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Arora is a Descendant of Germain Doucet b.1641 (8 x's) through Paternal line of "father " and of both of his parents- paternal (3x's) and maternal (5xs)-Ancestral line descendants to Germain Doucet-b. 1641, First Nations (Indigenous of Nova Scotia Canada).
Endogamy is a key factor for many of the grandparents of Arorasky. More info about Endogamy and genetic testing results can be read about here-[2]
Quote- From time to time, a family monograph raises a corner of the veil that covers our past. Roy, Descarry, Massicotte, Phaneuf, Chouinard, Gosselin, the Lavoie can boast of having the splendor of their obscure but fruitful history.
Origine des familles canadiennes-françaises : extrait de l'état civil français, première série / par Archange Godbout, 1886-1960, pg.8, [3]
Genealogy has been a part of my life for about 23+ years. I've seen & read many things online over the years, seen many lil wars online about "supposed" facts of the past. Researching is important, then researching more helps to make sure, what is found, is accurate...Sometimes history surprises us, if we keep an open mind, and just look for the "truth".
Advance Directive
Should I suddenly, unexpectedly or slowly...leave this earth, die, kick the bucket, skidattle to the other side, journey home, leave earth as a human in exchange for spirit world/ hanging out with Creator/God/Jesus the Ancestors and the Angels...well then....I hereby give permission for Any and All of my 5 Children, and their Children (once they are of adult ages) to all take over my profile and all of those that I am profile manager for. (Most likely my Daughter H.N.B b.92 will be first to volunteer for said position) I also grant access and consent for Susan Susan McCollister Anonymous to become a pm of my profile and the ones I manage (if she wants to that is- she may not wanna take on more history than she already has on her own plate.) I don't give consent or permission to remove my badge stickers that interlink to all of our ancestors that are proven to be native.(paper-trails or genetically)..by anyone! My hope is that my children and thier children after them will choose to dig into all that I've worked on for decades, and choose to fill in all the gaps, while learning who we are, and where we came from thru each of the lines I've connected here, which include (Gramma/Meme' & Grampa/Pepe'(Pepe linked to Gramma-Meme' Como married 2nd x) . Writing this directive has made me think...
We all Bleed "Red
Message from Arorasky-
In the scheme of life we are all twigs on the tree and are all related. Just sitting back waiting for the day when all will realize this, appreciate it, and want to create the tree that shows because of this.... we all care about each other. Its not where we come from, or who we came from that is most important.... its what we learn from these ancestors and connections, and how we apply these things.. that may make a difference someday.
Direct Line Grandparents Native Origins
Nathalie Blaquiere - 2nd gr.grandmother of Arora- /Sister of Barbe Blaquiere- gr.aunt of Arora- mtdna testing confirms this maternal line as Native from Barbe Blaquiere-38 through Victoire Doiron, Doiron-643 maternal line to Marie Christine Aubois/Hautbois. The brickwall at the time of the person tested was located at Victoire Doiron (3rd gr.grandmother of Arora)- mother of Nathalie Blaquiere (parents b4 were not known by the subject of the testing.
Ann OXIHNOROUDH/ Ouestnorouest (dite Petitous) is a 7th Gr.grandmother of Arora. thru son Pierre Martin to Berthelemi to Firmin to Laurent to Maxim to Maxim-Alphie to Veronique to Marguerite Pitre (Aroras' Grandmother (Paternal)
Marie Christine Hautbois/Aubois - is 8th gr.grandmother (4x's) of Arora, Thru mtdna confirmed test results =Victoire Doiron>dau.Barbe Blaquiere, sister of Nathalie Blaquiere-(2nd gr.grndmthr of Arora). Documents confirm familial lines of Nathalie, Barbe, & mother- Victoire Doiron m. to Firmin Blaquiere confirms Victoire Doiron-Aroras' 3rd gr.grmother as having mtdna haplogroup A2-C64T which should carry thru to Aroras' paternal Grandfather- Alphonse.
Petit Esquimaux Woman - 7th & 8th gr. grandmother of Arora-8xs
Michel Hache dit Gallant (son of Petit Esquimaux Woman) is Arora's 6th& 7th gr.grandfather (direct line-paternal) -8xs
Marie (Jeanne) Abenaki-Doucet-mother of Germain Doucet b.1641 is 8th great grandmother (8x's) of Arora.
Native Cousins''
Chief Wilma Pearl Mankiller (OK Cherokee Nation) and Arora are 20th cousins 3xs removed sharing 66 common Ancestors. Wilma Pearl Mankiller (1945-2010) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Matilda (De Campania) de Hilton (1325-1369).
Benjamin Kendrick Pierce and Arora are 13th cousins 4xs removed, Benjamin (1790-1850) and Arora are both descendants of Robert (Whitney) de Whitney (abt.1340-1402).
James "Jim" Thorpe - Potawatomie fox/sac and Arora are - 7 cousins twice removed, 17 degrees (grfather- Pierre Roy) - 1912 Olympian, 1950 American Football, Athlete
Potawatomi Chief Joseph Laframboise and Arora are 6th cousins 5xs times removed, both are descendants of Guillaume Couillard. & again..
Chief Joseph Laframboise and Arora are 6th cousins five times removed, Joseph Laframboise (abt.1798-1867) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Marie Guillemette Hébert (abt.1608-1684).
Josette La Francoise Pierce and Arora are 6th cousins five times removed, Josette (La Framboise) Pierce (1795-1820) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Marie Guillemette Hébert (abt.1608-1684).
Metis Rebellion - Louis David Riel
Louis David Riel (Metis Rebellion) and Arora are 6th cousins 4 x's removed. Louis Riel fils and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Jean (Mignot) Mignault.
Abraham Sioui and Arora are 6th cousins 4x's removed, Abraham Sioui (1849-1930) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Marie Louise Cloutier (1632-1699).
Martha M (Crowder) Folsom, Choctaw Nation 5th cousin, 4x's removed, both descendants of Andre Babeu- Martha M (Crowder) Folsom (abt.1832-1922) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of André Babeu (1657-1722). Marthas' line goes thru Andre Babeau (1657-1722)-Anglique Babeu- Marie Pimot- Louis B. Durant Sr.- Margaret Durant Crowder- Harris Crowder- Martha Crowder. Aroras' line goes thru Andre Babeu- (to son)-Andre Babeu- Catherine Babeu- Marie-Josephte Dubois L'Hirondelle- Josephte (Moquin) Bissonnette, Florence (Bissonnette) Longtin- Marie Melanie (Longtin) Chouinard- Marie Melanie (Chouinard) Phaneuf- Odile Mary (Phaneuf- Private)- (Private/ Living)- Arora
André Babeu -the 4th great grandfather of Martha Crowder.*
Louis Riel (the Father) and Arora are 5th cousins 5 x's removed. Louis Riel père and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of François Boucher.
Julie (Lagimodiere) Riel (1822-1906) Julie and Arora are 5th cousins 5xs times removed (in 2 ways), and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Marie Louise Cloutier (1632-1699). & Julie and Arora are 5th cousins five times removed, Julie (Lagimodiere) Riel (1822-1906) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Jean (Mignot) Mignault dit Châtillon (1622-bef.1681).
Ambroise Dydime Lépine and Arora are 4th cousins 5x's removed. Ambroise Dydime Lépine (1840-1923) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Anne Ouestnorouest (abt.1644-aft.1687).
Emily Picotte Bonnin and Arora are 4th cousins 4xs removed, Emily (Picotte) Bonnin (1841-1904) and Arora are both descendants of Élisabeth Levron (1690-abt.1763).
Captain Joseph Renville (1779-1846) and Arora are 4th cousins, 5xs removed, both descendants of Mathurine Goard (abt.1648-1720).
Lewis and Clark Expedition
Jean Baptiste Charbonneau (1805-1866) and Arora (G) Anonymous, are 3rd cousins 6 times removed are both descendants of Pierre Deniau (abt.1670-abt.1750).
Toussaint Charbonneau (1767-1843 and Arora (G) Anonymous, are second cousins 7 times removed, & are both descendants of Pierre Deniau (abt.1670-abt.1750).Toussaint Charbonneau and his wife Sakakawea (Sacagawea) Charbonneau (Shoshone Nation) were the guides & Interpreters for Lewis & Clark during the Westward expantion of the US.
1st Nations & American Indian "Cousins" by - Degrees of Separation thru Marraiges
Marie Mathilde Penobscot is 12 Degrees from Arora→✖D_Abbadie-1.Anastasie D'Abbadie(her daughter)→✖Marie Leborgne de Bellisle(her daughter)→✖Anselme Robichaud(her son)→✖Geneviève Marquis(his wife)→✖Joseph Bergeron(her husband)→✖Jean Francois Bergeron(his brother)→✖Marcel Bergeron(his son)→✖Domitilde d'Amboise(his daughter)→✖Comeau-436.pngArchie Comeau(her son)→✖Como-27.jpgGordon Como(his son)→✖Anonymous Como(his daughter)→G-499-7.jpgArora G(her daughter)
29 degrees from Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekt Nez Perce,
Canada- Metis and First Nations Research-
Researcher- Permission to Cite his works within the Canada / Quebec Archives Oct.28, 2019
Arorasky- * (removal here of name & email info by Arora-self)
Hi Eric, not sure if you remember me, but I have a question. I do a lot of volunteering on the genealogical website - wikitree, and unlike Ancestry/Heritage/familysearch etc this site we are all volunteers and the site is basically run by all who work on the site. The purpose of the site is to use one profile per person who lived. so all duplicates are continually being merged. Also finding viable primary and really good secondary sources is what is ideal for profiles..not other ppls trees etc. My question is, I keep coming across your docs /papers/ examinations of records, when I'm searching the Archives, and sometimes, your collection of something maybe the only doc I'm finding of a specific person. So I was wondering, may I link to your "source" evidence in the Archives in these instances, and if needed quote a small portion, something like "marie xxx married joseph xxxx at Mission d'Oka et Kanehsatà:ke" and then put the source reference link back to your pages in the Archives. This would certainly help to remove some of the fake lines within genealogical trees, because your work is sooo thorough, and would also help to improve the genealogical connections where there are some on the site saying... "they weren't native" and they are emphatically refusing to allow "native" tags or native ancestry tags to these profiles.
Like I said, this is to help clear up the fake, and bring to the forefront the truths in genealogical research.
the original purpose of my joining wikitree was because (A J Jacobs) wants/wanted to prove...that yes indeed we are all related in some way, we all connect. This site does things with computer programs not found on other sites, we are hoping that eventually this will be the most viable truthful genealogical website for family histories all over the world. In the process...maybe we will show...
We Are All Related.
thank you for you time, and consideration with this. by the way.. I save your work each time you drop another. sometimes I don't have the time to read immediately, but I definately read them and refer back to them while I'm researching docs in Canada.. thank you your research is sooo valuable to answering so many questions.
Arorasky
From:
E. P.-Thisdale
Université du Québec à Montréal
Faculty Member, Faculté des sciences humaines
Oct 30, 2019
E. P.-Thisdale
Hi--- (***), yes I do remember you and yes, sure I wouldn't mind ! Keep up the good work as well this is an amazing project!
"E. P.-Thisdale is a researcher since 15 years in the field of public archives of various sources, including historical and demographic archives who conducted several researches for Band Councils political land claims, as well as for particulars. Presently researcher for the Band Council of his community, Kanesatake, and a contributing writer and historical columnist for the weekly paper from the Kahnawake community, award winner of the best business, education stories from the Quebec Community Newspaper Association on 2016."
written by :E.Pouliot-Thisdale
Wikitree Cousins
Noella Pitre and Arora are 3rd Cousins- thru 2nd gr.gr.mother Sophie Buote. Noella Pitre and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Sophie Buote (1814-abt.1860), And Share 28 common Ancestors
Annette Comier and Arora are 5th cousins through Joseph Pineau, and share 169 common Ancestors.
Jason Grant and Arora are 7th cousins once removed. Jason Grant and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of François Boudrot dit Manne (abt.1692-aft.1763). Jason and Arora share 147 common Ancestors.
James Lalone and Arora are 7th cousins once removed, James LaLone (1946-2023) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Jacques Daigneau (1703-1769) (genealogical friend and cousin).
Josée Bouthillette, and Arora are 8th cousins, both are descendants of Gabriel Blouin (1691-1772).
Chris Whitten and Arora are 20th cousins three times removed
Chris Whitten and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Joan (Cromwell) de Freville (abt.1264-abt.1335). There are 74 common ancestors were found between Chris and Arora
Susan (Mccollister) Beech- Susan and Arora are 21st cousins. Susan (Mccollister) Beech and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Joan (FitzWilliam) Thornhill (abt.1300-1384). (Susan is my Research Buddy into finding truths of Native People of the US.)
Marie (Laveau) Glapion and Arora are fourth cousins 6 times removed, Marie (Laveau) Glapion and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Étienne Trudeau.
Wikitree Relationship Finder Fun-- Gee "a Princess in my own Mind"..lol..(maybe relationship finder is broken..stuck on royals..lol too funny)
Royal Grandparents
King Charlemagne 32th gr.grandfather of Arora (through)- Catherine (Baillon) de Baillon 8th great grandmother of Arora- Louis I is the son of Charlemagne Carolingian -This makes Karolus Magnus the 25th great grandfather of Catherine. There are 1302 ancestral paths to King Charlemagne from Arora.
Hludowic (Carolingian) Holy Roman Emperor of France is 31th great grandfather of Arora, with 870 direct line paths found by wikitree relationship finder.
Alfonso (Castilla) Castilla y Leon(Alfonso VI, King of Castilla y León (b. 1038/40 Compostela - d. 30 Jun 1109 Toledo) bur. San Mancio chapel in the royal monastery of Santos Facundo y Primitivo, Sahagún, León is the 27 Grgrandfather of Arora-2 x's
Queen of France-Adélaïde (Savoie) de Maurienne -2nd Queen consort of Louis VI of France niece of Pope Callixtus II, the 25th great grandmother of Arora.
Royal Cousins(most likely hiccups in links or relation finder)
Queen of England- Philippa and Arora are 3rd cousins 20 times removed- [4]
Henry III (Plantagenet) of England and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Louis VI (Capet) de France. Henry III and Arora are third cousins 23 times removed
Richard (Richard III) "King of England, Duke of GloucesterYork-1245 and Arora are 7th cousins 15 times removed, Richard III (York) of England KG and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Ralph (Middleham) FitzRanulph. (War of the Roses, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjfiXw6me0A, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Bxx2phuAE, & Richard III and Arora are 7th cousins 15 times removed. Richard III (York) of England KG and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg
"King of England" Edward IV York-1159 and Arora (G) Anonymous and Edward IV of York are 6th cousins 17 times removed are both descendants of Ralph (Middleham) FitzRanulph.
King of England - Henry VIII and Arora (as of Jan 22 2020) are 8th cousins 15 times removed. Arora (G) Anonymous and Henry VIII (Tudor) of England are both descendants of Ralph (Middleham) FitzRanulph. (new addtn'l connect yr-2020)
Elizabeth "Queen of England" York formerly Woodville, Woodville-12 (aka- the White Queen) and Arora are 8th cousins 15 times removed - both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg.
"King of Scotland James III Stewart-2316" and Arora are 8th cousins 15 times removed. James III Stewart and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg.
Catherine (Medici) de Médicis and Arora are 9th cousins 14 times removed Catherine (Medici) de Médicis and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg.
Princess of Denmark, Margaret Oldenburg-27, and Arora are 9th cousins 15 times removed, Margaret (Oldenburg) Danmark and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Dirk VI (Kleve) von Kleve.
King of England - Henry VIII and Arora are 10th cousins 13 times removed (as of 2019)-Henry VIII (Tudor) of England and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg. (see new 2020 connection above)
Queen of Scots- Mary I (Stuart) and Arora are 11th cousins 11 times removed
King of France, Louis XIV and Arora are 12th cousins 11 times removed, Bourbon-106 Louis XIV (Bourbon) de France and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg.
Elizabeth Angela Marguerite "Queen Elizabeth, Queen Consort, and Arora are 16th cousins three times removed. Elizabeth (Bowes-Lyon) Windsor and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Henry Savile Esq..
Queen Elizabeth II A. Windsor and Arora are 15th cousins 1x Removed Queen Elizabeth II Windsor and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Jean Luillier.
Anastasia Romanov and Arora are 15th Cousins 1 R, sharing 49 Ancestors. Анастасия Николаевна (Романова) Romanov (1901-1918) and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Jean Luillier (-abt.1455).
Lady Diana Frances and Arora are 19th cousins, Diana Spencer Princess of Wales and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Henry Savile Esq..
Queen Victoria and Arora are 19th cousins 3 times removed. Victoria (Hanover) of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Ralph (Middleham) FitzRanulph.
George VI "King of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions and Arora are 22nd cousins once removed. George VI)" Windsor George VI (Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha) Windsor and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Ralph (Middleham) FitzRanulph.
Aristocrats- Earls, Lords, Ladies, etc
Duke - Henri Brabant-6 de Brabant is the 23rd Grandfather of Arora. (Ancestral line thru Catherine Baillon Aroras 8th gr.grndmother.
Tycho Brahe-29 and Arora are 16th cousins 13 times removed. Tycho Brahe and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Magnus (Billung) von Sachsen. Tycho- Astronomer, Mathmatician, Alchemist, coined- "nova". Tycho had a pet moose that fell down the castle stairs "drunk" and died.
Sir John "7th Lord Ferrers" Grey of Groby Grey-159, John and Arora are 6th cousins 17 times removed both descendants of Edmund Deincourt.
Presidents Connections -
Thomas Jefferson and Arora are 13th cousins 6x's removed. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) and Arora (G) Anonymous- both descendants of Elizabeth (Thornhill) Savile (abt.1360-abt.1437).
James Madison Jr. and Arora are 15th cousins 8x's removed. James Madison Jr. (1751-1836) and Arora (G) Anonymous - both descendants of Katherine (Knowsley) Lathom (1247-aft.1325).
President Richard Nixon and Arora are 22nd cousins once removed
Declaration of Independence USA- Signers
Francis Lightfoot Lee (1734-1797) and Arora (G) Francis and Arora are 14th cousins 9 times removed, & are both descendants of Katherine (Knowsley) Lathom (1247-aft.1325).
Jack (Chaney) London and Arora are 6th cousins three times removed-both are descendants of John Nutting. Author of "White Fang", "The Call of the Wild" and more
AlexTrebek and Arora are 7th cousins once removed, Alex Trebek and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Michel (Migner) Mignier.
Emily Dickinson and Arora are 9th cousins five times removed, Emily Dickinson and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of William Stebbins.
Ross Perot and Arora are 9th cousins once removed Ross Perot and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Perrine (Meunier) Mousnier.
George Eastman (Founder of Kodak Company)and Arora are 9th cousins five times removed. Arora (G) Anonymous and George Eastman are both descendants of William Stebbins. (Aroras' Phaneuf/Farnsworth Ancestors)
Christopher Plummer and Arora are 10th cousins & are both descendants of Jean Dumais.
Amelia Earhart and Arora are 11th Cousins 3x's removed & are both descendants of William Stebbins.
Janis Lyn Joplin and Arora (G) Anonymous are 12th Cousins 2xs Removed, both descendants of William Stebbins (abt.1540-1603).
Diana Ross and Arora are 11th cousins 3x's removed * share 10 common Ancestors. Diana Ross and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Jean Cusson (1630-1718).
Wilbur Scoville-419 and Arora are 12th cousins four times removed. {Wilbur -"Scoville Heat Scale Chili Peppers"}. Wilbur Scoville]] and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Nicholas Savile.
Lord George ByronByron-127 Poet and Arora are 15th cousins through their gr.grandfather- William Fitzwilliam.
Susan B. Anthony and Arora, are 21st Cousins once removed, & Susan is 16 Degrees from Arora.
Elvis Presley and Arora are 17th cousins once removed ( & 21 degrees from) - Elvis Presley and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg.
Walt Disney and Arora are 18th cousins twice removed, Walt Disney and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Maud (De Campania) de Hilton.
Judy (Gumm) Garland and Arora are 18th cousins twice removed. Judy (Gumm) Garland and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Maud (De Campania) Campania.
David Hawkins Stern Crockett (Davy) and Arora are 18th cousins 5x's removed David Hawkins Stern Crockett (1786-1836) and Arora are both descendants of Ralph (Middleham) FitzRanulph (abt.1218-1270).
Daniel Boone and Arora are 13th cousins four times removed.
Manfred (von Richthofen) Freiherr von Richthofen- "The Red Baron" and Arora (G) Anonymous are 20th cousins twice removed both descendants of Waleram IV (Limburg) von Limburg.
Elon Musk and Arora are 22nd cousins, sharing 53 additional ancestors
Orville Wright and Arora are 22nd cousins 3xs times removedOrville Wright and Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Louis VII (Capet) de France.
Robert Joseph Dole (1923-2021) and Arora are 25th cousins once removedand Arora (G) Anonymous are both descendants of Maud (Morville) de Vipont (abt.1144-).
Milton Wright, Dan Wright, Sarah Freeman, Edmund Freeman, Abigail Freeman, Aaron Hovey, Olive Farwell, John Farwell, Elizabeth Farwell, John Stone, Farnsworth-1192.jpg-Matthias Farnsworth, Pierre Phaneuf, Jean Phaneuf, Marcel Phaneuf, Phaneuf-58-4.jpg-Cyrille Phaneuf, Phaneuf-58-7.jpg-Joseph Phaneuf, Phaneuf-57-2.jpg-Odile Mary Phaneuf, Anonymous Como, G-499-7.jpg-Arora G
Arora is 23 degrees from William Bligh, 23 degrees from Fletcher Christian, 29 degrees from Peter Heywood, 20 degrees from Thomas Jamison, 22 degrees from George Johnston, 22 degrees from Thomas Laycock, 24 degrees from John Macarthur, 27 degrees from D'Arcy Wentworth, 21 degrees from Horatio Nelson and 26 degrees from Mary Gorman.
David Bowie is 30 degrees from Arora thru Como/Phaneuf/Farnworth/Nutting/Eggleston/Eggleton/Blodgett/Simmons/Herbert/Harbart/Suggs/McDowell/Burns/Jones
What does the following Quote mean to you as a Genealogist or Family Researcher?
In Reference to Acadian Genealogy from:
'Quote- “After dismissing the limitation that we have imposed elsewhere that we are not descendants of native or natives of Acadia further than the generation of their grandchildren, we were able to add more than 260 families in our book.”
The above Quote is an Actual Quote, involving the making and publications of genealogical materials- books, historical type docs, Genealogical Society type materials. When I asked a reputable Genealogist (who works sometimes quite closely with this one who said the quote- The "reputable -Genealogist" informed me..."Well, this Genealogist in question- was only requested to do "Acadian"genealogies."....
My question of this quote was..."Does this mean, that those of Acadia Ancestries' their Decendents who were born of "mixed-blood" or native/indigenous ancestries are not included within their own families in multiple publications and books involving Acadian Genealogies"?...
By the response of - "Well, this Genealogist in question- was only requested to do "Acadian" genealogies."
I suppose...I got my answer...So...If you are looking for mysteriously missing, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, parents, siblings of different families of Acadian Ancestries, and don't understand why in "Acadian books of marriages, births, deaths," etc.. your pieces of puzzles are missing...maybe you need to be looking in books that have more historical impact and significance...because....books written in time periods in question, include a lot of information, currently lacking in "Acadian" books currently available.
This is my Public Wiki-Profile....and this is who I am, just a Family Researcher interested in Fact Finding on ALL Families...not just interested in finding...specific "bloodline-heritage types"....
What Acadian means to me- ( I think it means..only including those whose families came only from France & continued only bloodlines of only french decendants...so if you have a marriage in there that is from Indigenous, English, Scottish, Irish, etc....they most likely aren't in the Acadian Books
Research and Research some more..
Just because "every genealogist or every ancestral site declares, some man or woman came over on a ship in the early 1600's, doesn't mean these ones that came over, were "FROM EUROPE, FRANCE, etc!"
The following is from the Jesuit Relations Archives vol. V ( LeJeune) ... this book as been somewhat translated and is available online
"32 (p. IOs).-Maurault (Hist. Abenakis, p. IS) says that the Abenakis " were not wont to show their discontent or hatred by oaths or blasphemies. The same thing may still be noticed among them. They have the greatest horror of imprecations and blasphemies; and there are no words in their language to express these, so often uttered by Canadians." Cf. Schoolcraft (Ind. Trzöes, vol. vi., p. 682): .. The Algonquin language has no words for the expression of oaths; an Algonquin can neither swear nor blaspheme."
33 (p. 107).-Pierre Antoine, surnamed Pastedechouan (Patetchounon, or Atetkouanon); a young Montagnais or Canadian, who was taken to France (1620) by the Récollet missionaries, and there baptized and educated.
Sagard says that" he became proficient in Latin and French; and, on his return to Quebec [1625], the missionaries were obliged to send him back to his relatives for a time, that he might regain his native language, which he had almost forgotten. " Captured by Admiral Kirk in 1628, he refused to serve as an interpreter, and soon after escaped. See an account of this youth in Sagard's Canada, pp. 865, 936-938; d. Creuxius's Hist. Canad., p. 110; Shea's Le Clercq, vol. i., pp. 235, 273, 29--1--296. "
We ALL Bleed RED...no matter what our Origins.
MY take on mtDNA and yDNA testing to prove or disprove one is either native or isn't...Being Native is about knowing who you are, defining who you are, thru choices and ways of living, doing, thinking, and carrying forward. Blood alone ...genetics alone cannot and will not make you suddenly "different" from who you were yesterday, last year, or from time since your birth. Ones who flat refuse to see "possibilities" and or facts within records- if they found "impurities" outside their French/English/etc bloodlines, those ones that would hide this "kind of genealogical information" to promote only their purest, forms of historical documentation leading back to some possible or make-believe or real...royal bloodline in another country...you'd better wake up, because many out there in your own families are fed up with having these pieces of information that would connect their lines to yours..hidden from them. mtdna or ydna, testing is increasing, and from the results are coming the conclusions that many knew prior to being tested...and by those who to this day and year still refuse to do genetic testing..they always knew without tests-their bloodlines are of "mixed" genetics, "Americanindian" or "First Nations Canada" or "Metis" or Innu/Inuit/Aleut, etc.. A test tells others..what they themselves have always known.
For those who have been told.."there is no native in "that line" and then assume this means you have no native blood..you are feeding into what others want for you to believe. Some are failing to tell you the ins and outs of genetic mtDna & yDna testing and the truths of what these tests can show and can't show about your genetics...in either case it is only testing 1 specific line..either father, father father etc or mother mother mother mother etc....this leaves out allllll sorts of grandparents who aren't being tested at all...just think about that for one moment. That is a lot of genetics being left out.
Examples of wrong assumptions based on 2ndary and 3rd party sources then ydna, mtDna, have proven ancestry lines may not be what some "experts" online have demanded they are ethnically. This has lead to continual verbal battles all over the internet for decades now.
Some of the results where Experts demanded people be refered to as Euro on genealogies includes
Michel Hache,
Jeanne LeJeune,
Germain Doucet-(1641)
Pitre Families
Bourassa
Doiron
Blaquire
And many others.
But what has happened is very different once descendants began having dna/mtdna/ydna tests done. The nay-sayers have either had to change their thinking, or continue with their beliefs and continue to parade some of these lines as purely Euro, denying the scientific results, there by promoting false ethncities of genealogical ancestries. Something of which, these same "experts" not only deny doing, but demand proof of records consistently during genealogical research of lines that may especially affect their "Euro" lines. Bring them the proof, only instigates in some of these cases, raw agitation of backlash. If the person bringing the proof only has one test..and it appears with "native" results....Experts say.."It means nothing..must have more than one to prove it"... BUT if any test result comes back Euro for any name of interest, you can be assured that result will appear with Declaration of proof positive the line is Euro with flags flying, praises galore and vailliant praises of researchers involved!.. Again, showing the "do as I say" methodology, "not as I do". These instances of defiance to accept anything other than Euro/French only fuel the fire to prove these Experts wrong, creating more and more groups of projects collecting dna, mtdna, ydna data sets, to confirm the native, Irish, Scotch, Islander, and African, etc, that may have and did mix with the pure French original arrivals to Canada, and the US.
Heres a link to more insight into this from the "native" perspective.
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↑ Ydna results of Kevin Doucet-C3b (P39) subclade, [1]
First-hand information. Entered by Kat G at registration.
All Relationships were found thru the wikitree relationship finders- and are subject to change as new documents and verifications are found.
Source of this information "Certified Genealogist(s) in question above...are living, highly respected, and in their defense...."they were just creating books of Only Acadian Ancestries" as quoted thru another "well-respected" family genealogist.
Sources for me.. ummm i'm alive, so I suppose, I know me best :-)
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Hey Arora, just a quick note to show thanks and support for your input on Indigenous Affairs. I don't know if that term is acceptable to all, nor do I care, as long as it is not perceived as offensive. I have read some of your g2g post from the past and am glad to see you were not attacked or discredited by those who believe only they have insight and infinite wisdom or believe everything history has written from the "Victors" point of view. North America was occupied prior to 1607. Yet, a couple ships of Puritans lay claim as if North America was meant to be theirs. Although I love my country, I can't say I attach pride to how it was acquired. When I see support i.e recognition for veterans of Indian Wars, I have mixed emotions. I would agree Indian Wars and slavery have been misrepresented on purpose to support a narrative. Wishing you the best-your 20th cousin I believe-r2 Kevin
I added a few missing space characters to the Métis page while reading - thanks for this thoughtful history!
I was thinking of it because I'm giving a brief talk at this weekend's Wikiconference North America (no connection to WikiTree) about our suggestions that are driven by Wikidata. I noticed one of the other speakers, Benoit Rochon, is a beginning Atikamekw speaker who will talk (with Thérèse Ottawa) about Indigenous Languages and Knowledge in Wikimedia Projects. Thought it might be interesting for our First Peoples folks.
Thanks for your research and for adding a possible source and research note to the profile of Antoine Crevier St. Francois. I moved your research note from the Biography section to the Research Notes section of the profile, and added another possible source and associated research note for discussion. Can you please take a look and share your thoughts?
HI, Arora, a while ago you posted some sources on the Acadians Reliable Sources page. I've added them to the list of sources, though I'm not sure I have the details correct. Guessing a little as a non-French speaker. Could you review the page and see if you have any suggestions for improvements?
Thanks for the email with the offer of Pearl Harbor Memorial Photos! My son was there April 2018 and he found it quite moving. If you would like to allow use of these photos, I suggest that you make a space page and title it something like
Bombing of Pearl Harbor Memorial Photo Page. You can then add Mary Richardson to the page. Let me know when it is ready and I will ask her to put in a trusted list request. Then we can add them, with your approval wherever they fit and also link the page to the project so that all the photos can be viewed.
Let me know if you have any questions. I am so glad you got to go on this wonderful trip!
Thank you Arora for the resource of non-recovered navy personnel. I posted it on World War II on several pages in case someone is looking for a list ..
Thank you for the information about Perry Como's son, Ronald. I don't have the ability to edit Ronald's profile either but I send the information on to the profile manager.
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I was thinking of it because I'm giving a brief talk at this weekend's Wikiconference North America (no connection to WikiTree) about our suggestions that are driven by Wikidata. I noticed one of the other speakers, Benoit Rochon, is a beginning Atikamekw speaker who will talk (with Thérèse Ottawa) about Indigenous Languages and Knowledge in Wikimedia Projects. Thought it might be interesting for our First Peoples folks.
Thanks for your research and for adding a possible source and research note to the profile of Antoine Crevier St. Francois. I moved your research note from the Biography section to the Research Notes section of the profile, and added another possible source and associated research note for discussion. Can you please take a look and share your thoughts?
Thanks again for helping out with our ancestors!
Rick Peterson
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Acadians_Project_Reliable_Sources Thank you for providing those links.
Bombing of Pearl Harbor Memorial Photo Page. You can then add Mary Richardson to the page. Let me know when it is ready and I will ask her to put in a trusted list request. Then we can add them, with your approval wherever they fit and also link the page to the project so that all the photos can be viewed.
Let me know if you have any questions. I am so glad you got to go on this wonderful trip!
Paula
Mary
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