Lawrence Gilbert
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Lawrence Gilbert

Lawrence Gilbert
Born 1920s.
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Brother of and [private sister (1920s - unknown)]
Father of
Died 1990s.
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A veteran of U.S. Army Air Force, enlisted 06 May 1943, Cincinnati, Ohio,[1]
Pvt. Lawrence Gilbert served in the United States Army Air Forces in World War II
Service started: 06 May 1943
Unit(s):
Service ended: 1945

Born 6 June 1921 in Harlan County Kentucky[2], died 26 Mar 1994 Harlan, KY [3]buried at Ball Cemetery, Dartmont (Evarts), Harlan, KY

Lawrence was an entrepreneurial Master Carpenter contractor most of his career.

Married[4] Golda Edna Jones dau of Ora Francis Jones and Lou Maude Carr

Children of Edna (nee Jones) and Lawrence Gilbert

  1. Doloris Ann Gilbert (born 9 Feb died 27 Feb 1943 (infancy)) buried 28 Feb 1943 at Gilbert Cemetery, Sunshine Community, Harlan, KY[5]
  2. E.... (living)
  3. Wm. Dan Gilbert m. Brenda S. Perkins
  4. N.... (living)
  5. S.... (living)
  6. Carrie S. Gilbert (14 Sep 1954 Harlan Co., Kentucky-deceased 25 May 2011 North Carolina). m.1. William Chalmer Stevens, m.2. Michael Huff, m.3. Alonzo L.B. Smith, m.4 Danny Wynn,[6]
  7. R.... living)
  8. Judy Carol Gilbert Keith (deceased)
  9. B.... (living)
  10. A.... (living)
  11. Dallas Ray Gilbert (09 Dec 1962-09 Dec 1962 Harlan, KY-deceased Harlan, KY) US Marine veteran[7]
  12. L.... (living)

Census

1940 Kitts, Harlan, Kentucky [8]

  • James Gilbert 41 Head
  • Nancy Gilbert 39 Wife
  1. Lawrence Gilbert 18 Son
  2. Delphia Gilbert 12 Daughter
  3. Elmer Gilbert 8 Son
  • Residence (1930) , Frozen, Harlan, Kentucky,
  • Residence (1935), (1940) Magisterial District 1, Harlan, Kentucky,

Sources

  1. "United States World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMFF-YWQ : 5 December 2014), Lawrence Gilbert, enlisted 06 May 1943, Cincinnati, Ohio, United States; citing "Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, ca. 1938-1946," database, The National Archives: Access to Archival Databases (AAD) (http://aad.archives.gov : National Archives and Records Administration, 2002); NARA NAID 1263923, National Archives at College Park, Maryland.
  2. "Kentucky, Vital Record Indexes, 1911-1999," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKHJ-C71X : 11 February 2018), Lawrence Gilbert, 1921; citing Birth, Harlan, Kentucky, United States, Kentucky Department for Libraries and Archives, Frankfort.
  3. "United States Social Security Death Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J1FP-CMR : 9 January 2021), Lawrence Gilbert, 26 Mar 1994; citing U.S. Social Security Administration, Death Master File, database (Alexandria, Virginia: National Technical Information Service, ongoing).
  4. "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2D6-P1FS : 22 July 2021), Ora Jones in entry for Lawrence Gilbert and Edna Jones, 1 Jun 1940; citing Marriage, Harlan, Harlan, Kentucky, United States, various county clerks and county courts, Kentucky; FHL microfilm 1,876,483.
  5. "Kentucky Death Records, 1911-1967," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NSKH-TXF : 2 March 2021), Lawrence Gilbert in entry for Deloris Ann Gilbert, 1943; citing Death, Harlan, Harlan, Kentucky, United States, certificate , Office of Vital Statistics, Frankfort; FHL microfilm 1,913,443.
  6. "United States, GenealogyBank Obituaries, Births, and Marriages 1980-2014," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK5W-7CJC : accessed 11 November 2022), Lawrence Gilbert in entry for Ms Carrie Gilbert Wynn, Kentucky, United States, 26 May 2011; from "Recent Newspaper Obituaries (1977 - Today)," database, GenealogyBank.com (http://www.genealogybank.com : 2014); citing Harlan Daily Enterprise, The, born-digital text.
  7. "United States, GenealogyBank Obituaries, Births, and Marriages 1980-2014," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKLF-FWQM : accessed 11 November 2022), Lawrence Gilbert in entry for Dallas Ray Gilbert, Kentucky, United States, 27 Mar 2014; from "Recent Newspaper Obituaries (1977 - Today)," database, GenealogyBank.com (http://www.genealogybank.com : 2014); citing Harlan Daily Enterprise, The, born-digital text.
  8. Census 1940 Kitts, Harlan, Kentuckyhttps://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/52171188:2442?_phsrc=nOd21&_phstart=successSource&gsln=gilbert&ml_rpos=55&queryId=3265b08c40e853b2cf8277a164c0aa36
  • Census "United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XM6R-G28 : accessed 11 November 2022), Lawerence Gilbert in household of Jim Gilbert, Frozen, Harlan, Kentucky, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 9, sheet 7A, line 42, family 123, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 749; FHL microfilm 2,340,484.
  • personal knowledge of son Wm Dan Gilbert-5507

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Please change the status indicator of Lawrence's relationship to his father to "confident" until a proper DNA source citation has been added to document a paternal "confirmed with DNA" paternal relationship.

WikiTree's DNA Confirmation Citation Maker app is highly recommended for creating and/or validating DNA confirmation source citations. It produces great citations, is easy to use (copy/paste) and there are how-to videos linked from that page.

Thank you,

John Kingman, a DNA Project Coordinator

posted by John Kingman
I do not propose to make a change. I personally tested DNA 67 markers. Lawrence is my father. It is ridiculous to believe he is not the son of his father. I am 80 years old, I was physically present with my father and grandfather for much of their life.
posted by William Gilbert
William, parentage is not the issue, it is the incomplete paternal DNA confirmation citation that is the problem. WikiTree has certain requirements for a proper citation, which are elaborated in the Help for DNA Confirmation.

Give the DNA Confirmation Citation Maker app a try. I'm also 80 and I find it very helpful.

John

posted by John Kingman
Thank you for adding a DNA confirmation statement. Unfortunately it does not provide sufficient information to mark his paternal relationship 'confirmed with DNA'. You have entered information about only one yDNA test, but it takes at least two matching DNA tests to confirm any relationships. Please read these instructions: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Y-Chromosome_DNA_Confirmation

Please change Henry's relationship to his father to 'confident'. Please do not change it back to 'confirmed with DNA' until you have added a statement that provides information about the two matching tests and the Most Recent Common Ancestor of the two test takers.

Please let me know if you don't understand, or if I can help. Thanks!

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson