Illustrious Men John FitzHugh was one of 16 Illustrious Men, counselors to King John, who were listed in the preamble to Magna Carta. Join: Magna Carta Project Discuss: magna_carta
Apart from the fact that he is described in official records as a son of Hugh (see for example the Pipe Rolls for the 10th year of King John's reign[1] and the Preamble to the Magna Carta[2]), there appears to be no information about John's family origins.
Royal Official
John served King John as a senior official.[3] He appears acting on royal business in the Pipe Rolls in the 10th year of King John - "ad parandas domos" (ie instructed to prepare buildings).[1] He is shown rendering accounts for large sums of money: for example, for scutage in 13 John,[4] for some episcopal sees during the papal interdict (Salisbury in 1209-1212[5] and Canterbury in 1212/13),[6] and for some church tithes in 1211.[7] He is mentioned quite often in the Patent Rolls of the reign of King John, mainly in relation to fairly routine business, including such things as taking care of a prisoner in 1212, to financial matters, and as a witness, and in relation to his role as Sheriff of Surrey.[8] In 1212 he was recorded as making payments to the keeper of lions in the royal menagerie established at the Tower of London by King John.[9]
John's responsibilities also included taking possession of manors for the king, and overseeing repairs of castles (he did both, for instance, at Odiham, Hampshire in 1207, where he was warden of the castle during the rebuilding work).[10]
John was Sheriff of Surrey from 1207 to 1213.[11][12] In 1213 he was sent as an envoy to Flanders.[11]
In 1214 John is recorded in the Pipe Rolls as purchasing a substantial quantity of weaponry for the king.[13]
Lands
John was granted Kirtlington, Oxfordshire[3] in 1204,[14][15] where he also bought a mill which his son-in-law Adam FitzHervey sold to Gilbert Basset.[14]
Robert de Berners granted John the fee of Ormesby, Norfolk. John's daughter Julian and son-in-law Adam FitzHervey held it in the time of Henry III.[16]
Magna Carta and Rebellion
On 9 May 1215 John FitzHugh was one of the witnesses to a charter of King John, issued at London, confirming in general terms liberties of barons who were faithful to him.[17] On 27 May 1215, John and others were ordered to observe the terms of any truce between King John and the Barons.[18][19]
John was one of the Illustrious Men, King John's counsellors listed in the preamble to the Magna Carta.[2]
In November 1215 John was ordered to transfer part of the fee of Kirtlington, Oxfordshire to Ralph de Montibus.[14] Near the end of 1215 John was given custody of a prisoner called John de Lucton.[20]
In 1216 John abandoned his support of King John[11][14] and his remaining interest in Kirtlington was confiscated.[14] He returned to royal allegiance after the second Battle of Lincoln in 1217, early in the reign of Henry III.[11]
Marriage
John married Gunnora de Bendinges.[21] They had a daughter:
John died on crusade[21] in 1220. After his death, doubts were raised about the validity of his marriage to Gunnora, and this led to questions about her right to her dower.[21][23]
↑ 2.02.1 Frederick Lewis Weis. The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, 5th edition, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1999, p. xi
↑ 3.03.1 Tony K Moore. The Loss of Normandy and the Invention of Terre Normannorum, 1204, pre-publication PDF of article in English Historical review, 2010, p. 26, web, accessed 17 May 2020
↑ C R Cheney. King John's Reaction to the Interdict on England, in 'Transactions of the Royal Historical Society', Vol. 31, 1949, p. 141, JSTOR (free registration required)
↑ 'Parishes: Odiham', in A History of the County of Hampshire (Victoria County History), Volume 4, ed. William Page (London, 1911), pp. 87-98, British History Online, accessed 19 May 2020
↑ 11.011.111.211.3Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Advisers of King John', online, 2015 (subscription required)
↑ David S Bachrach. Administration and Organization of War in Thirteenth-Century England, Routledge, 2020, snippets with unnumbered pages on Google Books
↑ 14.014.114.214.314.414.5 'Parishes: Kirtlington', in A History of the County of Oxford (Victoria County History), Volume 6, ed. Mary D Lobel (London, 1959), pp. 219-232, British History Online, accessed 30 May 2016
↑ 16.016.1 Francis Blomefield, 'East Flegg Hundred: Ormesby', in An Essay Towards A Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 11 (London, 1810), pp. 231-240, British History Online, accessed 17 May 2020
↑ G Eyre and A Spottiswoode. Rotuli chartarum in Turri Londinensi asservati, Vol. I, Part I, Public records Office, 1837, p. 207, Google Books
↑ N Vincent. 'King John's Diary & Itinerary', 24 May 1215-30 May 1215, "John negotiates with the Pope and archbishop Langton", The Magna Carta Project website (no connection with the WikiTree Project), accessed 17 May 2020
↑ N Vincent, 'King John's Diary & Itinerary', Dec 1215-Jan 1216, "John spends Christmas at Nottingham", The Magna Carta Project website, accessed 17 May 2020
↑ 21.021.121.2 Christopher Tyneman. "England and the Crusades, 1095-1588", University of Chicago Press, 1996, p. 209, Google Books
↑ Lord Arthur Hervey. Ickworth and the Family of Hervey, in 'Proceedings of the Suffolk Institute of Archaeology', Vol. II, 1848, Appendix II, p. 413, Google Books
↑ Jennifer Ward. Women in England in the Middle Ages, A & C Black, 2006, p. 65, Google Books
I plan soon to do some work on this profile as part of what I am doing for the Magna Carta project on the Illustrious Men, King John's counsellors at the time of the Magna Carta.
Michael it just struck me that this website might be very helpful for John, because he appeared a lot in the patent rolls: http://neolography.com/timelines/JohnItinerary.html John fitz Hugh can be seen in the index nominum. Problem is that the edition of the Patent Rolls they have on that site is Latin. Johannes filius Hugonis also has an index entry in the Charter Rolls, which again I have only found in Latin after a quick look: https://books.google.be/books?id=-9UsAQAAMAAJ
Thanks, Andrew. That is helpful. I hope my Latin will be up to looking at these properly. I have other further sources to explore too. This profile is currently very much at an interim stage.
Andrew, I have now finished what I think I can do on this profile unless some other sources turn up. Please improve on what I have done. I have gone through everything in the references you gave, along with quite a lot of other sources, primary and secondary.
I have not attempted to look beyond his daughter Julian. I like to leave something for others :-D, and, as he was not a Surety Baron, the Magna Carta Project is not itself concerned with any grandchildren.
I changed the dates for Julian, which resolved the "born after father's death" error.
One question still unresolved: Information in this profile says Julian was a widow "in the 37th of that King [Henry III]," which this Regnal calendar says is 28 October 1252 - 27 October 1253. However, page 417 of the #Hervey source says "37 Henry III. 1266."
So Julian's death date is now "after 1252" based on this Regnal calendar and Adam's death is 1265 based on #Hervey showing Julian as a widow "37 Henry III. 1266."
source given for Adam's profile, on p 421, talks about lack of evidence for Adam & Julian having a son John. But also the chart, p 417, says their son John died 1292-3 (and that Julian was alive & a widow in 1266).
I think that John Hervey-30 (1290-1384) needs to be detached as son of parents Adam Hervey-33 and Julian Fitzhugh-459. Either that or all the dates for him/his family & descendants revised.
looking at Warning - his 1220 death with daughter Julian born 1226 - I think that 1205 might be a better birth year for her. Text talks of Adam (FitzHervey), her husband, holding property "of King Henry III. in his 11th year".
11th year of Henry III = 28 October 1226 - 27 October 1227
37th of Henry III = 28 October 1252 - 27 October 1253
fyi - testing over... |needs= works fine in the template. Thanks for letting me test it on this profile (you can delete this comment if you like).
the project's maintenance categories are listed [here].
for details about the needs= for Magna Carta profiles, see [this section of the Magna Carta Project sticker page - the needs= feature works the same on both the sticker & the project boxes (including the one for Illustrious Men).
I took a look at another Illustrious Man & he had Category:Magna Carta Category:Illustrious Men & {British Isles 742-1499}
I didn't PPP this profile because it only has initial cap. I've linked this profile to the name listed on the Magna Carta Project page, which is styled FitzHugh. EuroAristo naming standards call for internal cap for "Hugh" -
c. Names that include Fitz: Fitz- names should be written with mid-caps, that is, a capital letter for the father's name. For example, write FitzAlan, FitzGeoffrey, FitzGerald, etc. This is the same pattern as used in names with Mac-: MacMurray, MacDonald, etc. Do not leave a space.
edited by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
One question still unresolved: Information in this profile says Julian was a widow "in the 37th of that King [Henry III]," which this Regnal calendar says is 28 October 1252 - 27 October 1253. However, page 417 of the #Hervey source says "37 Henry III. 1266."
So Julian's death date is now "after 1252" based on this Regnal calendar and Adam's death is 1265 based on #Hervey showing Julian as a widow "37 Henry III. 1266."
I think that John Hervey-30 (1290-1384) needs to be detached as son of parents Adam Hervey-33 and Julian Fitzhugh-459. Either that or all the dates for him/his family & descendants revised.
11th year of Henry III = 28 October 1226 - 27 October 1227
37th of Henry III = 28 October 1252 - 27 October 1253
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cal/reg8.htm
the project's maintenance categories are listed [here].
for details about the needs= for Magna Carta profiles, see [this section of the Magna Carta Project sticker page - the needs= feature works the same on both the sticker & the project boxes (including the one for Illustrious Men).
Cheers, Liz
I took a look at another Illustrious Man & he had Category:Magna Carta Category:Illustrious Men & {British Isles 742-1499}
I didn't PPP this profile because it only has initial cap. I've linked this profile to the name listed on the Magna Carta Project page, which is styled FitzHugh. EuroAristo naming standards call for internal cap for "Hugh" -
c. Names that include Fitz: Fitz- names should be written with mid-caps, that is, a capital letter for the father's name. For example, write FitzAlan, FitzGeoffrey, FitzGerald, etc. This is the same pattern as used in names with Mac-: MacMurray, MacDonald, etc. Do not leave a space.
Thanks again! Liz