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Thomas Gates (abt. 1590 - aft. 1627)

Thomas Gates
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1620 in James City, Virginia Colonymap
[children unknown]
Died after after about age 37 in James City, Colony of Virginiamap [uncertain]
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Biography

Jamestown Church Tower
Thomas Gates was a Jamestown colonist.

Thomas was born about 1590 in England. A death date of about 1660 was entered originally on this profile. No documentation has so far been found to support that date. It is presumed he died in James City County, where he was granted land when he arrived.

Few records have been found for Thomas and Elizabeth Gates. Thomas was known to be living in 1626/27 when he filed a lawsuit against Capt. John Martin for a debt of "800 waight of tobacco..."

A Court held the 25th of June, 1627, present:
Sir George Yeardley, Knot., Governor &c
Capt. Smith
Mr. Claybourne.
Wheras Capt. John Martin appeared at this Court to answere unto ye suite of Tho. Gates (5) in the sume of eight hundred waight of tobacco being due by a bond under his hand bearing date the one & twentiethe day of Aprill 1626, ... It is ordered that Mr Richard Kinsmell,... praise the goods & Chattells of the said Capt. Martin uppon their oathes that soe paim't may be made unto ye said Thomas Gates of the debt aforesaid.
footnote (5) Thomas Gates, who came in the Swan, 1609 and his wife Elizabeth, who came in the Warwick, 1620, lived in 1624-5 at Pace's Paines, opposite Jamestown.[1]

Marriage

Thomas married Elizabeth Unknown about 1620 in James City, Virginia Colony. Elizabeth, her parents' names unknown, arrived in Jamestown on the Warwick in 1620, a "Bride ship" for colonists. If they had children, no records have been located for them.

At the Muster of February 1624/25 at Paces Paines, James Citty, Thomas and Elizabeth his wife are the only ones listed in the family. No children are listed with them.

For more information on children, see the Comment posted on the profile of John Gates, supposed son of Thomas and Elizabeth. A query was sent to "the Jamestown Society about Thomas and Elizabeth Gates and why they are not listed on their website as heads of Families. They replied back that they have never gotten any proof that Thomas and Elizabeth Gates had any children." - posted Dec 12, 2013 by Kari Lemons.

Elizabeth Deol (Weedon) Gates (abt.1597-) is being removed as wife of Thomas Gates. She married Thomas Gate on 9 October 1617 in the Parish of Chesham, Co. Bucks.[2] She could not have been the Elizabeth Unknown who arrived in Jamestown, Virginia, in 1620 on the Warwick and married Thomas Gates there.

Birth/Death Dates

Thomas Gates' birth date is estimated based on the date of his arrival in James City, Virginia in 1610. A 1590 birth year would make him about 20 years old in 1610.

Thomas' death date is unknown. No record has been found as yet for Thomas after 1627 when he was living at Paces Paines, James Citty, Virginia Colony.[1]

Immigration to Virginia Colony

Thomas Gates and his wife arrived in Virginia prior to 16 February 1623/24. Thomas traveled from the Port of London on the Swan to Virginia, June - August 1610.[3] His wife arrived on the Warwick in 1620. They are listed in "Over the River" in "A List of Names; of the Living in Virginia, february the 16 1623."[4]

At the "Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia" taken 4 February 1624/25:

  • at Paces Paines, James Citty
    • Thomas Gates came in the Swan 1609/1610 [at about age 16-19][5]
    • Elizabeth his wife in the Warwick. 1620[4]

In the "Land of James Cittie, are many parcells of land, graunted to the inhabitant's by Pattent, and order of Courtt"

  • The Territory of Tappahanna ouer against James Cittie.
    • Thomas Gates -- 100 acres by Pattent[4]

Muster Search Results for February 1624/25 show this information for Thomas Gates. He possessed a house and 100 acres at Paces Paines, James Citty and owned:

  • Arms Records
    • Powder: 3 pound
    • Lead: 60 pound
    • Piece: 4
    • Armor: 3
    • Sword: 1
  • Food & Livestock Records
    • Corn: 40 bushel
    • Swine: 2[6]

Ancient Planter

Thomas Gates, a free man, having arrived in 1609 and lived in Virginia for more than three years, qualified as an "ancient planter."[7] In May 1625, he was credited with 100 acres in the Tappahanna area of James City, across the James River, in what later became Surry County.[8]

Research Notes

This Thomas Gates is not the Thomas Gates (abt.1565-1622) who was Governor of the Virginia Colony from 1610-1614. (Note: He would have been no more than about 17-20 years old in 1610, too young to be appointed Governor.) Governor Gates was born in Colyford, Colyton Parish, Devonshire, England about 1565. His exact date of birth and the identity of his parents are unknown. The name of his wife is also unknown; she died on the transatlantic voyage to the Colony. Governor Gates had known children: sons Thomas and Anthony, daughters Margaret, Mary and Elizabeth. He died in the Netherlands about 7 September 1622. His son, Thomas Gates, was given administration of his father's estate on 13 June 1623.

This Thomas Gates is also not the son of Peter Gates and Mary Josselyn. Their son Thomas was born in Norwich, Norfolk County, England, and lived and died there. Thomas did not travel to the Colonies. His son Stephen Gates was born in England and was the immigrant ancestor. He arrived in Hingham, Massachusetts, in the ship Diligent of Ipswich, England, 1638. His wife and two children were with him and they settled in Massachusetts, where he died in 1662. [9] This Thomas is being detached as son of Peter and Mary (Josselyn) Gates. (Strutton-11 17:29, 27 January 2021 (UTC))

This Thomas Gates is not the Thomas Gates who married Elizabeth Weedon in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England in 1617. He is also not the father of George Gates of Haddam, Connecticut.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography. Published Quarterly by The Virginia Historical Society; for the Year ending December 31, 1920. Vol. XXVIII. Richmond, VA.: House of the Society, 707 E. Franklin St. Reprinted with the permission of the original publisher: Kraus Reprint Corporation, New York, 1968. Page 99
  2. American Genealogist, Vol. 9, pp. 199-200 as cited on Elizabeth Gate (Weedon), ca 1597
  3. List of Passengers on the Swan 1609 Research and compilation by Anne Stevens, packrat-pro.com.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Hotten, John Camden, Editor. The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants' Religious Exiles; … and others who went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprinted Empire State Book Co., New York. Pages 179, 232, 270.
  5. Ancient Planters-Passengers of the Swan
  6. 1624/25 Muster Search Results
  7. Nugent, Nell Marion. Cavaliers and Pioneers. Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1666, Vol. I, Virginia State Library, Virginia Genealogical Society. Richmond, Press of the Dietz Print Co. 1934, page xxix.
  8. Kingsbury, Susan Myra. The records of the Virginia Company of London Government Printing Office, 1906-1935, p. 4:555
  9. Genealogical & Family History of Northern, NY. William Richard Cutter, A. M., Editorial Supervisor. New York: Lewis Historical Publishing Company, 1910. Online Edition by Holice, Deb & Pam. Pages 336-343

See also:

  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 13 November 2020), memorial page for Thomas Gates (20 Aug 1593–unknown), Find A Grave: Memorial #48572611, ; Maintained by Becky G (contributor 47012927) Unknown. Note: No headstone or sources cited for this information. Only a date of birth is listed, no date of death is listed. This Memorial is for a different Thomas Gates, probably intended to be for one of the Gates families of Connecticut.




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John Gates and John Gates were proposed as a merge and two days ago set as an unmerged match due to questions about conflicts. There is no evidence that John Gates was a son of Thomas Gates and Elizabeth Weedon. No record has been found proving they had any children. No record has been found for the presence of a John Gates in Virginia prior to 1636 in Elizabeth City. If John Gates is removed as their son, which I am going to do, possibly he can be merged with the other John Gates.
George Gates is not the son of Thomas Gates and Elizabeth Weedon. He was born in England, 1634, and settled in Haddam, CT. There apparently are no confirmed records for his parents' names. Thomas and Elizabeth Gates were married in Jamestown, Virginia in 1620 and had no connection to the Gates families of Connecticut. George Gates is being removed as son of Thomas and Elizabeth Gates.

Edit: Simon Gates (1648-) is also not the son of Thomas Gates and Elizabeth Weedon. He was born in 1648 in Buckinghamshire, England. Thomas and Elizabeth married about 1620 in Virginia and had no son born almost 30 years later in England. He has been removed as their son.

Edit: John Gates (1621-) is again not the son of Thomas Gates and Elizabeth Weedon. He may be the same as John Gates (1621-abt.1713). There is no evidence that Thomas and Elizabeth Gates had any children. The first evidence of John Gates in Virginia is in 1636 in Elizabeth City. He is being removed as son of Thomas and Elizabeth.

This profile and some related family profiles are under review for editing and sourcing on behalf of the US Southern Colonies Project. Anyone having additional sources/documentation for this family is asked to add them to the appropriate profile.
just ran across a passenger list for Warwick (Category:Warwick, sailed 1620) that has Elizabeth (Gates in the 1624/5 muster)...
Gates, Elizabeth, 1620 voyage, wife of Thomas on the Swan.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Under research notes, it says that Stephen, the emigrant ancestor, was the son of Thomas, but it is believed that he was the son of Eustace, not Thomas.
posted by Cathy (Kies) Bennett
Governor Thomas Gates was b 1585, Cotyldon, Englland

This man and wife are on my Heritage and Jamestown. He was not the Govenor. Just a person named Thomas Gates according to the Jamestown. muster of 1624 shows the man's name is George Gates....

posted by Mary Richardson
This profile does not have historical documentation support. Dates, locations and children do not match any history of this Governor I have found, also where did they obtain the wife's information (unsourced). All that I can find in viable documents when it comes the Childrens mother is " whose mother (name unknown) had died on the transatlantic voyage"

Encyclopedia Virginia

Also none of the children listed on this profile are listed as son's of Governor Gates and 2 of them were born long after he passed.

I believe that if this Thomas Gates dates and locations, spouse and children are correct for him, then this is not the same profile as that of Governor Thomas Gates and needs to be corrected and sources established to verify the profile information.

posted by Cheryl (Stone) Caudill
Governor Gates born 1585 died in the Netherlands sometime before September 7, 1622. Sir Dudley Carleton was quoted, saying that Gates was "an ancient honest gentleman of this nation." Gates had five children at his death, Thomas, Anthony, Margaret, Mary, and Elizabeth. Thomas Gates (governor)

On June 2, Gates departed for Virginia aboard the flagship Sea Venture (or Sea Adventure), one of nine ships carrying a total of about 500 settlers. September 7, 1622 - Sir Dudley Carleton writes a letter informing an English official of the death, in the Netherlands, of Sir Thomas Gates, describing him as "an ancient honest gentlemen of this nation." Sir Thomas Gates

posted by Cheryl (Stone) Caudill
Gates-1625 and Gates-375 appear to represent the same person because: dates and places are the same
posted by Robin Lee

Rejected matches › Thomas Gates (abt.1565-1622)