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Elizabeth (Gray) Kempe (1532 - 1564)

Elizabeth Kempe formerly Gray aka Grey
Born in Merton, Norfolk, Englandmap
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Daughter of and
Sister of , , , , , and
Wife of — married after 1553 [location unknown]
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Mother of , , , and
Died at about age 32 [location unknown]
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Research notes

According to Hitchin-Kempe, a Kempe genealogist, Robert Kempe's second wife was Elizabeth, daughter of Edmund Grey of Merton, who's sister Margaret had already married Edward Kempe, brother to Robert.[1] This appears to be the standard version of the pedigree found in visitation pedigrees etc. which would have been made by close relatives only a few generations away.[2]

The Norfolk antiquarian Blomefield disagrees with Hitchin-Kemp.[3] So did Crabbe (1877). [4] And so did Edward Cave.[5] According to the second set of authors, Elizabeth's father was Thomas de Grey, son of Edmund. It was only Mary, the wife of Robert Kemp's brother, who was a daughter of Edmund de Grey.

In one version Elizabeth and Mary and both sisters (by blood) and sisters-in-law. In the other version they are aunt and niece (by blood), and sisters-in-law.

The relatively detailed wills of Thomas, Edmund, and Edmund's father Thomas, seem indeed to leave no room for a daughter of Edmund named Elizabeth.

Notes

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  • Change surname at birth to "Grey" per the Visitatations at Norfolk pg 176; 1563; 1589; and 1613 in which the 2nd wife of Robert Kemp of Gissing, son and heir to Bartholomew Kempe is shown as Elizabeth dau. of Edmund Grey of Martyn [Merton] Norfolk

Sources

  1. ↑ https://archive.org/stream/generalhistoryof00kemp#page/n115/mode/2up/search/grey
  2. ↑ https://archive.org/stream/visitacionievisi32ryew#page/138/mode/2up Also see the one reproduced in Muskett's Suffolk Manorial Families.
  3. ↑ Francis Blomefield, 'Hundred of Diss: Gissing', in An Essay Towards A Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 1 (London, 1805), pp. 162-181. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol1/pp162-181 [accessed 7 October 2023].
  4. ↑ https://archive.org/stream/norfolkantiquar00unkngoog#page/n54/mode/2up/search/kemp
  5. ↑ Gentleman's Magazine https://books.google.be/books?id=Z_hfAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA116


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Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Muskett in Suffolk Manorial Families has a detailed Kempe section, and he cites a 1612 pedigree made presumably only a few generations later by the family (for the 1612 visitation), which says Edmund was the father (agrees with Hitchin Kemp).
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Visitation that agrees with Hitchin Kemp: https://archive.org/stream/visitacionievisi32ryew#page/138/mode/2up
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Blomefield agrees with Crabbe: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol1/pp162-181
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Agrees with Crabbe but maybe derived from same source? https://books.google.be/books?id=Z_hfAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA115
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Note: as explained in text Crabbe gives a different father than other sources. But he is maybe the best source for the Greys. Will try to find confirming documentation.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Grey would be a better LNAB. Gray seems rarely used for this family. (Only the profile manager can change it.)
posted by Andrew Lancaster

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