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Robert Fraunceys (abt. 1360 - abt. 1420)

Sir Robert "of Foremark" Fraunceys aka Francis, Franceys
Born about in Foremark, Derbyshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Husband of — married 1397 in Apley Castle, Shropshire, Englandmap
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Died about in Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 8 Jul 2011
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Biography

Sir Robert Fraunceys of Foremark, Derbyshire. [1]

Sir Robert Franceys, Sheriff of Nottinghamshire & Derbyshire was born circa 1360 at of Foremark, Derbyshire, England.[2]

He married Isabel Brumpton, daughter of Sir Thomas Brumpton, circa 1381.[3][4]

Sir Robert Franceys, Sheriff of Nottinghamshire & Derbyshire died between 1419 and 1420.[5][6]

Francis inherited the manor of Foremark from his father, who represented Derbyshire in several Parliaments and served on a number of local commissions. [7]

Kinsman of John Fraunceys, Papal legate and canon of Wells. see Will transcription. [8]

Children

  1. Isabel Fraunceys b. c 1382, d. 13 Jun 1457
  2. Sir Robert Francis, Sheriff of Derbyshire b. c 1384
  3. Joan Frauncis b. c 1386, d. a 1450
  4. Joyce Fraunceys b. c 1390
  5. Cecily Francis b. c 1400

Sources

  1. Richardson, D. (2011). "Thomas Harcourt," in Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd ed, pp. 346. [1]
  2. Burke's Commoners, Vol. II, p. 222
  3. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 420
  4. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 512.
  5. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 346.
  6. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 478.
  7. The History of Parliament.
  8. Kent Archaeological Society.


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Franceys-16 and Fraunceys-33 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate.
posted by Ron Lamoreaux
Note that HOP says Robert married the widow of Thomas de Brympton +1382, not his daughter. Isabel was daughter of Adam Peshale and Joan Eyton.

“Isabel, the wife of Thomas de Brumpton, was the daughter of Adam (?) de Peshale, and sister of Sir Adam de Peshale (I.) of Weston, Knight. She was married secondly to Thomas Gech de Newport, of High Ercall in Shropshire, Esq., and thirdly to Sir Robert Fraunceys, Knight." Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Volume 4, 14-15

Also, Richardson, in Magna Carta Ancestry calls her "Isabel (?Peshale)" p. 346 not Isabel Brimpton/Brumpton [1]

posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by Monica Edmunds
edited by Monica Edmunds
This web site looks like a potential source; to an Absolute Novice, it appears to be and extremely thorough summary of the known record(!):

History of Parliament Online https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/francis-sir-robert-141920

posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by J Stewart
Francseys-1 and Francis-207 appear to represent the same person because: these are clearly the same person, if neither name is correct, then fix and merge.
posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by Robin Lee
Source: Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume III, page 210 HARCOURT 13.

Thomas Harcourt, 1377. He married about 8 Nov. 1406 Jane (or Joan) Fraunceys, daughter of Robert Fraunceys, by Isabel, daughter of Thomas Brumpton. They had five sons, Robert, Richard, John, William, and George, and three daughters, Alice, Isabel, and Jane. Sir Thomas Harcourt died testate 6 July 1420. She, [Jane], married (2nd) before Easter 1424 (as his 2nd wife) Robert Strelley, son and heir of Nicholas Strelley, by Elizabeth, daughter of Edmund Pierrepoint. They had no issue. Sir Robert Strelley died 26 Nov. 1438. His widow, Jane, was living in 1450.

Thank you!

posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by Bettye (Holland) Carroll
Source: Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume III, page 210 HARCOURT 13.

Thomas Harcourt, 1377. He married about 8 Nov. 1406 Jane (or Joan) Fraunceys, daughter of Robert Fraunceys, by Isabel, daughter of Thomas Brumpton. They had five sons, Robert, Richard, John, William, and George, and three daughters, Alice, Isabel, and Jane. Sir Thomas Harcourt died testate 6 July 1420. She, [Jane], married (2nd) before Easter 1424 (as his 2nd wife) Robert Strelley, son and heir of Nicholas Strelley, by Elizabeth, daughter of Edmund Pierrepoint. They had no issue. Sir Robert Strelley died 26 Nov. 1438. His widow, Jane, was living in 1450.

Thank you!

posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by Bettye (Holland) Carroll
Source: Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume III, page 210 HARCOURT 13.

Thomas Harcourt, 1377. He married about 8 Nov. 1406 Jane (or Joan) Fraunceys, daughter of Robert Fraunceys, by Isabel, daughter of Thomas Brumpton. They had five sons, Robert, Richard, John, William, and George, and three daughters, Alice, Isabel, and Jane. Sir Thomas Harcourt died testate 6 July 1420. She, [Jane], married (2nd) before Easter 1424 (as his 2nd wife) Robert Strelley, son and heir of Nicholas Strelley, by Elizabeth, daughter of Edmund Pierrepoint. They had no issue. Sir Robert Strelley died 26 Nov. 1438. His widow, Jane, was living in 1450.

Thank you!

posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by Bettye (Holland) Carroll
added match but not sure if there's more duplicates.. and there's some issues w/ LNAB. prolly check w/ Doug bef. merge?
posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by Bree Ogle
We have several different spellings for the name of Robert's wife: De Pershale, DePershale and Peshall. There is no Isabel Pershale, although there are a few in the database with that last name. There are a bunch of Pershall's, but no Isabel. Which way should we go for merges?
posted on Franceys-16 (merged) by Vic Watt

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