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Anne (Goulding) Van Doorn (1682 - abt. 1767)

Anne Van Doorn formerly Goulding aka Holmes
Born in Gravesend, Kings, New York Colonymap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married about 1697 (to before 1704) [location unknown]
Wife of — married 16 Oct 1704 in New Yorkmap
Wife of — married before 1709 in Middletown, Monmouth, New Jerseymap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 85 in Monmouth County, New Jerseymap
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Biography

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Anne (Goulding) Van Doorn was a New Netherland settler.
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Ann was born about 1682 in Gravesend, Kings, New York.[1] She passed away 19 Sep 1767 (age 84–85) in Monmouth County, New Jersey. She was buried at the Golden Family Cemetery, Middletown, Monmouth County, New Jersey.[2]

Baptism

Name: Anetje Golder

Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1682
Baptism Place: Flatbush, Kings, New York, USA
Father: Joseph Golder
Mother: Neltje Claas
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1682
Witnesses: Jan Hanz & Maritie Frederiksen his wife[3]

Research Notes

Listed as a child of William Goulding in "This Old Monmouth of Ours" [actually granddaughter]; Anne, who married, first, Joseph Holmes, and, secondly, after 1704, Peter Perrine [probably should be Cornelius Van Dorn instead of Peter Perrine]; and, probably, other children.[4]

H.D. Perrine, in his 1910 book, identifies Anne [wife of Peter Perrine] as the daughter of Samuel Holmes.[5] But that Anne Holmes was deceased by 1702.

From "The Van Doorn Family in Holland and America 1088 - 1908" by A. Van Doren Honeyman: Anneke, or Anke, Golder is believed to have been of English descent. She was also given as a Golding (Ann Golding), the daughter of Joseph Golding of Gravesend, Long Island, who is on record as residing in that town in 1764. The widow of Cornelius Doorn lived until Sept. 19, 1767, when she died, aged "about 86 years". Her tombstone is in the "Golden Burying-ground" her name thereon being spelled "Doern," if the name has been correctly read.

I find it doubtful that this Anne was the wife of Peter Perrine, as much as I'd like to link the Golders and Perrines. Joseph Holmes died between 1702 and 1704, leaving Anne with 5 children. By 1709 she married Cornelius Van Doorn and they had 9 children together between 1710 and 1728, before he died in 1755. (I will begin adding them now.) I don't see how Peter Perrine could fit into this picture and have 5 children with her (between 1704 and 1709?), especially since he lived until 1740 or 1741. Maybe he DID marry Anne Holmes. 1 May 2021 Amy Golder-Cooper

Sources

  1. The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record (quarterly-1873) - Extracts; Publication Place: New York; Publisher: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society; Page Number: 39
  2. www.findagrave.com/memorial/96795968/ann-doern
  3. U.S., Dutch Reformed Church Records in Selected States, 1639-1989. Source Citation: Holland Society of New York; New York, New York; Brooklyn and Flatbush NY, Book 72. Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S., Dutch Reformed Church Records in Selected States, 1639-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: Dutch Reformed Church Records from New York and New Jersey. Holland Society of New York, New York, New York. Dutch Reformed Church Records from New Jersey. The Archives of the Reformed Church in America, New Brunswick, New Jersey.
  4. "THIS OLD MONMOUTH OF OURS." By William Horner, Originally published by Moreau Brothers of Freehold, NJ 1932, Reprinted in 1974.
  5. Daniel Perrin, "The Huguenot," and his descendants in America, of the surnames, Perrine, Perine, and Prine, 1665-1910, Perrine, Howland Delano, Publication: South Orange, N.J., publisher unknown,1910, pg. 36.

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Holmes-14560 and Goulding-313 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth date, share a husband, Holmes was the married name and not LNAB, creating this confusion.
In response to your Research Notes: I'm inclined to think that Ann Golder wife of Cornelius Van Doorn is *not* the Ann, wife of Joseph Holmes. While there is primary evidence that Cornelius Van Doorn married an Ann Golder, I don't know if there's anything that suggests who that Ann's parents are? Additionally I think Peter Perrine married the widow of Joseph Holmes named Anne. There is nothing suggesting that her name is Goulding / Goulder accept the book "This Old Monmouth of Ours" but I can find no primary evidence. So far the only primary evidence I've found suggests that Anne somehow inherited land from a relative (perhaps parent or grandparent) in Gravesend by 1695/6 because her husband Joseph Holmes deeded land to his uncle "excepting the land belonging to his wife by inheritance".
Joseph Goulding/Golden was a land owner at Gravesend, so his being her father is at least still in the realm of possibilities.
FYI: this is the baptism of Ann Goulding, daughter of Joseph Golding. It would make sense that this Ann married Cornelius van Doorn... given her documented age of 86 years in 1767 and the name Golder in the baptismal records of her children with Cornelius van Doorn. I'm still rather inclined to think the Anne who married Joseph Holmes and the Peter Perrine is someone different entirely.

https://archive.org/details/newyorkgenealog187273gree/page/n513/mode/2up?view=theater (bottom of page)

posted by Patrick (Hoffmann) Murphy
edited by Patrick (Hoffmann) Murphy
Goulding-569 and Goulding-313 appear to represent the same person because: Birth and death dates are only estimated, but share a husband. Research needed, but current surname probably needs to be changed to Van Doorn

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