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Edward Gilman II (1555 - 1613)

Edward Gilman II aka Gyllman
Born in Caston, Norfolk, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1580 in Caston, Norfolk, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died in Caston, Norfolk, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 31 May 2009
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Relationship to Abraham Lincoln

There is NO proof to date that this family is the family of Bridget Gilman, and for that reason, I have not tied Abraham Lincoln to this profile through a category. We know that Bridget's father was Edward, but, we have no proof that it was this Edward, nor that her mother was Mary Hawes. I have marked Bridget Gilman's profile in that manner. Lee-5956 19:17, 18 December 2015 (EST) US Presidents Project Lead


Edward Gilman ... [1]

Evidence for the wife's name of Mary Hawes is Gary Boyd Robert's Notable Kin. Whether he cites a source I do not yet know. There seems to be no other solid evidence for the name.

Evidence for the present Edward instead of Robert as the father of Edward (the Emigrant) Gilman is as follows (brackets ([]) by BKM):

[Edward (1557)] was the father of Edward the Emigrant (7), instead of Robert, his brother, as stated in the records of Samuel Hayhoe Le Neve Gilman. The late Charles E. Banks, Genealogist, discovered a deposition made by Edward the Emigrant in 1637 at the age of 50, shortly before he left England, referring to his father as Edward. An incomplete list of children is furnished by Mr. Torrey, Genealogist.[2]

Edward Gilman of Hingham, son of Edward and Rose (Rysse) Gilman of Caston[3], was born 22 June 1555.[citation needed] and baptized on 20 April 1557 in Caston, Norfolk, England[3]. In 1581[citation needed], he married but it appears his wife's name has been lost from official records[3]. Edward died in 1613 in Hingham, England, where he had moved earlier with his brother Robert.

Edward's children were:

  1. Bridget born c1582, married Edward LINCOLN: "daughter" poss. Bridget[4]
  2. Edward (known as “the Emigrant") born 1585, married Mary CLARK:[3][4]
  3. John married Ann GUERNEY: [3][4]
  4. Mary born 1599, married Nicholas JACOB:[3][4]
  5. Margaret baptized 1 August 1602 in Hingham, England[3][4]
  6. Sarah born 4 August 1603 in Hingham, England.[3]. bapt Dec 4 1608[4]
Another son is listed in "Massachusetts and Maine Families in the Ancestry of Walter Goodwin Davis."
  • Robert son of Edward Gylmmynne of Hingham married May 14, 1611 Rose Hawes, he married (2) widow, Mary Bruen[4]

Several of Edward's descendants emigrated from England to America.


  1. Entered by Daniel Hamilton, Nov 29, 2011
  2. Ames, 1950, p. 36.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 Torrey, Clarence Almon. "English Origin of Edward Gilman." The American Genealogist 11:137" Citing work by Charles Edward Banks, so there is an earlier reference
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 4.6 Massachusetts and Maine Families in the Ancestry of Walter Goodwin Davis. Vol. II. Gardner-Moses. "Gilmans of Exeter".

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This appears to be the book that some are using and it totally changes the picture as Edward is not the son of Edward and Rose,...
posted by Robin Lee
I presume no one here has been able to find Nadine Gilman's two thick books? At some point, if people are going to keep adding Mary Hawes as wife to Edward, it will be nice if they would cite a source.
posted by BK McDonald
Recent changes to this profile show Mary Hawes (who was married to Edward's brother, Robert [Gilman-29]) as Edward's wife. From everything I have read Edward's wife's last name at birth is not known. In any case it was quite a marriage lasting close to 20 years after both died,

In addition, new duplicate profiles of Robert Gilman and Mary (Hawes) Gilman's sons have been added as children of Edward Gilman.

posted by Bob Tonsmeire
profile managers would you consider changing the marriage date. If Edward was baptized in 1557, I don't see him getting married 8 years later. I would guess the marriage would be closer to the birth of their first child.
Edward is the 6th Great Grandfather of President Abraham Lincoln and my 10th Great Grandpa, making Lincoln my 7th cousin 4x removed with 222 common ancestors. Is it possible to add a Direct Ancestor badge to Edward for Abe Lincoln?
posted by Renee Malloy Esq
BK, if you're following the work I've been doing trying to clear up the confusion about the two Mary Gilmans who emigrated to New England in 1633 and 1638 (one a sister the other a daughter of Edward the immigrant), you may have seen on G2G that the generations above Edward are all messed up. He's currently linked as son of Robert when as you know he should be son of this Edward. (I'm certain this resulted from incorrect merges.)

I'm terrified to try to fix this without seeing a more definitive genealogy of the Gilmans. And that seems to be the 1950 book you have. I don't want to make matters worse. Can you help? Thanks.

posted by Jillaine Smith
There are a couple of merge requests for Robert Gilman. This would seem to be over the idea that his wife was Mary Hawes. I do not know of Gary Boyd Roberts' source for this woman as the wife of Edward Gilman. To me, that source should be investigated before any merges are made.
posted by BK McDonald

Unmerged matches › Robert Gilman (bef.1559-1631)

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