Andries (Gaeles) Gaelisz
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Andrijs (Gaeles) Gaelisz (abt. 1677 - abt. 1755)

Andrijs (Andries) Gaelisz formerly Gaeles aka Gelis, Geles
Born about in Veenwouden, Friesland, Nederlandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married about 1700 in Veenwouden, Dantumadeel, Friesland, Nederlandmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 78 in Veenwouden, Friesland, Nederlandmap [uncertain]
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Andries (Gaeles) Gaelisz is geboren in Friesland in 1677
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Biography

Name

Gaele Andriesz [1] [van der Walt] [1][2] / Andries Geales [3] (patronym might have also been spelt as Geles alternatively). [4] / Andries Gealeszoon [5] [van der Walt] [5][2]

Birth

Date: 1671 [1][5] / 1680 [3]
Place: Veenwouden [1][5] te Dantumandiel [1], Netherlands [1][5]

Churchmembers

Hinke Klaesis and Andries Gelis , churchmembers Veenwouden 1721
inschrijving lidmaten Datum: 1721 Plaats: Dantumadeel
Bijzonderheden: In 1721 lidmaat te Veenwouden Lidmaat: Hinke Klaesis
(Andries Gelis is mentioned here as well, but it's not mentioned they are husband an wife, so I assume they were not married ..yet) [6]

Occupation

Boer [farmer] in Veenwouden [1]: "Between 1698 and 1745 sometimes refered to as 'pachter' (renting) farmland. In 1698 he rented from the widower Thailling van Camstra. Before 1710 he rented with Claas Jelles some land belonging to the church." [4]

Events

"Gaele Lieuwes, geb. te Veenwouden circa 1630, boer, 2 Wonende: onder Veenwouden, bij de Wal, ovl. (hoogstens 68 jaar oud) te Veenwouden voor 1698, tr. (resp. ongeveer 40 en ongeveer 20 jaar oud) circa 1670 met Janke Andries, geb. circa 1650, ovl. te Veenwoudsterwal in jan 1917." [7] [should be 1701] [8]
"Andrys en Lieuwe Geles, dre requiranten volle broers, curatoren over Tabe in 18e, Trijntie in 14e, Pytter in 12e en Jochem Geles in 10e jaar, kinderen van Gele Lieuwes, overleden te Veenwouden, en Jancke Andrys, mede overleden te Veenwouden. Op dezefde datum wordt aangesteld als curator divisionis: Lieuwe Lieuwes, oom van vaderswegen." [9]
Uit dit huwelijk 6 kinderen [10]:
Andries Gaeles, geb. circa 1671, boer, 2 Wonende: Veenwouden. [10]
In 1698 boer te Veenwouden (gebr. stem 6, 1708 met Klaas Jelles op nr. 7). [10]
Lieuwe Gaeles, geb. te Veenwouden circa 1676, boer, 2 Wonende: 14-02-1706: Wouterswoude (met att[estatie].); 1721: Veenwouden, ovl. (hoogstens 55 jaar oud) voor 1731. [10]
Hij was in 1708 gebruiker van stem 15 te Wouterswoude. [10]
Tabe Gaeles], geb. te Veenwouden circa 1683, zie 684. [10]
Trijntje Gaeles, geb. circa 1687. [10]
Pieter Gaeles, geb. circa 1689. [10]
Jochum Gaeles, geb. circa 1691. [10]

Stemkohieren

Stemkohieren inschrijving (Akte)datum: 1698 Plaats: Dantumadeel
Bijzonderheden: Locatie: Veenwouden Stemnr.: 6 Aantal stemmen: 1
Gebruiker Andries Geles
Eigenaar; papist Jkh. Thialling Camstra weduwe en erven [11]

Volkstelling

Volkstelling 1744 inschrijving(Akte)datum: 1744 Plaats: Veenwouden
Vermeld Andries Gaeles Diversen: Aantal personen: 3
Bijzonderheden: Gemeente: Dantumadeel [12]

Death

Date: 1755 [1][5]
Place: Dantumadiel, Netherlands [1][5]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 WikiTree profile Van der Walt-93 created through the import of Ancestors_DippenaarAndre_noinfo.GED on Oct 23, 2012 by Andrew Dippenaar.
  2. 2.0 2.1 The surname van der Walt did not exist before the 1727 - As was custom in those days all over Northern Europe, there was a patronymic naming system in place. Andries being the [first] name and Gaelesz (in all it's spelling variations) being the name of the father or the child - the "z" at the end indicating son of. Van der Walt also does not refer to a forest or a wood (walt / wald / walde / wolde / woud) as genealogists and biographers mistakenly thought in the past. The name Veenewoude / Feanwâlden actually has nothing to do with wood or forest - it refers to the town that was the outcome of the administrative unification ["wouden"] of two previously separated villages on hills (terpen) in flat, peaty surroundings. [Source: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veenwouden (seen 17-11-2013)] On arrival at the settlement at the Cape, his son Gaele Andriesz had to state where he was from, and he must have said 'van Feanwâlden' . Moreover, just outside of Veenwouden there is a very small village called Feanwâldsterwâl where many of his ancestors and siblings were born, married and died. It is quite possible that the difficult pronouncement of this name was partly the reason that it was misunderstood when registering in the Cape and the surname was morphed into 'Van der Walt'. [Still needs to be researched]. Added by Philip van der Walt, 29 Nov 2017.
  3. 3.0 3.1 Added by Philip van der Walt 7 September 2013. Source: Die familie Van der Walt in Suid-Afrika. Saamgestel deur C.M. van der Walt, E.J. van der Walt, T.S.P. van der Walt. Geredigeer deur E.P. Jooste en I. Groesbeek. RGN, Pretoria, 1989. pp. 8-9.
  4. 4.0 4.1 Added by Philip van der Walt 8 September 2013. Source [lead]: Stamboom Hensen-Nanninga - currently a dead link (seen 4/10/2013).
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 WikiTree profile Van der Walt-836 created by Sophia (van der Walt) Swanepoel 6 January 2014. Source: Die Van der Walt Familie, Struik, 1986.
  6. Bronvermelding: Lidmatenregister Herv. Gemeente Veenwouden, archiefnummer 28, Collectie doop-, trouw-, lidmaten- en begraafboeken - Tresoar, inventarisnummer 161, aktenummer 80 Churchmembers 1721 Gemeente: Dantumadeel Periode: 1744-1755] entered by Bea Wijma 13 July, 2016.
  7. Added by Philip van der Walt 8 September 2013. Source [lead]: Schotanus genealogie - currently a dead link (seen: 6/11/2013).
  8. Correction - must be a typo - added by Philip van der Walt 7 November 2013.
  9. Added by Philip van der Walt 8 September 2013. Source [lead]: Schotanus genealogie - currently a dead link (seen: 6/11/2013).
    • Source: DAN G1 105 d.d. 08-04-1701; I16 327v (invent. a.v.)
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 10.7 10.8 Added by Philip van der Walt 8 September 2013. Source [lead]: Schotanus genealogie - currently a dead link (seen: 6/11/2013).
    • Source: Hof van Friesland civ. bijl. 690-16 (1741); crim. sent. 03-02-1700; DAN K13 346, 347; K14 26, 28 (1773, 5 erven); veel afstamm. in Not. archief, oud nr. 461, minuut 171 (1842).
  11. Alle Friezen Stemkohieren1698 Bronvermelding Cohieren van Oostergo, deel 2, archiefnummer 72, Stemkohieren 1698 - Tresoar, inventarisnummer F2687 Gemeente: Dantumadeel Periode: 1698 seen and added by Bea Wijma 21 July 2021
  12. Alle Friezen Volkstelling 1744 Bronvermelding Omschrijvinge van familiën in Friesland ("Volkstelling"); Oostergo, inventarisnummer 1628, blad 26, aktenummer 635 Periode: 1744 seen and added by Bea Wijma 21 July 2021




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Maaike Gosses who is also mentioned as churchmember in 1721 is interesting, because the curator..

Inschrijving nedergerechten Aktedatum: 09-06-1749 Bijzonderheden: Curator Tjeerd Claases, onder Bergum Requirant De fiscaal deezes Deele (verzoekt om curator over de boedel van Geele en Claas Andrijs naar de Indiens afwezig

apparently was a son of Klaas Tjeerds and Maaike Gosses

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma