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John FitzAlan KB (1385 - 1421)

John "13th Earl of Arundel" FitzAlan KB
Born in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Brother of
Husband of — married about 1405 in Englandmap [uncertain]
Husband of — married before 1407 (to 21 Apr 1421) [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died in Arundel Castle, Sussexmap
Profile last modified | Created 30 Mar 2015
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John FitzAlan KB was born in England.

Biography

John FitzAlan KB was a member of aristocracy in England.

John FitzAlan, 13th Earl of Arundel (1385-1421) was an English nobleman. He became Baron Arundel on his father's death in 1390 and Baron Maltravers on his grandmother's death in 1405. In 1415 his cousin Thomas FitzAlan, 12th Earl of Arundel died, leaving FitzAlan as his closest male heir. The Earldom of Arundel had been entailed to heirs male, and so the next year FitzAlan was summoned to parliament as Earl of Arundel.

However the inheritance was challenged by Thomas Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk, who was married to the late Earl's eldest sister. The dispute was not settled during their lifetimes, and John was subsequently summoned to Parliament as Baron Maltravers, not Earl of Arundel.

Family

Parents: John FitzAlan, 2nd Baron Arundel, and Elizabeth le Despenser[1]
born August 1, 1385 at Ditton (in Stoke Poges), Buckinghamshire[1]
Wife: Eleanor, daughter of Sir John Berkeley by his second wife Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of John de Betteshorne, Knt.[1]
married before 1407[1][2]
Children
by Eleanor Berkeley[1]
  • (son and h.) John FitzAlan (b 1408), K.G., K.B., 14th Earl of Arundel, m (1) Constance Cornwall, (2) Maud Lovell[1]
  • William FitzAlan (b 1417), K.G., 16th Earl of Arundel m Joan Neville (daughter of Sir Richard Neville, 5th Earl of Salisbury, by Alice Montagu)[1]
by an unknown mistress[1]
  • John Arundel, K.B.[1]

Sources

  • Royal Ancestry by D. Richardson Vol. I. page 152
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 Source: Plantagenet Ancestry (#Richardson)
  2. He had previously been contracted to marry (before 10 October 1405) Elizabeth Talbot, daughter of Sir Richard Talbot. (#Richardson). That marriage was apparently never consummated.


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Source: Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume IV, page 424-5 POYNINGS 17.

Richard Poynings, married (1st) Joan Seamer. They had no issue. He married (2nd) before Easter term 1425 Eleanor Berkeley, widow of John Arundel, and daughter of John Berkeley, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth, daughter of John de Betteshorne (or Bistorne). They had two sons and one daughter, Eleanor. Sir Richard Poynings was slain near Orleans, France 10 June 1429. His widow, Eleanor, married (3rd) Walter Hungerford.

Thank you!

Following discussions on the G2G: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/20960/who-were-parents-sir-john-alleyne-born-buckinghamshire-1410 and https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/577917/did-john-alleyn-allen-of-outwell-norfolk-exist- I am proposing that both John Alleyn and John Allen be removed as children of John FitzAlan. If you want to discuss please contact me in the next couple of days. Thanks.
posted by Gillian Thomas
Hi Kathy, I just wanted to let you know that I am attempting to sort out the Allen and Alleyn lines currently attached to FitzAlan-625. I'll keep you informed about my progress / solutions. If you have any thoughts, I'd be happy to discuss. Thanks Gillian
posted by Gillian Thomas
John Fitzalan was not John Arundel, and he wasn't Married to Margaret Burgersh.

I broke the merge that had been done in February, and broke them apart again with their respective wives.

This was combined with this profile;

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Arundell-83


They are two different profiles for 2 different people

One family was FitzAlan, and the Other was Arundel

And actually if you wanted to eliminate all confusion between the location Arundel and the Family; Spell the name correctly it's Arundell not Arundel. It has 2 l's in it.

John is 23 degrees from Mary McCauley, 26 degrees from B. W. J. Molier and 6 degrees from Henry VIII of England on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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