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Unknown daughter Graham may have been born after 1267[1] (see research notes 1) and was the alleged daughter of Sir Patrick Graham of Kincardine and Dundaff and Annabella (see John M Sutherland-Fisher research notes 2), the likely daughter of Robert, Earl of Strathearn.[2] From this marriage, Unknown daughter, as well as three sons were born: Patrick, David, and John,[2] confirmed in a 1272 charter that referenced the donation of the village of Aleuth church to Cambuskenneth priory, subscribed by Lord Patrick Graham [and] John, his son.[3] No primary sources have been located to affirm the parentage of Patrick or Unknown daughter.
Unknown daughter was married to Sir Malcolm Drummond, 9th Thane of Lennox, by whom she had a son Malcolm Drummond[4] and, according to Balfour Paul, a granddaughter, Margaret Drummond, who was secondly married in 1363 to David II, king of Scotland. Given that David II divorced Margaret Drummond on 20 March 1370 for not producing issue, she may still have been of child-bearing age at this time and thus likely in her 20s or 30s at the time of her second marriage.[2][5][6] This would place her date of birth around 1330 to 1340. Given that Unknown daughter's brother David fought in the battle of Dunbar in 1296,[7] even if only 16 years old at this time, his date of birth would have been 1280.
Unknown daughter's date of death is unknown, as is the location of her burial. No sources have been located from which one could even surmise an estimated date of death.
1. Unknown daughter Graham's d.o.b based upon her brother David's estimated birthdate:
While David's date of birth is uncertain, it can be estimated based upon his military service in the Battle of Dunbar (1296),[7] where according to The Society for Medieval Military History, boys as young as 16 occasionally served in battle, although the forensic evidence indicates that the average age of medieval soldiers was 29.2 years.[1]With this range in mind, it suggests that David may have been born between the years 1267 and 1280, with his death occurring between the ages of 50 and 63. It is unlikely that he would have been born much earlier than 1267, as at the Battle of Dunbar, David would have been by this time 29, which may have placed his father around age 54, probably nearing the end of his fighting days. It is also improbable that David, if born before 1280, would have been of age to engage in the Battle of Dunbar. No sources have been located to corroborate David's approximated dates-of-birth range.
2. POMS vs Douglas accuracy: From John M Sutherland-Fisher Scottish Clans Protocol Team Leader: There seems to be a conflict among a number of authors as to the identity of leading members of the Graham family from the reign of Alexander II through to that of Robert the Bruce. Some of the marriages etc. detailed in the People of Mediaeval Scotland simply defy logic, so I have taken the family and listed it generation by generation as detailed by Sir Robert Douglas in his Peerage of Scotland published in 1764. Sir Robert Douglas only mentions Sir Patrick Graham having 2 sons David and John and makes no mention of any daughters. Most gedcoms do not name the wife of Sir Malcolm of Drummond.
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When I looked up the castle "Dundaff Castle" in Wikipedia, it gave me the name of Sir John de Graham as being born there. I went to his link and came across the issues. Followed John, Earl of Menteith. I found a daughter by Margaret Graham, Countess. She had 4 marriages and one is listed as "Sir Malcolm Drummond", but no link. However, in the text is shows the name as Sir John Drummond of Concraig. Is Malcolm Drummond (husband) the same as Sir John? Is this Margaret the same as this person here?