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Robert Gilbert (abt. 1459 - aft. 1532)

Robert Gilbert
Born about in Somerset, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 73 in Somerset, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Biography

This profile is part of the Gilbert Name Study.

Birth year is based on his age being "40 and more" in 1502 at the time of the inquisition post mortem of his mother and aged 40 in the 1499 inquisition post mortem of his father.

Shown in the Visitations of the County of Somerset[1] in the "Gilbert of Whitcombe in Corton Denham, Somerset" Pedigree as the son of John Gilbert and Jane Hake with 2 wives named as Elizabeth Wadham and Maragert Baumfield, and son George Gilbert.

Shown in the Visitation of Devon as above but with further children John Gilbert (married to Christian Beckett), Elizabeth (married to John Fitzjames [see son Anthony Gilbert's will]), Christian (married to John Pyke) and Alice (married to John Porter).[2]

The son John may be John Gilbert of West Camel

Named with his wife Margaret in his father John Gilbert's Will dated 20 Apr 1499 and proved 16 Nov 1499.[3]

1504: Letters Patent WORSLEY OF APPULDURCOMBE.TITLE DEEDS.MANOR OF APPULDURCOMBE:[4]

  • John Gilbert esq., Joan his wife and Robert their son.
  • Two pastures called Southale Wabarnys held by will of Edward Wayte, gent., and Geofrey Gryme and Alice his wife.

4 July 1517: To ROB. GILBERT of Whitcombe, Somers.:[5]

Lease for 21 years of Charleton Camvyle super Horethowdon, in Charleton, Somers., lately held by Ric. Palmer; with a toft called le Estbro ..., at an annual rent of 14l. 14s. 8d. Del. Westm., 5 July 9 Hen. VIII. Pat. 9 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 10.

Dec 1532: Grants:[6]

Thos. Dyer, one of the stewards of the King's chamber. Lease of the farm called Charleton Camvyle upon Horethowdon, Somers., and lands, &c. thereto belonging, in the manor or lordship of Charleton, which farm was late in the tenure of Ric. Palmer, and now of Rob. Gilbert of Whitcombe, Somers., and a toft there called "le Estbroke;" with reservations; for 40 years from the death of the said Rob. Gilbert, or from the expiration of his 21 years' lease of the premises which he holds by patent 4 July 9 Hen. VIII., at the annual rent of 14l. 14s. 8d.; viz., for the farm, 8l. 13s. 4d.; for the toft, 8s., and 5l. 13s. 4d. of increase. Windsor, 1 Sept. 24 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 5 Dec.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 30.

Research Notes

Between 1558 and 1603: Gilbert v Cox:[7]

Plaintiffs: George Gilbert esq.
Defendants: John Cox of Dorchester, Elizabeth Cox, John Cox, executors of the will of Robert Cox deceased.
Subject: To discover the contents of a lease and to stay waste. Lands called Crothorne, containing 80 acres in Corten Denham, Somerset [Corton Denham], formerly the estate of Robert Gilbert esq deceased, plaintiff's grandfather and by him in the 24th or 25th Henry VIII [ ie around 1533/4] demised for 60 years to John Coxe deceased.

Sources

  1. The visitations of the county of Somerset, in the years 1531 and 1573, together with additional pedigrees, chiefly from the visitation of 1591
  2. The visitation of the county of Devon in the year 1564 : with additions
  3. Will of John Gilberte or Gilbert of Withycombe, Somerset held at the National Archves, Kew Ref PROB 11/12/16 (image on Ancestry.co.uk)
  4. Reference: JER/WA/2/7 held by the Isle of Wight Record Office
  5. 'Henry VIII: July 1517, 1-10', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 2, 1515-1518, ed. J S Brewer (London, 1864), pp. 1092-1102. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol2/pp1092-1102 [accessed 11 May 2021].
  6. "Henry VIII: December 1532, 16-31." Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532. Ed. James Gairdner. London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1880. 681-700. British History Online. Web. 13 May 2021. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol5/pp681-700.
  7. Gilbert v Cox Ref C 2/Eliz/G3/42 at the National Archives




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Grants in December 1532.

1. Thos. Dyer, one of the stewards of the King's chamber. Lease of the farm called Charleton Camvyle upon Horethowdon, Somers., and lands, &c. thereto belonging, in the manor or lordship of Charleton, which farm was late in the tenure of Ric. Palmer, and now of Rob. Gilbert of Whitcombe, Somers., and a toft there called "le Estbroke;" with reservations; for 40 years from the death of the said Rob. Gilbert, or from the expiration of his 21 years' lease of the premises which he holds by patent 4 July 9 Hen. VIII., at the annual rent of 14l. 14s. 8d.; viz., for the farm, 8l. 13s. 4d.; for the toft, 8s., and 5l. 13s. 4d. of increase. Windsor, 1 Sept. 24 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 5 Dec.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 30.<ref>"Henry VIII: December 1532, 16-31." Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532. Ed. James Gairdner. London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1880. 681-700. British History Online. Web. 13 May 2021. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol5/pp681-700.</ref>

It sounds from this source that Robert, to whom the lease was granted in 1517, was still alive in 1532.

posted by Maria Castro
4 July 1517.

S. B. 3436. To ROB. GILBERT of Whitcombe, Somers.

Lease for 21 years of Charleton Camvyle super Horethowdon, in Charleton, Somers., lately held by Ric. Palmer; with a toft called le Estbro ..., at an annual rent of 14l. 14s. 8d. Del. Westm., 5 July 9 Hen. VIII. Pat. 9 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 10.<ref>'Henry VIII: July 1517, 1-10', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 2, 1515-1518, ed. J S Brewer (London, 1864), pp. 1092-1102. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol2/pp1092-1102 [accessed 11 May 2021].</ref>

posted by Maria Castro