Adam Junr

Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission; Records of the Office of the Comptroller General, RG-4; Tax & Exoneration Lists, 1762-1794; Microfilm Roll: 344 Name: Gottlieb Fisher; Year: 1789; Town or Ward: Newbury; County: York; Archive Rollname: 344; Land: 200; horses: 3; cows: 4; Value: 240; Tax: 2.0.0;

Ancestry.com. 1790 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch. Accessed 5 Oct 2016. Name: Gotlip Fisher [Gotlip Ferzer]; Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Newberry, York, Pennsylvania; Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 1; Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 1; Free White Persons - Females: 3; Number of Household Members: 5; Other Fedrow households on page: Christian Fedro, Jno. Fedrwow, Andw. Fedro, Phillip Fedro, Joseph Fedro, Michael Fedro; Addam Hoff x 2, Peter Hoff, Daniel Huff

Death

FindaGrave Memorial #123753121, accessed 5 Oct 2016. Name: Gotlieb Fischer; Birth: 1740; Death: 1792; Note: His year of birth is about 1740, he was of German parentage, see Prowell's History of York County, Vol.II page 502; Gotlieb & Ursela had seven children: 1. David married Barbara Roop 2. Catherine married Joseph Fetrow 3. Barbara married Peter Roop 4. Hester married Christopher Kerr 5. Christina married John Roop 6. Samuel married Barbara Sutton 7. Gotlieb Jr. married Abigail Oren From "Newberry Township - The Beginning 1700-1900", p. 231, published 1988 by Newberry Township Heritage Committee (printed by Carter Square Press, Inc., 921 Gettysburg Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania 17055) Salt Lake Library 974.841 H2n. "Samuel Prowell died at an advanced age. The next farm is that first purchased by Gotlieb Fischer in 1783. It, like the Prowell farm, is one of the oldest laid out tracts in the Valley, dating back to 1735. Gotlieb Fischer found or built a log house, traces of which are still visible today. This farm descended to his son David Fischer in 1796 and later to his grandson Jacob about 1827 and to his son Jeremiah in 1877. Viewed from the gate of the quarry farm entrance aforesaid, the house and buildings appeared as though set in the midst of an enchanting garden, in fact a veritable poet's dream. Jacob Fisher was very proud of this farm and was exceedingly anxious it should remain in the Fisher name. The land was then in a high state of cultivation and Jacob Fisher maintained it so during his lifetime . . . Gotlieb Fisher first appears upon official records in York County, Pennsylvania, where, on May 3, 1767, he purchased from John Herr 142 3/4 acres of land in Newberry Township for the sum of 272 pounds and 8 pence. The mortgage deed in the transaction was cancelled by full payment o the amount due October 30, 1770. Gotlieb was a miller by occupation and conducted this business in connection with that of farming. It is family tradition that during the Revolutionary War Gotlieb Fisher was engaged in hauling food supplies for the use of the army. A search of Pennsylvania Archives reveals his record of military service in the York County militia during the Revolution. Gotlieb served during the Revolutionary War as a Private in the 7th Class, Second (Captain John Rankin) Company, Second Battalion, York County, Pennsylvania Militia according to a return dated April 11, 1778, and one dated April 17, 1778 (Source: Blair, 133 Manuscript of the Historical Society of York County - H.J. Young "York County, Pennsylvania, the American Revolution; a Source Book" Black Series, pp. 202, 476). He probably remained a member of this unit when (in 1780) it became the Fifth (Captain Thomas Gould) Company, Third Battalion (Source: Pennsylvania Archives, 3rd Series, Vol. VII, p. 82). The 7th Class, in which Gotlieb Fisher served, rendered the following duties: (1) January 5, 1778 between the Schuylkill and the Delaware; (2) October 13, 1779 ordered to Trenton; (3) December 7, 1781 to February 7, 1782 at Camp Security in York County guarding prisoners of war (Source: Historical Society of York County, mentioned in Blair's manuscript, #1). Those serving in the class and company above mentioned received "pay due for service in militia." (Source: Pennsylvania Archives, 3rd Series, Vol. VII, pp. 69-71). The published records of the men serving from York County, Pennsylvania, during the Revolution are inadequate and incomplete. Much of the above data has been supplied by the Historical Society of York County, York, Pennsylvania, from original manuscripts in its possession. The name Gotlieb is spelled on the records in a number of different ways, namely as "Gadlove" and "Gotlip." The last name is sometimes spelled "Fischer." From 1767 to 1783 Gotlieb Fisher and his family lived on the tract of land in Fishing Creek Valley which even today (1966) is occupied by one of his descendants. On it either he or his son, David, erected a large stone house which is still occupied by Fisher descendants. On November 12, 1783 Gotlieb purchased 233 acres of land from David Davis. (Courtesy Sally Hursh); Family links: Spouse: Ursela Hoffstode Fischer (1738 - 1832); Children: David Fisher (1776 - 1826); Burial: Fisher Cemetery, York County, Pennsylvania, USA