no image
Privacy Level: Open (White)

Symon Fiske (abt. 1397 - 1464)

Symon Fiske aka Ffyske
Born about in Laxfield, Suffolk, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and [uncertain]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1424 [location unknown]
Husband of — married 1433 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died in Laxfield, Suffolk, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 6 Jan 2010
This page has been accessed 8,785 times.

Contents

Disputed Mother

There is no known evidence for the internet claim that Simon Fiske was the son of Katherine Burgess. Please do not add a mother for Simon unless you have documentary evidence.

Biography

Simon Fisfe[1], in his will, styled himself "Simon Fysk of Laxfeld" and said he was a parishioner of Laxfeld church,[2] in co Suffolk, England.

Simon Fiske, of Laxfield, co. Suffolk, 1428, 1445, wheelwright, was born probably about 1400.

Simon, the grandson of Daniel, was Lord of the Manor of Stadhaugh, Parish of Laxfield, County of Suffolk, England, live in the reigns of Henry IV. and VI. (1399-1422),

Son Simon was of Diss, Norfolk Eng.

Symond's father was Hugh Fiske b about 1378 of StadHough, Suffolk, and Hugh's father was Daniel Fiske b. about 1360 in Laxfield

Simon Fiske was probably a grandson of Hugh Fiske or Fisqs, who appears as a landholder at Laxfield about the middle of the fourteenth century and in his turn was probably a descendant of Daniel Fiske of Laxfield, 1208... The name of the wife of Hugh Fiske has not been discovered, nor the Christian name of his son, who is supposed to have been of Laxfield about 1390 and to have been the father of the Simon Fiske with whom this pedigree begins. William Fiske, the Elder, of Laxfield, the testator of 6 Mar. 1462/3 (Will No. 1), who died between that date and 21 Apr. 1463, when his will was proved by Joan, his widow, and by John Smyth, was probably a brother of Simon Fiske; and --- Fiske, who married John Noleth of Laxfield and was probably the mother of Nicholas Noleth of Laxfield (one of the residuary legatees and executors of the will of William Fiske, who renounced his executorship, was probably a sister of Simon and William Fiske.'[3]

Marriages and Children

Simon married a first unknown wife according to the latest research published in 2016 in NEHGR.[4] There is no evidence she was Susannah Smyth.

Simon was the father of:

  1. William, who was living on 22 December 1463,[2] married Joan Lynne.
  2. Geoffrey, who was living on 22 December 1463,[2] married Margaret --.
  3. John the elder, who was living on 22 December 1463,[2]
  4. Margaret, who was living and married to — Devsing and on 22 December 1463,[2] Dowsing or Dowling.[5]
  5. Edmund, who was living on 22 December 1463,[2] m. Margery --.


Simon was married to Katherine —, who survived him to execute his will on 26 February 1463/4, and they were the parents of:[2][4]

  1. a daughter, who was living on 22 December 1463,[2][4]
  2. a daughter, who was living on 22 December 1463,[2][4]
  3. a daughter, who was living on 22 December 1463,[2][4]
  4. John Fiske the younger son, who was one of the executors of his father's will on 26 February 1463/4, and after his mother's death was to have the property she held in Laxfield, and give the executors of his father's will £30;

Property

Simon owned lands in Laxfeld and Eston Bavent [Easton-Bavent], co Suffolk.[2]

Occupation

Yeoman

Will

Simon made his will on 22 December 1463, in which he asks to be buried in Laxfeld church, and mentions:[2]

  • his wife Katherine, who was one of his residuary legatees and executors of the will and was left lands in Laxfeld for her life, with remainder to his younger son John, except 2 acres called Semams which was hers absolutely;
  • his three unmarried daughters, to whom he left "£10 within a year of marriage; but, if any of them remain single, she shall enjoy her portion";
  • his sons, William, Geoffrey, John the elder and Edmund, and his daughter, Margaret Devsing, who were to receive 40s, and the penalty for any of the sons bringing an action against his executors for lands in Laxfeld and Eston Bavent [Easton-Bavent, co. Suffolk], was the loss of his 40s.
  • his younger son John, another executor and residuary legatee, who if he was disturbed was to compensate himself from his father's lands in Eston Bavent, and after his mother's decease was to give the executors £30;
  • John Noloth, and Nicholas Noloth, also executors and residuary legatees;

Simon's will proved at Laxfeld on 26 February 1463/4 by his widow, Katherine and John Fysk, the younger son.[2]

Burial

Burial:
Place: Norwich, England

Research Notes

G Andrews Moriaty says in the article on the Fiske Family, "Genealogical Research in England", in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, volume 86, that Frederick Clifton Pierce's book, Fiske and Fisk Family, published in Chicago in 1896, is of little value for information about the Fiske family in England because it contains numerous errors, omissions of important details, and erroneous conclusions.[6] Moriarty also says that Henry Ffiske's The Fiske Family Papers published in Norwich in 1902, contains pedigrees that are "often erroneous and misleading".[6]

The Fiske family were not barons nor peers therefore they had no right to the title lord which "their American descendant had foisted upon them."[6]

Sources

  1. Hyde, Myrtle Stevens, "A Re-Examination of the Fiske Family of Suffolk, England, Ancestral of Some Early New England Families", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol. 170, p. 225
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 G Andrews Moriarty, Contributor, Communications by Committee on English and Foreign Research The Fiske Family, "Genealogical Research in England", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-), 86, October 1932, 427-30. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2013.) Subscription required : accessed 24 July 2016). Archdeaconry of Suffolk, Ipswich Probate Registry, book 2, folio 117.
  3. Source: #S54 Page: 7 G. Andrews Moriarty; 1933; p.367-368
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 Myrtle Stevens Hyde, A Re-Examination of the Fiske Families of Suffolk, England, Ancestral to Some Early New England Families (Boston, MA: NEHGS, 2016) 170:255+
  5. Fiske and Fisk family : being the record of the descendants of Symond Fiske, lord of the manor of Stadhaugh, Suffolk County, England, from the time of Henry IV to date, including all the American members of the family (1896), 36, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/stream/cu31924029841024#page/n49/mode/2up : accessed 24 July 2016).
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 G Andrews Moriarty, Contributor, Communications by Committee on English and Foreign Research The Fiske Family, "Genealogical Research in England", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-), 86, October 1932, 406-7. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2013.) Subscription required : accessed 24 July 2016).

references "New. Eng. Hist. &. Gen. Register vol. 87 "Magna Carta" wurtss pp 1403 1404 "Snow-Estes Ancestry" 1939. "Fiske Genealogy" Pierce p. 36

  • Source: S457 Title: Fiske and Fiske Family - Being the record of the descendants of Symond Fiske, lord of the manor of Stadhaugh, Suffolk County, England, from the time of Henry IV to date, including all the American members of the family Abbreviation: Fiske & Fiske Family Author: Pierce, Frederick Clifton Publication: self published, Chicago, IL, 1896 Repository: #R9
  • Repository: R9 Name: Library of Michigan Address: City: Lansing State: MI
  • Source: S515 Title: Fiske Family Papers, Series: Private Abbreviation: Fiske Family Papers Author: Ffisk, Henry Publication: Fletcher and Son, Ltd., Castle Works, Norwich, 1902 Repository: #R18 Call Number: 929.2 F54501F
  • Repository: R18 Name: Allen County Public Library Address: City: Ft Wayne State: IN
  • Source: S54 Title: New England Historical and Genealogical Register Abbreviation: NEHGR Publication: Boston, MA
  • Source: S457 Title: Fiske and Fiske Family - Being the record of the descendants of Symond Fiske, lord of the manor of Stadhaugh, Suffolk County, England, from the time of Henry IV to date, including all the American members of the family Abbreviation: Fiske & Fiske Family Author: Pierce, Frederick Clifton Publication: self published, Chicago, IL, 1896 Repository: #R9

Repository: R9 Name: Library of Michigan Address: City: Lansing State: MI

  • Ancestral File Number: H33M-W9


More Genealogy Tools



Sponsored Search




Is Symon your ancestor? Please don't go away!
 star icon Login to collaborate or comment, or
 star icon contact private message private message a profile manager, or
 star icon ask our community of genealogists a question.
Sponsored Search by Ancestry.com

DNA
No known carriers of Symon's DNA have taken a DNA test.

Have you taken a DNA test? If so, login to add it. If not, see our friends at Ancestry DNA.

Sponsored by Ancestry ®

Family History Search.

Simplified.

Enter a grandparent's name. Just one grandparent can lead you to many discoveries.

Comments: 3

Leave a message for others who see this profile.
There are no comments yet.
Login to post a comment.
Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, Abergavenny.

The Fiske - Harrison Family Alan G Freer, A.C.I.B. Member of the Society of Genealogists, London. Burke's Peerage gives Symond's first marriage to Susannah Smyth about 1424. She died 1433, and he wed his 2nd wife, Katherine Crispe. Symond died 1464, his Will, dated 22 December 1463, proven 26 February 1464. Also details their issue, and several subsequent generations. The name 'Lord of the Manor' is to indicate ownership, nothing more. Copinger's omission disproves nothing.

posted by Tim Perry
Copinger says nothing about any Simon Fiske being lord of the manor of Stadhaugh or any other manor in Laxfield.
posted by [Living Horace]
Symond ( Simon ) was not a Lord, the Title 'Lord of Stanhaugh' was simply to indicate ownership. He also owned land at Easton Bavants, ( Grant 1428 ).
posted by Tim Perry

F  >  Fiske  >  Symon Fiske