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Marie Godare (abt. 1641 - 1684)

Marie Godare aka Godard, Godart, Girou
Born about in Mortagne, Perche, Francemap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 29 Sep 1654 in Beauport, Canada, Nouvelle-Francemap
Descendants descendants
Died in Beauport, Canada, Nouvelle-Francemap
Profile last modified | Created 18 Mar 2016
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Filles à marier
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Marie Godare a des origines françaises.
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Marie Godare migrated from France to New France.
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Drapeau identifiant les profils du Canada, Nouvelle-France
Marie Godare a vécu
au Canada, Nouvelle-France.

Biographie

Marie Godard (1641 - 1684), aussi connue sous le nom de Godart. Godare.

Naissance: En 1641. elle naît à Mortagne, Perche, France.

Mariage: Le 29 septembre 1654, en la maison du Sieur Giffar, Beauport, Canada, Nouvelle-France, Marie Godare âgée d'environ 16 ans' épouse Toussaint Girou âgé de 21ans, fils de Marguerite Quilleron et de Jean Giroux. [1] en présence de témoins cognus, le Sieur Giffar, le Sieur Denis le fils. Célébrant Paul Ragueneau, Compagnie de Jésus. Acte de mariage rédigé à la paroisse Notre-Dame-de-Québec.

Enfants connus / Known children: Toussaint Giroux - Marie Godard:

  1. Charles: 30.04.1655 Québec S: 07.05.1655 Québec
  2. Raphaël: 21.07.1656 Québec S: 10.02.1715 Beauport
  3. Charles: 10.08.1658 Québec S: 23.12.1708 Beauport
  4. Toussaint: 24.04.1660 Québec S: 10.11.1663 Québec
  5. Michel: 13.06.1661 Québec S: 07.08.1715 Beauport
  6. Toussaint: 17.10.1663 Québec S: 10.11.1663 Québec
  7. Jean: 26.10.1664 Québec S: 16.01.17633 Beauport
  8. Marie: 28.12.1666 Québec S: 09.11.1711 Hôtel-Dieu Québec
  9. Jean-Baptiste: 16.02.1668 Québec
  10. Marie-Madeleine : 19.12.1669 Québec S: 04.05.1751 Charlesbourg
  11. Toussaint: 01.03.1672 Québec S: 24.04.1750 Beauport
  12. Monique: Ca 1679 S: 01.03.1727 Hôtel-Dieu de Québec

Marie Godard et Toussaint Giroux sont domestiques à la Seigneurie de Beauport; Ils travaillent pour Robert Giffard, seigneur de Beauport.

Recensement de 1666: Toussaint Girou, 30, tisserand en toile ; Marie Godard, 25, sa femme ; Raphaël, 10 ; Charles, 8 ; Michel, 6 ; Jean, 15 mois. Ils résident à Beauport Canada.

Recensement de 1667: Toussaint Giraux, 34 ; Marie Godart, sa femme, 28 ; Raphaël, 11 ; Charles, 9 ; Michel, 5 ; Jean, 2 ; Marie, 1 ; Jacques Savaria, 21 ; 2 bestiaux, 16 arpents en valeur; ils résident aux côtes de Beauport, Canada.

Recensement de 1681: Toussaint Girou 52 ; Marie Godart, sa femme, 52 ; enfants : Raphaël 25, Charles 23, Michel 22, Jean 17, Marie 14, Madelaine 12, Toussaint 10, Monique 2 ; 3 fusils ; 11 bêtes à cornes ; 1 cavale ; 53 arpents en valeur; ils résident à la seigneurie de Beauport, Canada.

Décès: Le 21 novembre 1684, âgée de 50 ans selon l'acte de sépulture, Marie Godard décède et est inhumée le 22 novembre 1684 à Beauport, Canada. [2]

Le 30 octobre 1685, inventaire de ses biens est fait .

Note de recherche / Research note La prétention de «fille à marier» est contestée. Bien que citée comme telle, [3] son nom n’apparaît pas dans une autre.[4]

La plus récente mise à jour «Les émigrants percherons partis en Nouvelle-France aux XVIIe et XVIIIe siècles (2019)» [1]

D'autres prétendent qu'elle serait autochtonne - Algonquine. [5]

Sources

  1. Family Search - Mariage / Marriage - Toussainct Girou - Marie Godare.
  2. Family Search - Sépulture / Burial - Marie Godard âgée de 50 ans, femme de Toussaint Giroux.
  3. Godard Marie - migration.
  4. A Point in history.
  5. https://sglevis.genealogie.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/SGLevisV8N2R0.pdf Marie Godard, une autochtone? Page 7

Voir aussi / Also see

  • Lesperance, Jerry (December 2002). Le Perche, Vermont French-Canadian Genealogical Society
  • Internet - Recensement de 1666 en Nouvelle-France, référant au tome IV, chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@fmed.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998.
  • Internet - Recensement de 1681 en Nouvelle-France, référant au chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@gel.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998.
  • Internet - Recensement de 1667 en Nouvelle-France, référant au tome IV, chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@fmed.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998.


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Denys Delage mentions the name of Marie Olivier (Manitouabeouich) Sylvestre, commenting the marriage of her daughter but forgetting to mention that the marriage of Marie Olivier to Martin Prévost also took place in the Notre-Dame-de-Québec parish (1644) and that her parents were mentioned in the act. [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-F99N-S?i=131&wc=9RLX-4WG%3A17585101%2C19508101%2C19508102%3Fcc%3D1321742&cc=1321742 Mariage - right image, last record and top left image 133. André Garand aurait peut-être dû tenir compte de ce fait, parmi tant d'autres d'ailleurs, Beaucoup d'opinions discutables.
posted by Gaston Tardif
I was just looking at the information in Image 1 above, the register for some of the marriages celebrated in 1654. For the first time, I read through all of them, then the two pages before and two pages after. Very strange that of the 27 marriages registered (one was illegible), Toussaint’s and Marie’s is the only one where the parents are not named.
posted by André Courcelles
indeed, the record is written by Hiérosme (Jérome) Lallemant, but he did not celebrate the marriage, another priest did it in a private house. Most likely that priest did not ask for or record the parents of the couple, it happens fairly regularly in early records, the royal ordinance about these records was more or less enforced from what I have seen. No way at this late date to ascertain why the parents' names were omitted.
posted by Danielle Liard
I did state in my post of 19 March that the link to the Levis GS did not offer proof but it is an interesting hypothesis. In any event, thank you for responding to my comments.
posted by André Courcelles
the marriage just before hers in records of Notre-Dame de Québec (where all these were recorded) was also done in Robert Giffard's house. The Giroux-Godard marriage was done by Paul Ragueneau, the other also, but the writing is all the same, and would seem to be that of Hiéronyme Lallemant, who also celebrated marriages in Notre-Dame de Québec.
posted by Danielle Liard
reading the article from the société généalogique de Lévis, the arguments to me appear fallacious. The marriage is done in the house of Robert Giffard, seigneur of Beauport. The chapelle au collège de Beaupré de Jésus appears out of context. It is not true that it was unusual for marriages to be celebrated outside church premises, there are a number of them celebrated in Robert Giffard's home in this time period. There was not yet a chapel in Beauport, that came later. I have not found Denys Delage's assertion that native origin was hidden in records, not in this time period. Clergy were actually happy to have natives converted. The whole article is filled with people's conclusions without evidence.
posted by Danielle Liard
filles à marier are women who came here before the filles du roi, mostly on their own, either on a contract of work or as passengers without contract, as long as both parents did not come with them it works. Not quite as tightly studied as the filles du roi. Will have to look further into all the other points.
posted by Danielle Liard
I was looking at reference #3 in Marie's profile which shows that she and Toussaint Giroux (my 8th great-grandparents) were married in Sieur Giffard's house and not at l'Église Notre-Dame de Québec, as stated in the biography. Further, I think it is a stretch to call her a fille a marier. Most of the references show her as being of unknown origin. Genealogie Quebec is an exception but where is the source document? Nor does she appear in reference #9, a recently revised (2017) list of Percheron emigrants. I also came across this article a few years ago. I realize it does not offer conclusive proof of her origin (a recurring theme) but it is certainly food for thought:

http://www.genealogie.org/club/sglevis/publications/SGLevisV8N2R0.pdf - go to page 7.

posted by André Courcelles
Godard-320 and Godare-1 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate, to merge into Godare-1 (protected and researched profile).
Have removed the parents that were listed for her as they are the parents of Jeanne Godard, who did not come from the same area at all. No source names Marie's parents, she is everywhere listed as of unknown origin. Her parents are not named on her marriage record. Her origin is also not known, although since she married a man from that area and also worked for a man from that area, it is to a certain extent logical that she was from Perche province of France.
posted by Danielle Liard