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Samuel Fuller (bef. 1580 - 1633)

Doctor Samuel Fuller
Born before in Redenhall, Norfolk, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married [date unknown] (to before 24 Apr 1613) [location unknown]
Husband of — married 24 Apr 1613 (to before 3 Jul 1615) in Leiden, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlandenmap
Husband of — married 27 May 1617 in Leiden, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlandenmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 53 in Plymouth Colony, New Englandmap
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Biography

Birth

Samuel Fuller, son of Robert Fuller and brother of Mayflower passenger Edward Fuller, was baptized at Redenhall, Norfolk, England, 20 Jan 1580.

Marriages

1. His first wife was named Alice Glascock this we know because he is mentioned in the record of the marriage with Agnijes Carpenter as widower of Els (probably Alice) Glaescoock (Glascock) , so after her death he remarried Agnijes Carpenter.
Marriage of Samuel Fuller and Agnijes Carpenter, 24 April, 1613 Leiden
2. Samuel married April 24, 1613 Leiden: 't Ie den 16.3.1613 't IIe den 23.3.1613 't IIIe den 30.3.1613 zyn getrout voor Andries Jaspersz van Vesanevelt ende Jacob Paedts schepenen desen XXIIIIen Aprilis 1613. Samuel Fuller saeywercker van Londen in Engelant weduenaer van Els Glaescoock, vergeselschapt met Alexander Carpenter Willem Hoyt zyn zwager Rogier Wilsum ende Eduwaert Saetwoot zyn bekenden met Agnyes Carpenter jongedochter van Wrenten in Engelandt vergeselschapt met Agnys Weyt ende Els Carpenter haer zuster.[1]
Description: Marriage certificate of Samuel Fuller (M), widower of Alice Glascock, say worker from Londen in England, and Agnes Carpenter, spinster, from Wrington (Somerset) in England, with Alexander Carpenter, William White (M), the groom's brother-in-law, Roger Wilson and Edward Southworth, acquaintances of the groom, and Ann White (nee Fuller, M) and Alice Southworth nee) Carpenter (ALJ), sister of the bride, as witnesses .[2]
Marriage, Samuel Fuller and Brygit Lee May 27, 1617 Leiden
3. He buried his child in June 29, 1615, and a few days later his wife Agnes (Agnijes) Carpenter was buried July 3, 1615 , about two years later Samuel remarried Bridget Lee on May 27, 1617 at Leiden : 't Ie den 13.5.1617 't IIe den 20.5.1617 't IIIe den 27.5.1617 zyn getrout voor Willem Tybault ende Dirck van Hogeveen schepenen dezen XXVIIen May 1617. (Aenget. den XIIen May 1617) Samuel Foller saeywercker uyt Engelant weduenaer van Anna Carpenter, wonende op de Veste by de Marenpoorte, vergeselschapt met Samuel Lee zyn bekende ende toecomende zwager met Brygit Lee jongedochter mede uyt Engelant vergeselschapt met Joos Lee haer moeder
Description: Marriage certificate of Samuel Fuller, widower of Agnes Carpenter, from England, living on the Vest near the Marepoort, say worker, with Bridget Lee (ALJ), spinster, from England, with Samuel Lee, future brother-in-law of the groom, and Josephine Lee, mother of the bride, as witnesses.[3][4]

Children

  1. Child Fuller bur. at Leiden 29 June 1615 (child of second wife ?)
  2. Child "who came after" [Bradford 442] Anderson suggests (Possibly) Bridget Fuller, b. say 1619; m. Plymouth 30 Sept 1641 Henry Sirkman. This child was not named in Samuel's will
  3. Mercy Fuller b. after 22 May 1627 (1627 cattle division); named in her father's will; named in Bradford's accounting of 1651.
  4. Samuel Fuller, b. about 1629; m. (1) ____ _____ and (2) Elizabeth (Nichols) Bowen, d/o John Nichols and widow of Thomas Bowen.

Migration

Samuel came on the Mayflower in 1620, from Leiden, Holland, and settled in Plymouth. His wife followed later on the Anne.

Samuel signed the Mayflower Compact 11 Nov 1620.[5]

Plymouth

Samuel acted as a Surgeon and had a chest of surgeon's tools at his death. He was early a freeman of Plymouth and was the tax assessor in 1633. He served as deacon of the church.

Death

In 1633 there was an epidemic among the Plymouth colonists, which took Samuel. "... in the end, after he had much helped others, Samuel Fuller who was their surgeon and physician and had been a great help and comfort unto them. As in his faculty, so otherwise being a deacon of the church, a man godly and forward to do good, being much missed after his death [Bradford 260]

His will was made 30 July 1633 and proved 28 Oct 1633. His wife was also sick, so he made provision for his children Samuel and Mercy, leaving them to his brother William Wright and wife Priscilla (Carpenter). He also had several other children living in his household, which he secures their disposition. [6][7][8]

Sources

  1. Source : doop-, trouw- en begraafregister | Leiden | Trouwen Gerecht B. juli 1611 - april 1633. Marriage Samuel Fuller Leiden 24-04-1613 Groom- bruidegom Place-Plaats: Leiden Date marr int-Datum ondertrouw: 15-03-1613 Source- Bron: Schepen huwelijken (1592-1795) Groom-Bruidegom: Samuel Fuller Place of Birth-Plaats geboorte: Londen (Engeland) Occupation-Beroep: saaiwerker Wid.-Wed.: Els Glaescoock Bride-Bruid
    Agnyes Carpenter Place of Birth-Plaats geboorte: Weenten Engeland Source-Bron: Archiefnr: 1004 Archiefnaam: Schepenhuwelijken (1592-1795) Inventarisnummer: 198 Folio: B - 018v Remarks- Opmerkingen: Witnesses Groom-Getuigen bruidegom: Alexander Carpenter bekende - Willem Hoyt zwager - Witnesses Bride-Getuigen bruid: Agnys Weyt - Els Carpenter zuster - Witn. Groom-Get bruidegom: Roger Wilsum en Eduwaert Sadtwoot, bekenden. See also literature-Zie ook literatuur: Tammel. Last name deceased wife added by rsearcher -Achternaam ovl vrouw bruidegom toegevoegd door onderzoeker.Source Erfgoed Leiden en Omstreken scan marriage 24 April, 1613
  2. Pilgrim Archives : Marriage Date 1613, April 24 Register of marriages before aldermen Place: Leiden Names: Fuller, Samuel, Glascock, Alice, Carpenter, Ann (Agnes), Fuller, Ann (Agnes), Carpenter, Alexander, White, William, Wilson, Roger, Southworth, Edward, White, Agnes, Carpenter, Alice, Southworth, Alice, Paedts, Jacob, Vesaneveldt, Andries Jaspersz. van .
  3. Leiden Register of marriages before aldermen Recordnumber: 1004 Sequencenumber: B Pagenumber: 64 Date: 1617, May 27 Names: Fuller, Samuel, Carpenter, Agnes, Lee, Bridget, Lee, Samuel, Lee, Josephine, Fuller, Bridget, Thybault, Willem Cornelisz., Hogeveen, Dirk van Place : Leiden Residence : Street: Vest, Marepoort Leiden Pilgrim Archives
  4. trouw- en begraafregister | Leiden | Trouwen Gerecht B. juli 1611 - april 1633. Samuel Foller, 27-05-1617 : Index: Samuel Foller Leiden: 27-05-1617 Groom- bruidegom Place-Plaats: Leiden Int Mar. Date- Datum ondertrouw: 12-05-1617 Bron: Schepenhuwelijken (1592-1795) Bruidegom: Samuel Foller Place of Birth- Plaats geboorte: Engelant Residence Groom- Woonplaats bruidegom-Marepoort. Bij de - op de Veste Occupation-Beroep: saaiwerker Wid-Wed.: Anna Carpenter Bride-Bruid: Brygit Lee Place of Birth-Plaats geboorte: Engelant. Source-Bron: Archiefnr 1004 Archiefnaam: Schepenhuwelijken (1592-1795) Inventarisnummer: 198 Folio: B - 064 Remarks- Opmerkingen: Wintnesses groom- Getuigen bruidegom: Samuel Lee future brother in law- toekomstig zwager - Witnesses Bride- Getuigen bruid: Joos Lee mother- moeder doop-, Leiden Archief index Leiden archief scan
  5. Morton, Nathaniel. New England's memorial. (Boston: Congregational board of publication, 1855) Originally published 1669.p. 26 Note: The original compact is gone. Morton furnished the earliest known list 1669 facsimile
  6. The Mayflower descendant : a quarterly magazine of Pilgrim genealogy and history Author Massachusetts Society of Mayflower Descendants. Vol. 1, Page 24 Will of Samuel Fuller 30 July 1633
  7. Mayflower History.com Will of Samuel Fuller Dated: 30 July 1633 at Plymouth.
  8. "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (30 July 1633, Will of Samuel Fuller : 17 Sep 2018), Wills 1633-1686 vol 1-4 > image 10 of 616; State Archives, Boston.
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. The Pilgrim Migration: Immigrants to Plymouth Colony 1620-1633. (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2004) pp 217-221.
  • Bradford: Anderson cites William Bradford, Of Plymouth Plantation, 1620-1647, Samuel Eliot Morison, ed. (New York 1952) which edition is not online. See instead History of Plymouth Plantation pp 448 "Mr. Samuell Fuller, and a servant, caled William Butten. His wife was behind, & a child, which came afterwards." and 451 Mr Fuller his servant dyed at sea; and after his wife 2. came over, he had tow children by her, which are living and growne up to years; but he dyed some 15. years agoe."
  • Pennsylvania Mayflower Society biography (via Wayback Machine)
  • Samuel Fuller, Dr., the Pilgrim Samuel Fuller
  • Bangs, Jeremy Dupertus, Strangers and Pilgrims, Travellers and Sojourners - Leiden and the Foundations of Plymouth Plantation, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, Massachusetts, 2009
  • Sherman, Ruth Wilder and Robert Moody, both FASG, Re-Edited by Wakefield, Robert S., FASG, Mayflower Families through Five Generations, Volume 10, Family of Samuel Fuller, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA., 2013
  • Wikipedia: Samuel_Fuller_(Pilgrim) Samuel Fuller (Pilgrim)
  • Bradford, William, 1590-1657. Of Plimoth Plantation: manuscript, 1630-1650. State Library of Massachusetts "List of Mayflower Passengers." In Bradford's Hand.
  • Fuller, Francis H., Early New England Fullers, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 1901) Vol. 55, Page 192.


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This message arrived via the private messaging system from a non-WikiTree member, but I feel it should be posted here for further discussion among the Project membership:

As a descendant of Samuel, I feel strongly that the use of the term Doctor should be discontinued. He was a not a doctor as he had no formal medical training. He was a deacon of the congregation in Leiden and Plymouth and he served the role of surgeon and physician. Perhaps Doctor should be replaced with Deacon. I was successful in getting the Society of Mayflower Descendants to stop using the term doctor on their website. He has been identified as the first importer to North America of opiates as he had a supply of laudanum with him on the Mayflower. Thank you for your consideration of my suggested change.

Since WikiTree's guidance on Namefield Prefixes doesn't mention the use of an assumed title or degree, as this appears to be in Samuel's case, perhaps we need to consider moving the title to the biography - IF we can find a legitimate source for when he was referred to as a doctor.

Thoughts?

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Hello all,

On the one hand I can understand the objection and support it. On the other hand many doctors back in those days did not get any formal training through schools. Like almost every other profession back them everyone started as Apprentices. Lawyer would Apprentice and then take the Bar Exam. Did some Doctors back then do about the same thing? Do we have a Medical Historian in the group that can answer that? Sorry just do not know.

For now, I would take the Doctor title out of the Name .... but I also would not add the title Deacon, at least not until that can be documented. Additionally, I would add a special section to the Bio about him being a Surgeon and Healer/Doctor. Mean time I think someone needs to do more research to see who he was Apprenticed too? Sorry but those are not skills you learn all on your own! He got training somewhere and from someone. Whichever can be documented should be put in!

That my two Cents!

posted by Jeff Michaelsen
edited by Jeff Michaelsen
I have a question about Samuel Fuller. At one time wasn't it proved that John Sprague was the biological son of Samuel Fuller through DNA?

? Fuller: His Biological Father However, there is new information, published in Volume 67, Number 2, page 177 of the Mayflower Descendant: An Illustrated Quarterly Magazine of Pilgrim Genealogy, History, and Biography [NEHGS website], which is not yet available in the NHEGS database. This article, entitled Lt. John Sprague (ca. 1655–1727/8) of Duxbury, Mass., and Lebanon, Conn., an illegitimate son of Samuel2 Fuller (Samuel1)? by Christopher Challender Child, an NEHGS staff member currently referenced on the NEHGS website. According to Wikitree member A (Fasg), in a comment on this profile, the article states that John may not have been the biological son of John Sprague, and provides a case for his biological father to have been Samuel Fuller Jr, as follows:

At the General Court at Plymouth on 6 Jun 1655, John2 Sprague, son of Francis, and Ruth Bassett, daughter of William, of Duxbury were "present[ed] for fornication before they were married..." indicating that the infant John was born less than 9 months after the wedding.

This alone would be genealogically unremarkable, but a comparison of the Y-DNA of descendants of eldest son John3 to younger sons Samuel and William and other Sprague children show John3 was not John2 Sprague's biological child. These descendants match the Y-DNA haplogroup of the Fullers of Plymouth. Only Samuel2 Fuller (Samuel1), born 1625, Plymouth Colony, died 17 August 1695, Middleboro, Plymouth County, was living near Duxbury.

Y-DNA evidence proves where the father of John Sprague (II) was a Fuller and an upcoming Mayflower Descendant article (scheduled for Summer 2022) will be discussing this in further detail.

posted by Keith Mann Spencer
edited by Keith Mann Spencer
See the answer given to the G2G Post
posted by Anne B
Here is a YouTube video of Dr. Samuel Fuller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZLshRRVdog

posted by Keith Mann Spencer
Dang! Went to look at the YouTube vid, and it's been removed...
posted by David Finster
Sorry about that David. Too bad it was removed because I thought the video was interesting. I found another video of Samuel Fuller.
posted by Keith Mann Spencer
Should his parents be uncertain?
posted by S (Hill) Willson
NEHGR 55(1901):411 lists his baptism record from Redenhall.
posted by Robin Anderson
Hi all,

Just was reading things and noticed he according his (second) marriage record was a sayworker from London, England, so for many (not all) it would be the place of Birth that was mentioned in a marriage record. So perhaps he wasn't born in Redenhall but in London ?

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
If Dr. Fuller was born in 1580, and died in 1683, he would have been 103 year old. If he died in 1633, he would have been about 53 when he died. I would accept the 1633 date as more accurate. I have read that there was an epidemic in Plymouth Colony about that time.
posted by Becky (Nally) Syphers
There is a Pilgrim Samuel Fuller born 1612, died 1683 and was son of Pilgrim Edward Fuller. Samuel born 1580 and Edward are brothers
posted by Julia (Baldwin) Howard
Samuel Fuller whom I always refer to as Dr. Samuel Fuller, brother of Edward Fuller, had a son whom he named Samuel Fuller, aka Rev. Samuel Fuller. Brother Edward, had a son on board the Mayflower with him and his brother, who was also named Samuel Fuller. In the first 80 years, give or take a few, nearly everyone name Fuller named at least one son in each generation Samuel Fuller. It can get very confusing. Always check dates and spouses.
posted by Leila (Phelps) Schutz
It's probably 1633, his will states on July 30th "being sick & weake but by the mercie of God in prfect memory" and it's believed he died Aug. 9th. If he died 1683 he would be 103 at death
posted by Julia (Baldwin) Howard
How sure are we on death date? I've seen it as 1633 and as 1683? I see now. 1683 is death date of his nephew Samuel Fuller, son of his brother Edward
posted by Karen Kay
Note that William White is mentioned at the second marriage as the brother in law of Samuel Fuller and that Ann White nee Fuller is also present at this marriage.

To me this looks like proof William white and Ann Fuller (William the woolcomber !) where the couple that left with the Mayflower and also that Samuel was her brother . This probably is the only record where she is mentioned as Ann White nee Fuller (so with her maiden name as well) ?

There's no proof whatsoever in the Leiden archive for the so called fact William White the woolcomber being still in Leiden after the Mayflower left ...

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Hi ,

Added records some info and sources of the marriages from Leiden and a source with a lot of info including the will and more. Adjusted the will , all different little parts, to make it more easy to read.

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
This profile is to be merged with its duplicates. If you are interested in working on the merge, please contact me.

Thanks, Becky Syphers 11/3/2012

posted by Becky (Nally) Syphers