Remember Gott (abt. 1626)

Born about 1626 in England

Biography

Disputed Existence

Citing no references or evidence, Edith G Mills claims that Remember, b. c 1626, was a daughter of Charles and "Thankful Gift" Palmer.^[1] The article as it's name suggests is a Research in Progress. The first part is from "The Gott Family from 1628." compiled by Wellington Pool the Wenham Town Clerk. This section only mentions the three children baptized in Wenham. The last section which is a standard genealogical summary, was not done by the same person and doesn't say where it's from.

Anderson's Great Migration article on Charles mentions no such daughter.^[2] She was not named in Charles' 1668 will. There are no known records which pertain to her.

Disputed Spouse

John Fiske died intestate in 1683. His widow, Remember Fisk, presented an inventory, and distribution was made to wife Remember and children, John, Samuel, Noah, Waite, Elizabeth and Remember. Charles Gott, age 45, testified, at the time, that he had heard Ens. John Fiske tell Lt. Whipple, father of his future daughter in law, that he would give certain land to his son Samuel^[3] On this slight piece of evidence an assumption that Remember Fiske was the sister of Charles Gott was built. Reality is that no such relationship is implied by this testimony, only that Gott was acquainted with Whipple or Fiske, which they would have been, living in a small community. In addition, Remember and John Fiske didn't name any children after the alleged Gott father, also named Charles.

Was Remember (____) Fiske Remember Gott?

Anderson's Great Migration 1634-1635, G-H, William Goodhue article (Widow of John Fiske married William Goodhue), does not acknowledge Remember Gott or that she was wife of William^[4]

Remember ____

There is a marriage date 10 Dec 1651 in some sources. Some of these just mention the date, but not a surname. This is odd. It might indicate some kind of testimony by a family member to that date. Where did it come from? Not in the Wenham Vital Records. Also looked in Essex Quarterly Court records, Massachusetts Bay Colony Records. Search at Ancestry turned up indexes and Torrey, Search at American Ancestors turned up Torrey. A different John Fiske m. 11 Dec 1651 Sary Wyth (Sarah Wyeth) in Watertown. Could this be where the date came from?

Analysis of Torrey's New England Marriages Entry:

"FISK, John (-1683) & Remember [GOTT] (-1702), dau Charles, m/2 William GOODHUE 1689?; 10 Dec 1651; Ipswich {Reg. 31:221; EIHC 4:21; Abbott 1:65; Fiske (1896) 61, 63; Booth (1910) 188; Wenham Ch. Rec. 77; Essex Ant. 12:101; Ackley-Bosworth 249} " -- The brackets [ ] around the surname GOTT indicate that Torrey "found a reliable source that identified the bride's maiden name with a good deal of confidence,"^[5] but note that if he was positive it was correct he would not have put the brackets around the name.

Reg. 31:221 (1877);

Query, who was Remember _____, wife of John Fisk?

EIHC 4:21; Essex Institute Historical Collections, vol. 1+ (Salem, Mass., 1859+) Abstracts from Wills, Inventories, &c., on File in the Office of Clerk of Courts, Salem, Mass.

Re: John Fiske 9th mo 1683. Inventory returned by relict and administratrix Remember Fiske. A Deposition by Charles Gott aged about 45 saying that he heard Ensign J Fiske .... [ p. 21]

This is the only known piece of evidence that has led to Charles Gott being identified as the brother of the wife of John Fiske. It is an extremely flimsy piece of evidence

Abbott 1:65; (1906) Abbott, Lemuel Abijah, Descendants of George Abbott of Rowley, Mass. of His Joint Descendants with George Abbott, Sr., of Andover, Mass.; of the Descendants of Daniel Abbott of Providence, R.I., 2 vols. (n.p.: privately printed, 1906)

Abbott m. Remember Fiske, dau. of Hon. John and Remember of Wenham Mass.

Fiske (1896) 61, 63; Pierce, Frederick Clifton, Fiske and Fisk Family (Chicago: privately printed, 1896)

m. 10 Dec 1651 Remember _______

Wenham Ch. Rec. 77; Trask, William Blake, Records of the Congregational Church in Wenham, Mass. from Original Book Presented to This Society, microfilm (Cambridge, Mass.: General Microfilm, 1980) Also in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register 61:330

A list of Church members John Fiske #9, Remember Fiske #10, Samuel Fiske #11 (probably circa 1674)

Essex Ant. 12:101; nothing 12: 191 no mention of Gott

Booth (1910) 188; Booth, Charles Edwin, One Branch of the Booth Family, Showing the Lines of Connection with One Hundred Massachusetts Bay Colonists (New York: privately printed, 1910)

John Fiske b. England d. 1683 m. Remember 10 Dec 1651. She m. 2nd Dea. William Goodhue 1689 (his 4th wife)

? If there is a marriage date why is there not a surname listed.

Ackley-Bosworth 249. Parke, Nathan Grier, The Ancestry of Lorenzo Ackley and His Wife Emma Arabella Bosworth (Woodstock, Vt., 1960)

Hannah Baldwin m. Dr. John Fiske b. 1654, Milford, Connecticut, son of John and Remember (Gott) Fiske.

Generally works by Jacobus are fairly reliable, but he did not write this or research it. He edited it.

Where did Ackley-Bosworth get the information? Consultation of the sources listed in Ackley-Bosworth. Some are not available online, but deal with New Haven and would not be relavant to the parents of Dr. John Fiske. [https://archive.org/stream/baldwingenealogy00bald#page/298/mode/2up/ Baldwin Genealogy p. 299 states Hannah Baldwin b 1663 m. Dr. John Fiske, son of John, no wife named.

Conclusion: I think that given the available evidence, we have to agree with Anderson's list of only three children, and that the wife of John Fiske and William Gott was Remember _Unknown_.

Sources

1. ↑ Mills, Edith G. "Research in Progress: The Gott Family." The Essex Genealogist 3:2 (1983) Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
2. ↑ Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society,1995. pp 799-801 Link AmericanAncestors ($) published 1990s
3. ↑ Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Vol IX p. 95, pp 131, 132
4. ↑ (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009.) Originally published as: The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume III, G-H, by Robert Charles Anderson. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2003. https://www.americanancestors.org/DB116/i/7118/113/235151155
5. ↑ Introduction to Torrey p. x

? Remember Fiske Goodhue Birth: unknown Death: 16 Feb 1701 Ipswich, Essex County, Massachusetts, USA Burial: Unknown

Memorial #: 37407069 Bio: William Goodhue married (4) by 1691, Remember (____) Fiske, widow of John Fiske. She died at Ipswich, 16 Feb 1701/2. No children of this marriage.Source: Anderson's Great Migration Study Project Family Members Spouse William Goodhue 1612-1694 Created by: Linda Mac (47062703) Added: 23 May 2009 URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/37407069/remember-fiske_goodhue Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 10 April 2019), memorial page for Remember Fiske Goodhue (unknown–16 Feb 1701), Find A Grave Memorial no. 37407069, ; Maintained by Linda Mac (contributor 47062703) Unknown.