Agnes (Gascoigne) Savile (abt. 1404 - 1482)

Born about 1404 in Harewood, Yorkshire, England

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Died 3 Jul 1482 at about age 78 in Yorkshire, England

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Supposedly "Lord Chief Justice" Gascoigne had a very late-flowering career, at which time he married a second wife and sowed a winter crop. He was therefore fathering children at the same time as his son, which creates confusion. (This account may not be correct.)

One of the daughters was an Agnes, who married a Constable and is said possibly to account for the name of Burton Agnes Hall. Opinions have differed as to which of the two Gascoignes was her father, though the elder now seems to be favoured.

There seems to be no indication that there were two Agneses. Nor does there seem to be any real evidence for an Alice.

John Savile was married to an Alice (not Agnes), but the statement that she was a Gascoigne doesn't seem to surface until the Visitation of 1563, which was a long time after the event, and a strange era in the Savile family. Two memorials to Alice created by her son William, a lawyer, fail to mention who her father was (who presumably William was himself named for).

All doubts will evaporate if Complete Peerage 2nd edition has anything to say, but my interest in the peerage doesn't run to that sort of price. Could somebody check please? They should be under Earls of Strafford and Marquesses of Hal(l)ifax.

Wife of Sir John Savile of Thornhill.

Executor of her husband's will, 1482. Veiled 1482 Jul 3. Memorial in Thornhill church. Also a dedication to "Dame Alice" by her son William, a lawyer, in the east window of the enlarged choir of Thornhill church. Always named as Alice.

No evidence found yet that she was a Gascoigne at all, let alone which branch.

Father said to be "Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe", but aren't they all. This is a knee-jerk placeholder for Gascoigne girls and can be disregarded in the absence of any specific information. Presumably she was of Gawthorpe or Lasingcroft. Or Sedbury. Or Someplace.

William is a name not known to have been used in the Savile family for a century and a half. You'd think, if lawyer William was descended from, and named for, the famous judge, he'd have worked in a mention of that.

Effects of a Lady Savile administered 1493/4 Jan, but it's not clear whether this refers to her, or her daughter Elizabeth (whose 2nd husband was Thomas Savile Jr of Hullen-edge), or both.

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• http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=24279608&pid=1591329761