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John Gilbert (abt. 1754 - bef. 1820)

John Gilbert
Born about in Duplin, North Carolinamap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 65 in Sampson, North Carolina, United Statesmap [uncertain]
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Contents

Biography

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John Gilbert was a North Carolina colonist.

Disputed Origins

Note: Unsourced parents, previously attached as John Gilbert and Sarah Baldwin have been detached. The only reference to this John Gilbert's father is a recapitulation of him being a son of John Gilbert, and that his grandfather was also named John Gilbert; and that in 1829 John Gilbert's household items were divided between daughter Sally Sarah (Gilbert) Tew, and sons John Gilbert and Martin Gilbert.[citation needed][1]

John Gilbert was born circa 1754.[citation needed]

Land Grants

  • John Gilbert Sr: 6 May 1760 200 acres, On Great Cohery (sic) Coharie Creek beginning at a white oak, File 730[2]
  • John Gilbert Sr: 6 May 1760 200 acres, On Great Cohery (sic) Coharie Creek beginning at a white oak, File 730[3]
  • John Gilbert: 10 Nov 1784 (entered 30 Jan 1783), 150 acres, West side of Great Cohera (sic) Coharie Creek, File 2461[4]

The following are unknown as to whether it is this John Gilbert or his son, John Gilbert:

  • 14 Dec 1809 (entered 1 Sep 1808) - File 956/Grant 1151: 50.75 acres joining his own and Allen Jackson's lines"[5]
  • 14 Dec 1808 (entered 9 Feb 1808) - File 1211: 35.50 acres joining his own lines[6]

Residence from Census Records

  • 1790 - Sampson County[7]
  • 1800 - Fayetteville, Sampson County[8]

An analysis of 1810 Sampson County for John Gilbert shows on the same page both he and his son. John Gilbert Sen. is shown on Line 8, with a male and female 45 & Over, one son aged 16-25 years, and no other household members present.

For his son: John Gilbert his son has household Line 4 - with a male and female aged 16-25 years present, and one son under 10 years of age. [9]

Military Service North Carolina

27 Jul 1780; "Corporal in Capt Samuel Holden's Co Col Ebenezer Thayer's (Suffolk Co) Regt, engaged 27 July 1780; discharged 31 October 1780. Service 3 months 7 days, travel included; company raised to reinforce Continental Army for 3 months."[10][11]

1 Aug 1783: Military Service North Carolina.[12]

1 May 1792: Military Service North Carolina.[13]

He died before 1820, on the basis of his not appearing in the 1820 census.


Research Notes

No match at SAR Patriot Search.

Sources

  1. Soft source. Walker, W Ray. 22 Oct 2001. Daniel Tew/Sally Gilbert Death Date? Sampson Co. NC Genealogy.com/forum. Describes 1829 household division/distribution, two ancestral generations, one descendant generation.
  2. Recorded in Land Patent Book 16, p. 326, Duplin County Grant. State Grant issued by State of North Carolina, 1777 to 1960: Virtual Shuck by NC Land Grant Images and Data. MARS: 12.14.57.670.
  3. Recorded in Land Patent Book 18, p. 390, Duplin County Grant. State Grant issued by State of North Carolina, 1777 to 1960: Virtual Shuck by NC Land Grant Images and Data. MARS: 12.14.57.1004.
  4. Recorded in Land Patent Book 55, p. 189, Duplin County Grant #714. State Grant issued by State of North Carolina, 1777 to 1960: Virtual Shuck by NC Land Grant Images and Data. MARS: 12.14.57.2401.
  5. Recorded in Land Patent Book 113, p. 159, Sampson County Grant. State Grant issued by State of North Carolina, 1777 to 1960: Virtual Shuck by NC Land Grant Images and Data. Entry 460. MARS: 12.14.109.938.
  6. Recorded in Land Patent Book 124, p. 170, Sampson County Grant. State Grant issued by State of North Carolina, 1777 to 1960: Virtual Shuck by NC Land Grant Images and Data. Entry 533. MARS: 12.14.109.1193.
  7. 1790 United States Federal Census: John Gilbert, Residence: Sampson, North Carolina, United States. See also: "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch: accessed 16 Nov 2018, John Gilbert, Sampson, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 133, NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington DC: National Archives and Records Administration), roll 7; FHL microfilm 568,147.
  8. "United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch: accessed 22 Feb 2023, John Gilbert, Fayetteville, Sampson, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 500, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington DC: National Archives and Records Administration), roll 32; FHL microfilm 337,908.
  9. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch: accessed 22 Feb 2023, John Gilbert & John Gilbert Sen., Sampson, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 494, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington DC: National Archives and Records Administration), roll 42; FHL microfilm 337,915, Lines 4 and 8.
  10. North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782, Massachusetts, vol 6, Fracer, Joseph-Gypson, Henry "North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782," database with images, FamilySearch: accessed 8 Oct 2022, John Gilbert, 01 May 1792; citing North Carolina, United States, State Archives of North Carolina, Raleigh.
  11. "United States Rosters of Revolutionary War Soldiers and Sailors, 1775-1783", database with images, FamilySearch: 18 Mar 2018, John Gilbert, 1780.
  12. "North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782," database with images, FamilySearch: accessed 16 Nov 2018, John Gilbert, 01 Aug 1783; citing North Carolina, United States, State Archives of North Carolina, Raleigh.
  13. "North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782," database with images, FamilySearch: accessed 16 Nov 2018, John Gilbert, 01 May 1792; citing North Carolina, United States, State Archives of North Carolina, Raleigh.




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Gilbert-18401 and Gilbert-10457 do not represent the same person because: further search made this improbable
posted by William Gilbert
What I have are index records on the non-subscriber side of Ancestry.com, so important details are missing, but. . .Sarah Baldwin does have records - including a marriage record to John Gilbert - in:
  1. the US Quaker Meeting (Records 1681-1935 indexed by Ancestry.com), and
  2. (Bucks) Pennsylvania and New Jersey, Church and Town Records, 1669-2013; (some other "matches"=?)
however, the Sarah Baldwin of interest (ca. 1734-1780) has parents suggested as being John Baldwin (ca. 1697-1771) and Sarah Gilbert (of all surnames) ca. 1700-1755. I have not searched for that pair, yet. I might have some leads on them, too; and, have not scoured FamilySearch for either generation of Sarah. It's probably worth a look, as Baldwins intersect with a lot of families. Let me know if you need help with it.
posted by Porter Fann
Is https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Baldwin-4844 John's mother as her profile has"Gilbert Family Tree-Ancestry.com" as the only entry
posted by Chris Gilbert