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John Cook Gooda (abt. 1818 - 1905)

John Cook [uncertain] Gooda aka Goodd
Born about in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England, United Kingdommap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 11 Mar 1843 (to about Nov 1849) in Sydney, New South Wales, Australiamap
Husband of — married 1855 in Wollombi, New South Wales, Australiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 87 in Warialda, New South Wales, Australiamap
Profile last modified | Created 3 Apr 2015
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Biography

John Gooda was born in 1818 in Yarmouth, Norfolk.

John married Amelia Matilda Manser (1825 - ~1849) on March 11, 1843 in Scots Presbyterian Church, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.[1] They had four children. Amelia passed away at the young age of 24 on 20 Nov 1849.

  1. Eliza (Gooda) Bartier (abt.1843-1888)
  2. Maria (Gooda) Starr (1845-1910)
  3. John Gooda (1847-1938)
  4. Henry Gooda (1849-1849)

Their son was John Gooda (1847 - 1938) and according to his obituary in 1938 his father:[2]

… resided in the Bathurst district for another two years, then made tracks north, finally settling on a small area of land in the Warialda district. The journey from Bathurst to Warialda was made on horseback and Mr. Gooda senr. carried his son in the saddle with him. The deceased was then only three years old. The gold fever caused Mr. Gooda senr. to move off once more, and like many others he set out for the Braidwood fields, again taking his son on his back for a great part of the journey. After tramping for many weary miles they were stopped by a man with a gun, who demanded money. Mr. Gooda. snr. stated that he had no money and after being .searched was allowed to go on his way. It is believed that the man was the notorious bushranger Jack Donoghue who roamed about the gold diggings in those days [this is highly unlikely given that John Donohoe died in 1830]. He earned much more in a day with a gun than any honest man did with the pick and shovel. The bushrangers of those days were not Socialists— not sharing the plunder, but taking the lot. It has been said that many of the miners "showed oft" by lighting their pipes with pound notes and the late Mr. Gooda saw this done on numerous occasions.
After some time at Braidwood. where they were only treated moderately, Mr. Gooda snr. and his son set off for new fields, ending up at Yass where there was supposed to be something extra special. En route there was a 40 mile stretch of country to be traversed without a waterhole. The two tramps carried their water with them. On a very dryand particularly hot day they came across a man lying under a tree. They .spoke to him. bul he was speechless and pointed to his mouth, where upon he was handed a billycan of water. He drank with relish but before uttering a word fell back dead. They then noticed that he was terribly gashed about the throat-evidently the poor unfortunate had endeavoured to put an end to his life in his delirium. That big drink of water killed him. according to Mr. Gooda. for it was evident that he had noi lasted food or water for several days. When they reached civilisation they reported the matter to the police and Mr. Gooda. snr,. accompanied a policeman to the dead man. The arm of the law. after viewing the injuries to the dead man's throat arrested deceased's father, and he remained in the lock-up for three weeks, until his story was believed.
During this time young John was looked after by the lock-up keeper's wife. Yass did not prove a good prospect for either father or son and they again set tracks for the north arriving at Walcha.

In 1855 John married Sarah McCann/McKenna at Wollombi.[3] John and Sarah had a further 11 children.

  1. Sarah Anne (Gooda) Coward (1856-1947)
  2. Thomas Gooda Sr (1858-1948)
  3. Henry Gooda (1860-1940)
  4. Matilda (Gooda) Lucas (1862-1956)
  5. Catherine (Gooda) Wallis (1865-1947)
  6. Jane M (Gooda) Rose (1867-1950)
  7. William Gooda (1869-1869)
  8. Mary Jane Gooda (1870-1870)
  9. William John Gooda (1872-1952)
  10. Johanna (Gooda) Rose (1877-1965)
  11. Susan (Gooda) Kite (1879-1973)

John died in 1905 in Warialda, New South Wales aged ~87.[4]

Research Notes

Birth year is estimated from notation of age at 86 years in death register entry.


What appears to be a very thoroughly researched family tree curated by Graham Marle on Ancestry.com[5] has a transcription of the death certificate citing the two marriages:[6]

Father: - GOODA
Father's Occupation: NOT KNOWN
Mother - Maiden Name: NOT KNOWN
Informant: JOE (?) WALLIS, SON IN LAW, WARIALDA; REGISTERED 4 FEB 1905, WARIALDA
When Buried: 4 FEB 1905
Where: CHURCH OF ENGLAND CEMETERY, -
Undertaker: PETER GILMOUR
Minister: H.M.R. RUPP
Religion: CHURCH OF ENGLAND
Witnesses: R.G. GILMOUR, W. BARLING
Where born: YARMOUTH, ENGLAND
Time in Colony//State: 63YRS IN NSW
Place Married: NOT KNOWN; WOLLOMBI, NSW
Age at Marriage: 23; 36
Spouse: MATILDA MANSER; SUSAN MCCAN
Children of Marriage:
1ST MARRIAGE:
  1. MARIA 60 (Maria Gooda (1845-))
  2. JOHN 58 (John Gooda (1847-1938))
  3. 1 MALE (Henry Gooda (1849-))
  4. 1 FEMALE (Eliza (Gooda) Bartier (abt.1843-1888))
2ND MARRIAGE:
  1. SARAH A. 49 (Sarah A Gooda (1856-))
  2. THOMAS 47 (Thomas Gooda (1858-))
  3. HENRY 45 (Henry Gooda (1860-1940))
  4. MATILDA 42 (Matilda (Gooda) Lucas (1862-1956))
  5. CATHERINE 40 (Catherine (Gooda) Wallis (1865-1947))
  6. JAMES 38
  7. WILLIAM 34 (William John Gooda (1872-))
  8. JOHANNA 28 (Johanna Gooda (1877-))
  9. SUSAN 25 (Susan Gooda (1879-))
  10. 1 MALE DECEASED

However, the obituary of Henry Gooda (1860-1940) causes some pause. Its assertion that Henry came to Warialda at the age of 14 (that is, around 1874) would seem to refer to the Gooda's coming back to Warialda from Wee Waa after the birth of Johanna and not referring to him being there as a youngster when Catherine was born in 1865.


The quoted age at marriage to Matilda (23) suggests birth in 1820.

The quoted age at 'marriage' to Susan (Sarah?) (36) suggests that they came together around 1856. That is when daughter Sarah's birth was registered at Wollombi.


Identyifying John as the son of John and Eliza Cook would explain the middle name. Assuming the records relate to the Australian person represented by this profile the Engliash birth and Baptism records contain the middle name "Cook" which is not reflected in any of the Australian records.[7]


There is an amazing letter written in 1847 from John Gooda to his son in Australia transcribed on Ancestry.com [8] It does not assist with proving the identity between the two profiles.

Sources

  1. NSW BDM marriage 1766/1843 V18431766 76 at ‘JA’ (Scots Presbyterian Church, Sydney)
  2. 1938 'MR. JOHN GOODA.', The Inverell Times (NSW : 1899 - 1907, 1909 - 1954), 13 April, p. 4. , viewed 16 Oct 2021, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article185834789
  3. NSW BDM marriage reg. no. 398/1855 V1855398 43B, of GOODD, JOHN, and MC KENNA, SARAH, registered at 'MR' [Church of England: Oakville; Whittingham; Wollombi]
  4. NSW BDM death 3295/1905
  5. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/30675422/person/200125859287/facts
  6. https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/30675422/person/200125859287/media/fb5764f0-e483-4c26-ba42-9b9b82bbab07?_phsrc=DcV3104&_phstart=successSource
  7. For example:
    Name: John Cook Gooda
    Gender: Male
    Record Type: Baptism
    Baptism Date: 17 May 1821
    Baptism Place: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
    Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
    Father: Jno Gooda
    Mother: Eliza Gooda
    Parish as it Appears: Great Yarmouth. in Norfolk, England, Transcripts of Church of England Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers, 1600-1935 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2018.
  8. https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/30675422/person/200125859287/media/89819fdd-786a-42d8-8413-b30f30b8e469?_phsrc=DcV3091&_phstart=successSource.
  • NSW BDM Death GOODA JOHN 3295/1905 86 YRS WARIALDA. District WARIALDA
  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/239276280/john-cook-gooda : accessed 15 May 2022), memorial page for John Cook Gooda (1819–3 Feb 1905), Find a Grave Memorial ID 239276280, citing Warialda General Cemetery, Warialda, Gwydir Shire, New South Wales, Australia ; Maintained by TLH (contributor 50020911)

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Gooda-5 and Gooda-21 appear to represent the same person because: The sourced identification of the two marriages of John Gooda on his death certificate recorded in Ancestry by Graham Marle gives me confidence to merger these.

Pat

posted on Gooda-21 (merged) by Pat McCallum
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posted on Gooda-21 (merged) by Peter Jones
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Hi Peter.

I don't know as a fact but it certainly looks like it.

I'll review both and muse over it a bit and consider a merge with notes.

Pat

posted on Gooda-21 (merged) by Pat McCallum
OK

I was being a bit cautious because I had a recent example of close alignment like this, timeframes, occuptations, two marriages. first and second names with NSW limitation of missing surnames etc and it turned out to be wrong. So I am still hesitant on the lack of direct sourcing for the common father to the half siblings. We don't have any of the McCann/Gooda children giving details on the father and I don't have any marriage certificate or the like for Catherine or any of the other McCann/Gooda children.

Graham Marle's Ancestry profile has a transcription of the death certificate which includes both spouses. https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/30675422/person/200125859287/media/fb5764f0-e483-4c26-ba42-9b9b82bbab07?_phsrc=DcV3104&_phstart=successSource

By the way Graham has Maria Gooda death as STARR, MARIA 15596/1910 which looks possible.

posted on Gooda-21 (merged) by Pat McCallum